Rasputin, Archduke Ferdinand, ww1, strange coincidence

And Bochum.

No need for that kind of language.

Nothing like try to talk yourself into a war is there?

I thought that Rasputin was murdered December 1916?

sorry it should have been attempted murder.

So another conspiracy that is easily disproved by a very basic grasp of the facts. Doesn't anyone check these things out before they post such rubbish?

quote// 6/29/1914, the day after the assassination of the Austrian Archduke, Rasputin was stabbed and severely injured by a woman named Khionia Guseva, who was a disciple of the monk Iliodor. Iliodor, whose true given name was Sergei Michailovich Trufanov, was a member of the Black Hundreds, an ultra-nationalist society that wanted, not increasing liberalization, but a return to more autocratic rule. The entire organization was rabidly anti-Semitic. There seems little doubt that Iliodor was behind the attack on Rasputin, although there is no hard proof that the stabbing was ordered by the leaders of the Black Hundreds. Yet this strange cult has much in common with other secret or semi-secret societies that have played such a sinister role in human history. Whatever the case, while Rasputin was hospitalized, the Czar made the fatal error of entering the war, setting the stage for his own downfall.

sorry it should have been attempted murder.

 

 

 

quote// 6/29/1914, the day after the assassination of the Austrian Archduke, Rasputin was stabbed and severely injured by a woman named Khionia Guseva, who was a disciple of the monk Iliodor. Iliodor, whose true given name was Sergei Michailovich Trufanov, was a member of the Black Hundreds, an ultra-nationalist society that wanted, not increasing liberalization, but a return to more autocratic rule. The entire organization was rabidly anti-Semitic. There seems little doubt that Iliodor was behind the attack on Rasputin, although there is no hard proof that the stabbing was ordered by the leaders of the Black Hundreds. Yet this strange cult has much in common with other secret or semi-secret societies that have played such a sinister role in human history. Whatever the case, while Rasputin was hospitalized, the Czar made the fatal error of entering the war, setting the stage for his own downfall.

Which completely undermines your oh so spooky coincidence in your op, which was wrong.

Big deal someone gets shot one day and someone else gets attacked thwe following day....oooh spooky.

Hang your head in shame op.

Which completely undermines your oh so spooky coincidence in your op, which was wrong.

Big deal someone gets shot one day and someone else gets attacked thwe following day....oooh spooky.

 

are you one of the blokes I upset on the gay marraige thread?

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quote/On Sunday 28th June 1914, the Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the throne of the Austro-Hungarian Empire was assassinated. This provoked the Emperor to mobilise against Serbia and Russia came in on the Serbian side. Bingo! WW1.

At exactly the same moment that Princip was killing the Archduke, Rasputin was stabbed as he came out of church in his home town in Siberia. He was totally opposed to any war and, had he been in Saint Petersburg, could have prevented Russian mobilisation. By the time he had recovered, it was too late.

quote/The author, Colin Wilson, says in his book Rasputin:

“There are fifty degrees of longitude between Sarajevo and Pokrovskoe, which means that eleven o’clock in Sarajevo it is about 2.15 in Pokrovskoe. It is a strange coincidence that two assassins struck at almost exactly the same moment, a coincidence that makes one inclined to doubt the blindness of history. Ferdinand’s death made war probable, Rasputin’s injury made it certain, for he was the only man in Russia capable of averting it.”

 

 

 

On Sunday 28th June 1914, the Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the throne of the Austro-Hungarian Empire was assassinated. This provoked the Emperor to mobilise against Serbia and Russia came in on the Serbian side. Bingo! WW1.

 

At exactly the same moment that Princip was killing the Archduke, Rasputin was stabbed as he came out of church in his home town in Siberia. He was totally opposed to any war and, had he been in Saint Petersburg, could have prevented Russian mobilisation. By the time he had recovered, it was too late.

 

quote/The author, Colin Wilson, says in his book Rasputin:

 

“There are fifty degrees of longitude between Sarajevo and Pokrovskoe, which means that eleven o’clock in Sarajevo it is about 2.15 in Pokrovskoe. It is a strange coincidence that two assassins struck at almost exactly the same moment, a coincidence that makes one inclined to doubt the blindness of history. Ferdinand’s death made war probable, Rasputin’s injury made it certain, for he was the only man in Russia capable of averting it.”

He's forgotten that Russia at that time was operating on the old Julian calendar - therefore in the rest of the world the stabbing of Rasputin was 12 July 1914, two weeks after the assassination of Franz Ferdinand.

The author, Colin Wilson, says in his book Rasputin:

 

“....It is a strange coincidence that two assassins struck at almost exactly the same moment.......

There is such a thing as checking the veracity of your source.

are you one of the blokes I upset on the gay marraige thread?

Nope never posted on it. Are you homophobic?

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as we come up to the 100 anniversary of WW1 and we get another step closer to WW 3 with the recent events in the ukraine /

here's a strange coincidence/

 

rasputin and ferdinand were both murdered at the exact same time on June 26, 1914

The Archduke Ferdinand was murdered shortly before eleven. Rasputin was stabbed at 2:15, and 10:55 in Sarajevo was exactly 2:15 in Pokrovskoe. The man whose death caused the First World War, and the man who could have been an influence on averting the war, were struck down at the same moment.

As has been pointed out they werent both murdered at the same time or on the same day.

As has been pointed out they werent both murdered at the same time or on the same day.

His attitude is like a member of the Flat Earth Society saying but they claimed the Earth was flat.

His attitude is like a member of the Flat Earth Society saying but they claimed the Earth was flat.

They have a forum which makes even some of the people on here seem straight-forward!

He's forgotten that Russia at that time was operating on the old Julian calendar - therefore in the rest of the world the stabbing of Rasputin was 12 July 1914, two weeks after the assassination of Franz Ferdinand.

where's your source for that

http://www.localhistories.org/rasputin.html

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There is such a thing as checking the veracity of your source.

you having a break from following people round for spelling mistakes

or have the two great satans buck and harleyman put you in your place again:)

 

 

His attitude is like a member of the Flat Earth Society saying but they claimed the Earth was flat.

that's bit rich coming from a bloke that believes in muslim sky pixies init

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Nope never posted on it. Are you homophobic?

nope, why do you ask?

 

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As has been pointed out they werent both murdered at the same time or on the same day.

as pointed out attempted murder read the posts stupid.

How unfortunate that otherwise nice people should be unkind to one another over the dates of happenings from some time ago.