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should the bbc keep or lose the tv licence ?  

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  1. 1. should the bbc keep or lose the tv licence ?

    • make the bbc a subscription service and scrap the licence fee
      33
    • allow the bbc to show proper adverts but remove the licence fee aswell
      27
    • keep it the same and jail people for not paying for a licence
      8
    • create a new tax to support the bbc
      6


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What I don't really understand aswell isfans of the bbc say it's envied around the world, then why isn't it making more money from overseas sales, they only make a 25% of their money from the entire world yet 75% from the UK alone.

 

The 2 don't add up !

 

Maybe they only sell a small amount of their output? Doctor Who and Top Gear and Sherlock are the three biggest money spinners.

 

I can't imagine many foreign countries wanting to shell out for "homes under the hammer".

 

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UK TV is getting worse as younglings shun the BBC et al, says Ofcom

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/03/ofcom_psb_report/

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Maybe they only sell a small amount of their output? Doctor Who and Top Gear and Sherlock are the three biggest money spinners.

 

I can't imagine many foreign countries wanting to shell out for "homes under the hammer".

 

---------- Post added 03-07-2015 at 12:44 ----------

 

UK TV is getting worse as younglings shun the BBC et al, says Ofcom

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/03/ofcom_psb_report/

 

Just doesn't add up though, they have got what 65 million customers here yet with a product that's "envied all over the world" could have another 6.95 BILLION customers.

 

Why wouldn't they sell the product and use the profits to make its product even better

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Why wouldn't they sell the product and use the profits to make its product even better

 

If they had to make more decent programs that had a financial value that earned both revenue and returning viewers, like all other TV businesses, they couldn't carry on with the same BS about how they depend on the license fee and their "you WILL pay" philosophy.

 

ITV make and don't sell a program or it doesn't get viewers they lose money. The BBC does the same on a regular basis but the forced fee payers lose the money. Why should the BBC worry about a very competitive export market when they are guaranteed an income no matter what rubbish they feel is ok to churn out.

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Game of Thrones is the most popular TV programme in the world. Why don't BBC make something like this?

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Game of Thrones is the most popular TV programme in the world. Why don't BBC make something like this?

 

Maybe HBO got their first. Maybe it was AMERICAN screenwriters who adapted the books for TV.

 

What has that got to do with anything?

 

The BBC has not been absent of creating not only home based record beating programmes but also sold their formats all over the world.

 

Top Gear certainly being the most prominent. There has also been Dr Who, Strictly Come Dancing, Masterchef, Call the Midwife, Life Story and casting your minds back The Weakest Link all were BBC creations which exports and format rights were massive global successes.

 

Masses of BBC archive is used as the bulk of Sky and Freeview's output.

 

Look around the exported sales of other channels. How many ITV programmes with say exception of Who want to be a Millionaire have got anywhere near the global attention the BBC has.

 

It would not be able to produce what is does on subscription alone. Any commercial bias would wipe out funding for the totally forgotten but absolutely essential services such as Education, University, Consumer, Current Affairs and Religious programmes. Nobody would pay subscriptions for signed, audio described or other special access programmes.

 

The BBC without the licence fee would be an empty shell just like the US channel PBS. I certainly don't want to see it that way.

 

That's before we even get onto the 58 widely used radio stations which the licence fee critics are happy to listen to but seemingly think are funded by magic beans.

 

People need to stop thinking about the BBC as something they just seen on their screens. Its a PUBLIC SERVICE. An important one at that. The licence fees pay for a hell of a lot more than just what is seen on screen and its whose original set up gave us the physical capabilities to receive this freely available audio, visual and online content.

 

All these Sky and Freeview fans would be crying if the BBC influence and/or made contents were absent. How many OWN made programmes do those stations create.

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Maybe HBO got their first. Maybe it was AMERICAN screenwriters who adapted the books for TV.

 

What has that got to do with anything?

 

The BBC has not been absent of creating not only home based record beating programmes but also sold their formats all over the world.

 

Top Gear certainly being the most prominent. There has also been Dr Who, Strictly Come Dancing, Masterchef, Call the Midwife, Life Story and casting your minds back The Weakest Link all were BBC creations which exports and format rights were massive global successes.

 

Masses of BBC archive is used as the bulk of Sky and Freeview's output.

