Food banks not being used properly

What is a shame and a disgrace is that children in this wealthy country of ours are going to bed hungry and the OP is moaning about an old biker throwing food away and some addicts laughing. Get a grip.

What is a shame and a disgrace is that children in this wealthy country of ours are going to bed hungry and the OP is moaning about an old biker throwing food away and some addicts laughing. Get a grip.

You are right it is a disgrace if it happens - because today there's no need whatsoever for this to happen.

If they were going to bed hungry in the recent past, then it was due to bad parenting or poor financial decision skills by the parents, mainly.

Foodbanks are now advertised in job centres - which seems quite logical, and since this happened more poeple have used them rather than them or their children going hungry. It's no wonder they've sprang up. Now things like quick money lenders are becoming more restricted, loaning money is more difficult (thankfully) so people will get less debt, and get food. Seems a good thing to me (or better than previous alternative)

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If they are going hungry now with the wide availability of foodbanks, then it is almost certainly down to bad parenting.

There is no excuse for a child going hungry while foodbanks are fairly widely available, and are well publicised (positively OR negatively). Everyone knows about them, and good.

Bad parenting, nothing less. If my child was going hungry and foodbanks weren't available, and I couldn't get money, I would go and ask next door or the next one etc. for something to eat. Then whoever gave me something, I would pop around and do their lawn or something in the future days. It'd be very embarrassing asking at the time, but that's now not needed.

So what if someone turns up in a car? The car could be essential to their current life structure, but they happen to be currently unable to afford food. If they've been referred there, it's for a reason - and that's no one's business but theirs.

What we know from personal testimonies is that parents normally go hungry and feed their children first, before feeding themselves.

We also know from personal testimonies that people feel deep shame and embarrassment in going to food banks.

Crises happen in people's lives - people get divorced, relationship break down, they get made redundant or have a period of ill health. The sharp rise in recent years of food bank usage tells me that people don't become feckless or bad parents overnight, but that people's circumstances have changed, and the statutory safety net is no longer adequate to meet their needs - it's slow, judgemental, poorly advertised, poorly taken up and is often arbitrary. Once again, people's personal stories confirm this.

Has anybody on here used/been to a food bank before? There are about 16 across the city

Nick Clegg has attended the one in High Green in the past.

If he loses the election, I suspect he'll be there every week.

I think most people who use food banks probably haven't forgone every superfluous luxury in their lives.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they went straight from the food bank to the news agents for fags, booze, lottery, whatever.

You got some evidence...most people? really?

Easy to have a pop at the most needy in society from behind your keybaord isn't it?

I think most people who use food banks probably haven't forgone every superfluous luxury in their lives.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they went straight from the food bank to the news agents for fags, booze, lottery, whatever.

Any evidence for this? If they can't afford food, how are they going to be able to afford cigarettes and booze which are substantially more expensive

You are right it is a disgrace if it happens - because today there's no need whatsoever for this to happen.

 

If they were going to bed hungry in the recent past, then it was due to bad parenting or poor financial decision skills by the parents, mainly.

 

Foodbanks are now advertised in job centres - which seems quite logical, and since this happened more poeple have used them rather than them or their children going hungry. It's no wonder they've sprang up. Now things like quick money lenders are becoming more restricted, loaning money is more difficult (thankfully) so people will get less debt, and get food. Seems a good thing to me (or better than previous alternative)

 

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If they are going hungry now with the wide availability of foodbanks, then it is almost certainly down to bad parenting.

 

There is no excuse for a child going hungry while foodbanks are fairly widely available, and are well publicised (positively OR negatively). Everyone knows about them, and good.

 

Bad parenting, nothing less. If my child was going hungry and foodbanks weren't available, and I couldn't get money, I would go and ask next door or the next one etc. for something to eat. Then whoever gave me something, I would pop around and do their lawn or something in the future days. It'd be very embarrassing asking at the time, but that's now not needed.

 

So what if someone turns up in a car? The car could be essential to their current life structure, but they happen to be currently unable to afford food. If they've been referred there, it's for a reason - and that's no one's business but theirs.

