The Joker   10 #1105 Posted July 28, 2016 Classic. Read my views on people who use all these products - KNOWING they are tax-dodging - then complain that they don't pay up.  You know what these people are called Joker? The MAJORITY.  That's one of the reason that I think the majority of people are morons   Ooh, a challenge!  I don't shop at Boots.  Starbucks can go to hell (or wherever their overseas tax haven is).  Google can attempt to monetize me all they like; I pay nowt for their services and I suspect attempting to do so will be like getting blood out of the proverbial. Besides, Bing's search engine is. . . not even worth describing  Amazon, I only use when desperate, on average less than once a year.  And Vodafone. . . well, you got me there ash. I only get a Voda and O2 signal where i live, and since I don't appreciate O2 putting up their prices every year as part of the RPI it has to be Voda. At least they pass on their savings to me, the consumer  Now, don't you have some drunken office workers to ferry home? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
*_ash_*   88 #1106 Posted July 28, 2016 Ooh, a challenge!   Only a challenge if you complain, which - importantly - is what I said  There is more information available today than at any point in the entire history of the universe, and it's at everyone's finger tips.  So when people complain about companies, and complain about tax avoidance, and complain about austerity, and spend most of their lives on a phone on social media where it is IMPOSSIBLE to avoid 'trends' about dodgy company finances - they then go into a shop or go online and renew their Vodaphones 'because it's the best deal' , then they deserve austerity and cuts in finances. Or at least admit they are hypocrites.   Ooh, a challenge!  I don't shop at Boots.  Starbucks can go to hell (or wherever their overseas tax haven is).  Google can attempt to monetize me all they like; I pay nowt for their services and I suspect attempting to do so will be like getting blood out of the proverbial. Besides, Bing's search engine is. . . not even worth describing  Amazon, I only use when desperate, on average less than once a year.  And Vodafone. . . well, you got me there ash. I only get a Voda and O2 signal where i live, and since I don't appreciate O2 putting up their prices every year as part of the RPI it has to be Voda. At least they pass on their savings to me, the consumer  Now, don't you have some drunken office workers to ferry home?  You can spend you money where you like, like we all can. I'm not a hypocrite, I use google though I try and give it as little info as possible, and I use Amazon a lot, because I like it. I don't have to go into town and be hassled in the street, then go to shops and get hassled by staff, and then find out they haven't got what I want. But then again, I don't complain about austerity. I blame the people for it, and who they voted for when they kept voting Labour in who rather than dealing with these companies, gave them an even easier ride, then complain when it cocks up and Torys can't fix it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
the_bloke   17 #1107 Posted July 28, 2016 Classic. Read my views on people who use all these products - KNOWING they are tax-dodging - then complain that they don't pay up.  You know what these people are called Joker? The MAJORITY.  That's one of the reason that I think the majority of people are morons  It's rather off topic, but I remember the Hallam student union having posters in the window advertising meetings and gatherings to protest against big tax dodging corporations. Next to the window, painted on the wall in the cafe is the 'Starbucks served here' slogan. The irony.  ---------- Post added 29-07-2016 at 00:21 ----------  Ooh, a challenge!  I don't shop at Boots.  Starbucks can go to hell (or wherever their overseas tax haven is).  Google can attempt to monetize me all they like; I pay nowt for their services and I suspect attempting to do so will be like getting blood out of the proverbial. Besides, Bing's search engine is. . . not even worth describing  Amazon, I only use when desperate, on average less than once a year.  And Vodafone. . . well, you got me there ash. I only get a Voda and O2 signal where i live, and since I don't appreciate O2 putting up their prices every year as part of the RPI it has to be Voda. At least they pass on their savings to me, the consumer  Now, don't you have some drunken office workers to ferry home?  You buy Dell products though, as stated previously.  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/08/tech_firms_avoiding_corp_tax/  Will you now stop? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #1108 Posted July 28, 2016 You buy Dell products though, as stated previously. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/08/tech_firms_avoiding_corp_tax/  Will you now stop?  Thanks to the 10% price hike, it's highly unlikely I will ever purchase a Dell product ever again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Phanerothyme   12 #1109 Posted July 29, 2016 It's rather off topic, but I remember the Hallam student union having posters in the window advertising meetings and gatherings to protest against big tax dodging corporations. Next to the window, painted on the wall in the cafe is the 'Starbucks served here' slogan. The irony.  Ah, The Mensch Blunder. That was a good episode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
unbeliever   10 #1110 Posted July 29, 2016 What's the alternative? A Tory government that collects money from working class people like me, and middle class public sector workers like you, and uses it to offset the £billions that Vodafone, Boots, Google, Amazon and Starbucks dodge in taxes?  Lower taxes for everybody and more efficient and effective public services. The direct tax on the low earners has gone down an awful lot more as a percentage than that on high earners since 2010. Allowing people to keep and spend their own money shows respect and is empowering. Spending it for them or taxing it and then giving it back is wasteful, corrupting and inefficient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3   10 #1111 Posted July 29, 2016 Lower taxes for everybody and more efficient and effective public services. The direct tax on the low earners has gone down an awful lot more as a percentage than that on high earners since 2010. Allowing people to keep and spend their own money shows respect and is empowering. Spending it for them or taxing it and then giving it back is wasteful, corrupting and inefficient.  This is nonsense. I see you've specifically used direct tax to make your argument and I guess that's because you know that the overall tax burden for lower income people is increasing not falling.  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-graph-that-shows-how-the-poor-are-paying-more-than-the-rich-in-tax-10353982.html  What Osborne have away in tax allowances he took back in other ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jukes   10 #1112 Posted July 29, 2016 Banjodeano, please reply to this.  It doesn't appear that you think that I am due any respect despite being a fully paid up member for 12 years, stood in nearly as many elections, delivered tens of thousands of leaflets and knocked on thousands of doors.  Please say what you have done for the party so that we know why your opinion is due more respect than mine.  Jukes x  Jukes x Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
banjodeano   31 #1113 Posted July 29, 2016 Banjodeano, please reply to this.   Jukes x I thought I had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Graham   10 #1114 Posted July 29, 2016 You're welcome  Caring & sharing is what Socialism is all about.  You should try it.  Do you mean like the caring and sharing that was going on in Rotherham? Or do you mean the caring and sharing that was going on at Mid Staffs? If so, I think I'll pass. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jukes   10 #1115 Posted July 29, 2016 I thought I had.  I must have missed it so please tell us again why your opinion is due more respect than mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
banjodeano   31 #1116 Posted July 29, 2016 I must have missed it so please tell us again why your opinion is due more respect than mine.  Please see post 1057.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...