Evidence Bombs were planted beneath trains on 7/7

Yes of course it is Jay...........in your mind and a few dozen people who believe Hill is the real king.

 

http://mtrial.org/muaddib/reasons

There you go again.

Your tactics are so obvious,only a complete sap would think because a few wierdo's post some way out stuff on a website that supports the man/messiah means that the 7/7 bombings happened just like the government and press said it did .i'd rather have Hill as king than any of the pricks that we do have the power in this country anyway.

Hail Muad'Dib

There you go again.

Your tactics are so obvious,only a complete sap would think because a few wierdo's post some way out stuff on a website that supports the man/messiah means that the 7/7 bombings happened just like the government and press said it did .i'd rather have Hill as king than any of the pricks that we do have the power in this country anyway.

 

You'll make a convert yet Jay - next you'll be telling us that the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" aren't a fake.

How did the bodies of the four bombers come to be found at the crime scenes - some of them who'd rented a house to make the bombs?

i'd rather have Hill as king than any of the pricks that we do have the power in this country anyway.

Really? You'd rather we repealled all of our laws, except those which Anthony specifically likes? You'd rather we could all have as many guns as we want (I notice this isn't working too well in America at the moment)? You'd rather women were treated as the property of their husbands and not as fellow human beings? You'd rather homosexuals were persecuted by the state? You'd rather everyone had the ability to imprison anyone else?

I'm sorry vResistance, I don't share your sunny outlook on the Messiah's great plans for the world. It actually seems almost as bad as the plans for the enslavement of the entire human race that the NWO are apparently planning, in fact it seems to be exactly the same idea, just put a different way.

Really? You'd rather we repealled all of our laws, except those which Anthony specifically likes? You'd rather we could all have as many guns as we want (I notice this isn't working too well in America at the moment)? You'd rather women were treated as the property of their husbands and not as fellow human beings? You'd rather homosexuals were persecuted by the state? You'd rather everyone had the ability to imprison anyone else?

 

I'm sorry vResistance, I don't share your sunny outlook on the Messiah's great plans for the world. It actually seems almost as bad as the plans for the enslavement of the entire human race that the NWO are apparently planning, in fact it seems to be exactly the same idea, just put a different way.

You might want to help me out and provide some quotes/links to where he says this stuff,i have had a browse but can't find it.

I did find this though which i found interesting and is relevant to the topic-

"The ISC report states that Mohammed Siddique/Sidique Khan and Shazad/Shehzad Tanweer were known about, but were not considered to be a threat to the public. If they had both been recruited to work for MI5, then MI5 would obviously not consider them to be any threat, but rather to be an asset instead of a threat.

It has been suggested by ex-members of the intelligence services that Mohammed Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer could have been working for MI5, so this is not an unreasonable deduction to make, as it would explain what happened. The police also said that they did not fit the profile of suicide-bombers or terrorists. We have also been told that the mastermind behind the 7/7 bombings was Haroon Rashid Aswat, who is known to be a MI6 agent and is now in a maximum-security mental institution (to keep him from talking?).

It is possible that Mohammed Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer were actually working for MI5, as informants, in the Operation CREVICE fertilizer-bomb plot case that is referred to in the ISC report, and, if so, that would account for why they were known about, but not considered to be any threat. It would also explain how they could have easily been recruited to take part in the training-drill that was taking place on 7/7/2005, and easily have been duped into making those videos.

If this was what happened, then these assets became expendable assets. It should serve as a warning to all to be very careful about co-operating with elements of State intelligence services, who; from time to time; have helped to carry out false-flag attacks upon citizens for what they presumably and mistakenly perceive as "the greater good". You should all; including members of the intelligence services and the police; ask yourselves whether you find this acceptable and not keep burying your heads in the sand. Those who are not only thinking of their next pay-cheque, and little else, already see there is something terribly wrong with government and its organs and that something needs to be done about it. They have become your controllers instead of servants of you, the people."

...Why don't we pick the bones out of that ?

Some more on CREVICE here from another.

http://iprd.org.uk/?p=48

The Institute for Policy Research & Development (IPRD) is an independent, non-profit, transdisciplinary research organisation promoting equality, sustainability and security. Based in London and founded in April 2001, the IPRD operates as a voluntary collective and global network of scholars, scientists and researchers.

"In April 2007, five British Muslims were sent to jail, in each case for at least twenty years under anti-terrorism legislation. Their crimes were said to be heinous – planning to set off explosive devices in packed nightclubs and shopping centres, plotting to poison burger vans at football matches and even contemplating the assassination of the Prime Minister. So wicked were their intentions that the presiding judge in the case warned them that they may never be released.

It seemed that the British public had dodged a bullet. Efficient intelligence and police work had quashed a plot that could have murdered hundreds. Justice had been served on a group of men who posed a pressing danger to society.

