taxman   12 #1 Posted July 20, 2015 If the interim Labour leader Harman tells all the Labour party to abstain in the vote on the budget...what is the actual point of The Labour Party or Her Majesty's Official Opposition?  I could agree with her standpoint if it was a matter of national security, like bombing ISIS, but if she's just going to go along with any tory policy because it makes the Labour Party seem electable then it won't do. Faced with Tories, or Labour, (pretend tory lite, ineffectual, halfhearted tory )...nobody is going to vote for Tory Mk2 when there is a fully functioning Tory Mk1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RonJeremy   10 #2 Posted July 20, 2015 Let's hope jezza Corbin gets the leadership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Happ Hazzard   10 #3 Posted July 20, 2015 I believe Labour have realised what the word "labour" means. It means work. They need the votes of working people to get back into power and ignoring people and telling them they are wrong isn't going to wash anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
blake   10 #4 Posted July 21, 2015 Let's hope jezza Corbin gets the leadership.  Hamas, Hezbullah and the British Conservative party all of them want him to win too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Stoatwobbler   10 #5 Posted July 21, 2015 I believe Labour have realised what the word "labour" means. It means work. They need the votes of working people to get back into power and ignoring people and telling them they are wrong isn't going to wash anymore.  The Labour Party at the moment only work for, and only represent the leadership of the Labour party. Which is why they are in such a horrible mess right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
taxman   12 #6 Posted July 21, 2015 Abstaining was just a cop out. If they support the welfare cuts they should have voted for them and if they oppose them they should have voted against them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
drummonds   10 #7 Posted July 21, 2015 Abstaining was just a cop out. If they support the welfare cuts they should have voted for them and if they oppose them they should have voted against them.  it was indeed a cop out. if they had voted against the cuts some journalist might have asked where they would save the money without the cuts. then they would have been screwed. i can't wait for someone to ask corbin how he would fund the abolition of student tuition fees. where will the money come from now that the greek model has been shown to be flawed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   214 #8 Posted July 21, 2015 This vote was discussed on their leaders debate on BBC's Sunday Politics. One wouldn't commit but the rest were strongly against it, citing that what should a woman do if the man walks out and leaves her to bring up three children.  Erm, pursue the father to pay his way? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared   303 #9 Posted July 21, 2015 Abstaining was just a cop out. If they support the welfare cuts they should have voted for them and if they oppose them they should have voted against them.  I think it's worse than that, it's pretty much acknowledging that alot of it was their idea - but they're too pig-headed to agree with it once it's a Tory policy.  ---------- Post added 21-07-2015 at 10:29 ----------  what should a woman do if the man walks out and leaves her to bring up three children. Erm, pursue the father to pay his way?  They can be taken to court and forced to pay maintenance can't they?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
drummonds   10 #10 Posted July 21, 2015 The Labour Party at the moment only work for, and only represent the leadership of the Labour party. Which is why they are in such a horrible mess right now.  it probably explains this  http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13412121.Poll__60__of_voting_Scots_intend_to_support_SNP_in_next_year_s_Holyrood_election/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Stoatwobbler   10 #11 Posted July 21, 2015 it probably explains this http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13412121.Poll__60__of_voting_Scots_intend_to_support_SNP_in_next_year_s_Holyrood_election/  Problem is, the Scottish catastrophe is being largely ignored by many on the Blairite wing of Labour as it doesn't fit in with their theories of how to win elections. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #12 Posted July 21, 2015 Hamas, Hezbullah and the British Conservative party all of them want him to win too.  Do the other three labour candidates have Bibi's stamp of approval? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...