Petition to strip Tony Blair of his Save the Children award.

Apparently, Blair's children travel on an Irish passport for security reasons, which is ironic when you consider that his actions probably made British passport holders more of a target.

Can anyone give me an example of a legal war?

An example of an illegal war. Sadam's Iraq invading Kuwait in 1990 and mudering the civilian population

An example of a legal war. A UN sanctioned operation in which several dozen nations go into Kuwait and remove the Iraqi forces back to their own country.

An example of an illegal war. Sadam's Iraq invading Kuwait in 1990 and mudering the civilian population

 

An example of a legal war. A UN sanctioned operation in which several dozen nations go into Kuwait and remove the Iraqi forces back to their own country.

So not stopping people killing their own people then?

I thought Tony Blair was a good PM in the first few years.

He seemed to be very keen to get the Northern Ireland peace process moving, wasn't he the one who was involved in negotiation of the Good Friday agreement? and didn't he intervene in the rescue of those Muslim Kosovan Albanians in the ethnic cleansing atrocities? He must have done something right because they regard him as a hero.

After the 9/11 event, his leadership turned out to be one disaster after another, but would another politician from his own or any other party have done any different had they been in his position? we'll never know that will we.

I thought Tony Blair was a good PM in the first few years.

 

He seemed to be very keen to get the Northern Ireland peace process moving, wasn't he the one who was involved in negotiation of the Good Friday agreement? and didn't he intervene in the rescue of those Muslim Kosovan Albanians in the ethnic cleansing atrocities? He must have done something right because they regard him as a hero.

 

After the 9/11 event, his leadership turned out to be one disaster after another, but would another politician from his own or any other party have done any different had they been in his position? we'll never know that will we.

I must agree with you even thought I do not like the man.

Why was it illegal, is there such a thing as a legal war since someone has to instigate it? And it still doesn't make him a war criminal

 

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Which is what happened

Well if you opened the links you would see that the attorney general of this country and the former UN chief weapons inspector both thought it illegal.

The attorney general then altered his position after the Americans 'had a word' with him. Wonder what new information they gave him which changed his mind?

When you consider that there were no 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' and Iraq were not a direct threat to this country or the US it must have been interesting, wonder why they never bothered to tell the rest of us?

No, it is not what happened, the US did not invade Iraq to free the oppressed population they did so for their own interests.

For anyone to try to claim that humanitarian reasons were involved is ludicrous. Oppressed people everywhere must be praying that the US doesn't come to their aid if that was the case.

Hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians were killed as a result of the invasion and the country is in turmoil.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDwQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fworld-middle-east-24547256&ei=Hfp4VMeaBK2P7AbhvIDoDQ&usg=AFQjCNE6eSZPUMISfJeYmEtNI65C0yW60g

I thought Tony Blair was a good PM in the first few years.

 

He seemed to be very keen to get the Northern Ireland peace process moving, wasn't he the one who was involved in negotiation of the Good Friday agreement? and didn't he intervene in the rescue of those Muslim Kosovan Albanians in the ethnic cleansing atrocities? He must have done something right because they regard him as a hero.

 

After the 9/11 event, his leadership turned out to be one disaster after another, but would another politician from his own or any other party have done any different had they been in his position? we'll never know that will we.

All the main parties backed him so it's likely they would have followed the Washington line. You're right, he was a breath of fresh air when he gained power. Ironically he turned out as destructive, corrupt and narcissistic as Thatcher...if not more so in his own right. If this was Cameron mecky would be baying for blood. Ironically Blair is as right wing as Cameron is..if not more so.

All the main parties backed him so it's likely they would have followed the Washington line. You're right, he was a breath of fresh air when he gained power. Ironically he turned out as destructive, corrupt and narcissistic as Thatcher...if not more so in his own right. If this was Cameron mecky would be baying for blood. Ironically Blair is as right wing as Cameron is..if not more so.

Agreed.

Tony Blair confused British politics by taking the Tory ground from them.

As you say, he was, and is, right wing.

Too many people in this country vote on traditional ' mi dad were a socialist' 'my father was conservative' lines.

People should try and look at the agenda which each party is looking to impose.

I hold to no party ideology, how can any party be right 100% of the time?

Additionally, because of long term experience I tend to view all politicians in a cynical way.

Lord Acton said " Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely "

Not so sure that that is correct, do people change their nature because they find themselves in a position of power?

In my view it would be more accurate to say " corrupt people seek power ".

What's the point of being corrupt if you are not in a position to take advantage of it?

Sepp Blatter would only make pennies as a corrupt bus conductor.

Well if you opened the links you would see that the attorney general of this country and the former UN chief weapons inspector both thought it illegal.

 

The attorney general then altered his position after the Americans 'had a word' with him. Wonder what new information they gave him which changed his mind?

 

When you consider that there were no 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' and Iraq were not a direct threat to this country or the US it must have been interesting, wonder why they never bothered to tell the rest of us?

 

No, it is not what happened, the US did not invade Iraq to free the oppressed population they did so for their own interests.

 

For anyone to try to claim that humanitarian reasons were involved is ludicrous. Oppressed people everywhere must be praying that the US doesn't come to their aid if that was the case.

 

Hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians were killed as a result of the invasion and the country is in turmoil.

 

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDwQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fworld-middle-east-24547256&ei=Hfp4VMeaBK2P7AbhvIDoDQ&usg=AFQjCNE6eSZPUMISfJeYmEtNI65C0yW60g

Thoughts on Afghanistan? I think it was complicated, not brilliantly executed but ultimately the right thing to do - it's where bin laden was (although for how long is another question). Iraq was a pointless exercise.

Blair, whilst ever he has the title of Middle east peace envoy I refuse to take him seriously. Has it ever looked worse and what, if anything has he tried to do?

Thoughts on Afghanistan? I think it was complicated, not brilliantly executed but ultimately the right thing to do - it's where bin laden was (although for how long is another question). Iraq was a pointless exercise.

 

Blair, whilst ever he has the title of Middle east peace envoy I refuse to take him seriously. Has it ever looked worse and what, if anything has he tried to do?

Tony Blair is on record as stating that he isn't interested in history.

I find that a ridiculous statement for anyone in politics, history tells us how we got where we are.

As for Afghanistan, a little knowledge of history may have avoided a lot of pain.

Knowledge of the outcome of previous British military adventures in the area could have avoided further pain and embarrassment.

Britain has now been defeated four times in Afghanistan.

When you invade a country, fail to achieve your objective and have to withdraw, leaving the country to return to it's previous anarchic state then you have lost.

Lives have been lost, lives have been ruined, treasure has been wasted, additional enemies have been created and nothing has been gained.

Whichever way you try to spin it, that's a defeat, and Tony Blair is to blame.

Well if you opened the links you would see that the attorney general of this country and the former UN chief weapons inspector both thought it illegal.

I did and it still doesn't change anything, it's just their opinion. I'm asking you now, why do you think it was illegal? Just because you've been told it was and it suits your poitical leaning to say it was illegal?

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Iraq was a pointless exercise.

 

Blair, whilst ever he has the title of Middle east peace envoy I refuse to take him seriously. Has it ever looked worse and what, if anything has he tried to do?

Why was Iraq a pointless exercise?

I think you're saying it is because of your last paragraph.

The question in 27 is still open to everyone.

I don't really agree with the award but whatever he did in Iraq he has done some good work in Africa.