However, a closer examination of what was instantly labelled the “fertiliser bomb” case suggests that this is incorrect. Although the plotters may have been genuine, strong evidence suggests that at all stages of their activity, intelligence agencies monitored their progress. Not only were they monitored, but evidence also suggests that their training and preparation was facilitated by individuals who now enjoy protection by the British state. This raises serious questions about the relationship between the British government and terrorist networks.1

It also raises questions about the extent of state surveillance, which has expanded under the cover of the “war on terror.” The intelligence agencies rarely have to justify their activities, but Operation Crevice exposes fundamental flaws in their internal workings. Hopefully, this report will provide ammunition for those who seek accountability, openness, honesty and reform".

And some interesting stuff brought to light on this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWP-Pmw4zfE

this vile and offensive thread still running, what a supprise.

this vile and offensive thread still running, what a supprise.

Are you MI5 or something ?

Are you MI5 or something ?

yes and we know what your thinking, as your tin hat is to thin.

yes and we know what your thinking, as your tin hat is to thin.

Firmly in place thanks.

You might want to help me out and provide some quotes/links to where he says this stuff,i have had a browse but can't find it.

I did find this though which i found interesting and is relevant to the topic-

 

 

"The ISC report states that Mohammed Siddique/Sidique Khan and Shazad/Shehzad Tanweer were known about, but were not considered to be a threat to the public. If they had both been recruited to work for MI5, then MI5 would obviously not consider them to be any threat, but rather to be an asset instead of a threat.

 

It has been suggested by ex-members of the intelligence services that Mohammed Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer could have been working for MI5, so this is not an unreasonable deduction to make, as it would explain what happened. The police also said that they did not fit the profile of suicide-bombers or terrorists. We have also been told that the mastermind behind the 7/7 bombings was Haroon Rashid Aswat, who is known to be a MI6 agent and is now in a maximum-security mental institution (to keep him from talking?).

 

It is possible that Mohammed Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer were actually working for MI5, as informants, in the Operation CREVICE fertilizer-bomb plot case that is referred to in the ISC report, and, if so, that would account for why they were known about, but not considered to be any threat. It would also explain how they could have easily been recruited to take part in the training-drill that was taking place on 7/7/2005, and easily have been duped into making those videos.

 

If this was what happened, then these assets became expendable assets. It should serve as a warning to all to be very careful about co-operating with elements of State intelligence services, who; from time to time; have helped to carry out false-flag attacks upon citizens for what they presumably and mistakenly perceive as "the greater good". You should all; including members of the intelligence services and the police; ask yourselves whether you find this acceptable and not keep burying your heads in the sand. Those who are not only thinking of their next pay-cheque, and little else, already see there is something terribly wrong with government and its organs and that something needs to be done about it. They have become your controllers instead of servants of you, the people."

 

 

...Why don't we pick the bones out of that ?

Lets see. Some unamed "ex-members of the intelligence services" have suggested that two of the terrorists "could" have been working for MI5? That's the extent of your "evidence".

Well, that didn't take long. Just a load of conjecture presented as proof.

 

 

...Why don't we pick the bones out of that ?

Because it's merely conjecture, based on hearsay evidence from an unkown and quite possibly fictitious source, posted on a thread by someone who believes a lunatic is the real king.

Throughout the year long trial which took place as a result of Operation Crevice; one of the Muslim men under surveillance, who was NOT on trial, was referred to as "Ibrahim". Code-name "Ibrahim" turned out to be none other than Mohammed Sidique Khan.

It is well-known that MI5 do not wish to reveal certain information relating to Khan because it would be harmful to national security, or so they say. The most logical conclusion is that Khan was one of their assets. Expendable, as it turned out.

The admission by MI5 that Khan was one of their assets would open up a further can of worms.

Khan was right in the thick of things in the so-called Crevice plot, but was never put on trial or thoroughly investigated. Only way that could happen is if orders to leave Khan alone came from higher-up.

Police understand that sometimes apparent criminals are actually informants, and would have had no problem in following the order, if it came, to back off from Khan.

This would make a lot more sense than the police failing to properly investigate him, given the connections he was forming with Crevice ringleaders, and furthermore failing to show any desire to prosecute him along with the others.

It would also explain the video in which he appears, made in 2003/2004 NOT 2005, because this, amongst other things, could have been used as "proof" to extremists, that he was "on their side", and thereby facilitate his work as an informant.

After the Crevice round-up and trial, extremists will have suspected Khan, as a result of him avoiding trial, and these suspicions will have meant he was no longer of any use to MI5. Not of use, and already knew too much.

Khan and the others obviously had a handler. Or Khan had one, and he in turn was the handler of the others. CCTV evidence (much of which has been edited out and is missing) suggests that contact was made with the occupants of a Jaguar car at Luton station car park, on 28th June and then on 7th July 2005. Two witnesses who were there also reported seeing five men together, not four.

The police explanation for not following up on this 5th man was very unsatisfactory, in fact it wasn't much of an explanation at all. They just said the lead was not important, without offering any reasons. Again, this suggests they were told not to investigate this 5th man, or that Jaguar.