 

Look around the exported sales of other channels. How many ITV programmes with say exception of Who want to be a Millionaire have got anywhere near the global attention the BBC has.

 

It would not be able to produce what is does on subscription alone. Any commercial bias would wipe out funding for the totally forgotten but absolutely essential services such as Education, University, Consumer, Current Affairs and Religious programmes. Nobody would pay subscriptions for signed, audio described or other special access programmes.

 

The BBC without the licence fee would be an empty shell just like the US channel PBS. I certainly don't want to see it that way.

 

That's before we even get onto the 58 widely used radio stations which the licence fee critics are happy to listen to but seemingly think are funded by magic beans.

 

People need to stop thinking about the BBC as something they just seen on their screens. Its a PUBLIC SERVICE. An important one at that. The licence fees pay for a hell of a lot more than just what is seen on screen and its whose original set up gave us the physical capabilities to receive this freely available audio, visual and online content.

 

All these Sky and Freeview fans would be crying if the BBC influence and/or made contents were absent. How many OWN made programmes do those stations create.

 

Lol, some right twaddle in that post, apart from dave who just puts repeats of top gear on a loop I think you would be surprised, most of the stuff is American made and you know what it's fantastic, top movies, top drama, top documentaries, you say the BBC has a global attention, first of all then why are it's sales are plummeting downwards in the UK and if it has such massive attention around the world then why are it's overseas sales so poor ? We both know why cos it produces crap tv that can't be sold easily, yes it makes the odd good show every few years but so do every other channel, you seem proud if it's 58 radio stations, yet some of these are duplicate of another one they run ,do we really need radio 6 and radio 6 extra ? Really?

 

Why does radio 1 need to pay hundreds of thousands to dj's, it's not a talk radio station discussing points of view, it's sole reason is to play popular music, yet they hire dj after dj to stop playing music.

 

At least you have admitted that it would be destroyed without the licence fee,

So if its educational and cultural content was protected by General taxationon on one or two channels and its " entertainment" was made subscription based you would have no complaints about that ?

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Don’t have a TV BBC subscription and never will!!

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BBC planning to charge for the iPlayer in the future, also changing the tv licence to cover content online means you will now need a tv licence to watch content online .

 

Well that's a few hundred thousand more enemies for the BBC.

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Has anyone ever looked into the word TV Licence. ? Let me save anyone time that can not be bothered to do so. TV Licence IS NOT A LICENCE. It is nothing more than a play with words. The word TV licence was used to sound official. There is not such thing as a TV Licence. Driving licence > Yes. TV Licence NO. It is nothing more than a receipt . Please do some research.

 

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I have just started a live broadcast named code word. You all have to pay me £ 100. a month. I don’t care if you tune in or not. Pay me??? Will you pay me?? You need a code word licence to view. Pay me.

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Everythings a play on words, but that's beside the point.

 

 

 

"Part 4

Licensing of TV reception

 

363Licence required for use of TV receiver

(1)A television receiver must not be installed or used unless the installation and use of the receiver is authorised by a licence under this Part.

(2)A person who installs or uses a television receiver in contravention of subsection (1) is guilty of an offence."

 

From the Communications Act 2003. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/21/part/4

 

Regardless of whether you agree or not it is a license, issued because the owning or use of broadcast receiving equipment is a licensed activity.

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If you have a gaming machine, or another device capable of receiving a TV signal you NEED A TV LICENCE. >>>> NOT TRUE! Phone them up and ask!!!! This is the truth>>> Do you watch live bbc tv. Answer NO. Simple!

 

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You all have a PC Capable of receiving my code word TV channel pay me!!! I demand payment pay me! …. Will you pay?

 

---------- Post added 06-07-2015 at 00:17 ----------

 

psynuk ... Do I need a licence to own a car?

 

---------- Post added 06-07-2015 at 00:20 ----------

 

I will answer for you. I do not need a driving licence to own a car.! … I do not need a TV licence to own a TV, game machine etc! Simple!

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a gaming machine? what like an xbox, a ps vita, or a pc? phone who up? the government?

 

just out of curiosity.. do you actually watch live tv, do you actually have the equipment that would require a license and do you have a license?

 

Now I'm all for the fmotl philosophy of living but there is a consequence of doing so, If you want to be outside the framework of the law then fair dos but you can't really cherry pick those which do and does not apply to your self and maintain any air of credibility.

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