Would you give a homeless person a room?

Watching the BBC program about debt collectors, there was a foreign woman with 2 children that was being evicted. There was no help from the council of that area, because she was born abroad, lived in the UK about 8 years, partner returned to home country. Anyone see it, not sure if they followed up, to see what finally happened.

People get thousands in benefits, but this woman and children got zero. I think homeless people should be given a basic room, that is safe, you you have kept this family from being on the street?

Watching the BBC program about debt collectors, there was a foreign woman with 2 children that was being evicted. There was no help from the council of that area, because she was born abroad, lived in the UK about 8 years, partner returned to home country. Anyone see it, not sure if they followed up, to see what finally happened.

People get thousands in benefits, but this woman and children got zero. I think homeless people should be given a basic room, that is safe, you you have kept this family from being on the street?

Great idea. Reason a lot of homeless people don't have a room, despite being eligible for it, is because it involves going through the benefits system and succeeding in putting in and maintaining a claim to get rent money.

A lot of people aren't capable of dealing with the DWP forms and bizarre procedures/rules, thus they don't get a room, even though they would love one.

Cutting the DWP out of the equation totally would help a lot.

Great idea. Reason a lot of homeless people don't have a room, despite being eligible for it, is because it involves going through the benefits system and succeeding in putting in and maintaining a claim to get rent money.

 

A lot of people aren't capable of dealing with the DWP forms and bizarre procedures/rules, thus they don't get a room, even though they would love one.

 

Cutting the DWP out of the equation totally would help a lot.

If you consider filling in a form and waiting for a response bizarre that is.

If you consider filling in a form and waiting for a response bizarre that is.

If that were it, that'd be OK.

It's not. The forms are convoluted and unnecessarily (and deliberately so) complicated- to the extent that most claimants require the assistance of the CAB (Citizens Advice Bureau).

Due to strict and unnecessary DWP deadlines, combined with the CAB being underfunded and thus requiring very long waiting times, it's often impossible to access the essential advice before the deadlines expire.

That's bad enough for undamaged human beings. As homeless people tend not to be undamaged, with substance issues, autism, backgrounds of abuse, mental illness etc, it is indeed impossible for them to carry a claim through.

As the govt and DWP know full well- their funding model rests on the fact that a lot of people eligible for benefits will be unable to obtain them, due to the built in difficulties.

If that were it, that'd be OK.

 

It's not. The forms are convoluted and unnecessarily (and deliberately so) complicated- to the extent that most claimants require the assistance of the CAB (Citizens Advice Bureau).

 

Due to strict and unnecessary DWP deadlines, combined with the CAB being underfunded and thus requiring very long waiting times, it's often impossible to access the essential advice before the deadlines expire.

 

That's bad enough for undamaged human beings. As homeless people tend not to be undamaged, with substance issues, autism, backgrounds of abuse, mental illness etc, it is indeed impossible for them to carry a claim through.

 

As the govt and DWP know full well- their funding model rests on the fact that a lot of people eligible for benefits will be unable to obtain them, due to the built in difficulties.

I managed it without any problem. It was not convoluted or unnecessarily. All the information required is so they (The DWP) can make a decision.

You can get an appointment with the CAB by walking in and waiting too.

You seem to fish for excuses.

The council have a duty of care towards the children, they would/should have ensured they had a place to stay that night - even if it was a hotel.

It doesn't matter if they were foreign.

No, but I'd let them have a shower, wash their clothes etc

I already do. I know him & he's staying with me while he's waiting to get his new flat.

I managed it without any problem. It was not convoluted or unnecessarily. All the information required is so they (The DWP) can make a decision.

 

You can get an appointment with the CAB by walking in and waiting too.

 

Well, it's all cool then, isn't it? If you did it, on the occasion you applied, then it must be really straightforward and equally easy and successful for everyone

Here's a long list of people who died, many of them committing suicide due to the convoluted and corrupt application procedure for PIP (also administered by the DWP)-

http://blacktrianglecampaign.org/2014/10/21/uk-welfare-reform-deaths-updated-list-october-21st-2014/

perhaps you could put in a successful claim for PIP, then presumably that would mean all future disabled people would also be successful and deaths like the ones above would cease?

Back to reality though, or, in your case, maybe an introduction to reality- claiming benefits for many of those entitled to them, is far from easy (or possible, in some cases), and, the fact that some people find it works for them, has zero bearing on other people who find the difficulties overwhelming.

At the end of the programme, it said that the lady and children in question had been sent to a b&b in Southend, (she had been living and working in London), and given a one-way ticket to get there. She is no doubt still there, stuck in the system- or out of it?

At the end of the programme, it said that the lady and children in question had been sent to a b&b in Southend, (she had been living and working in London), and given a one-way ticket to get there. She is no doubt still there, stuck in the system- or out of it?

She did seem upset by the experience, she might want to get herself some stability in the future.

Yes I would... and breakfast, a bubble bath, some clean clothes and lend a kind ear if such is needed.