So you recognise/acknowledge that in order to stop their children from going to bed hungry, some families in this country have to rely on foodbanks - the charity of others - on a massively organised scale. Is this acceptable to you in our country?

So you recognise/acknowledge that in order to stop their children from going to bed hungry, some families in this country have to rely on foodbanks - the charity of others - on a massively organised scale. Is this acceptable to you in our country?

I answered that. I said it's better than the previous alternative which was hungry and borrowing money from 'payday' lenders etc. and raking up more debt.

Ahh, this old chestnut. Lets blame The Tory's because it suits our agenda and is easier than having to think about what caused the situation in the first place.

The reason we have so much "poverty" in this country is because for many years Labour created a state dependent on welfare by closing down manual skilled jobs, and importing lots of cheap labour, thus having a group dependent on Labour for their income. However, it got so expensive that when other financial problems occurred, (which Brown had said wouldn't happen as he had got rid of boom and bust), the country had to resort to expensive debts to stay afloat.

Then we got a coalition Govt who have tried to wean people off of benefits. Some of us think that's a good thing, for the country, AND for the individuals concerned, but Labour hate that approach.

Consequently, it has lead to problems, and some people have been put in a difficult situation while they adjust. That's unfortunate, but will be better in the long run.

And as for those in poverty, well I live on an estate surrounded by it. And I often see people who are on benefits or low incomes jump in a taxi to pop round to the corner shop for some fags and to top up the electric. Using a taxi when they could walk hardly suggests real poverty.

But some people are now so selfish that they think they are in poverty if they haven't got the best Sky TV package, so they spend their income on those things knowing they can easily get food from a food bank. Lets face it, if champagne socialists like Martin Freeman would rather declare themselves bankrupt than pay their tax bills, then its no wonder that people at the other end of the financial scale should have no shame.

I now look forward to all the childish name calling from the lefties.

Ahh, this old chestnut. Lets blame The Tory's because it suits our agenda and is easier than having to think about what caused the situation in the first place.

 

The reason we have so much "poverty" in this country is because for many years Labour created a state dependent on welfare by closing down manual skilled jobs, and importing lots of cheap labour, thus having a group dependent on Labour for their income. However, it got so expensive that when other financial problems occurred, (which Brown had said wouldn't happen as he had got rid of boom and bust), the country had to resort to expensive debts to stay afloat.

 

Then we got a coalition Govt who have tried to wean people off of benefits. Some of us think that's a good thing, for the country, AND for the individuals concerned, but Labour hate that approach.

 

Consequently, it has lead to problems, and some people have been put in a difficult situation while they adjust. That's unfortunate, but will be better in the long run.

 

And as for those in poverty, well I live on an estate surrounded by it. And I often see people who are on benefits or low incomes jump in a taxi to pop round to the corner shop for some fags and to top up the electric. Using a taxi when they could walk hardly suggests real poverty.

 

But some people are now so selfish that they think they are in poverty if they haven't got the best Sky TV package, so they spend their income on those things knowing they can easily get food from a food bank. Lets face it, if champagne socialists like Martin Freeman would rather declare themselves bankrupt than pay their tax bills, then its no wonder that people at the other end of the financial scale should have no shame.

 

I now look forward to all the childish name calling from the lefties.

I hope you don't get called childish names, however when you post something as blatantly partisan you can hardly expect a serious response.

I'm only surprised you haven't wheeled out the old chestnut about 'seeing a welfare scrounger on your estate get out of her motability scooter to run after the ice cream van'

And you seem pretty cocksure about he response you're likely to receive for someone who, allegedly, only joined the forum this month. Sure you've not been here before, but got banned? (I guess it's the lure of the election that brought you back Sheffield Forum)

Mister M, I assure you that I have never been a member of this forum before, let alone banned.

I have noticed that you make similar accusations to other people, but I have told you straight so don't expect you'll feel the need to repeat that allegation.

Not that it matters anyway, my views are my views. I don't really care who or what you think I am, that's your concern.

And as for the welfare scrounger running after the ice cream man. We all know people on welfare are too lazy to run. oops, now I've sank to your level of debate, I do apologise.

Katie Hopkins says people who use food banks are the new 'fat cats'. What's everyone's opinion on that?