rickiethecat   10 #97 Posted May 7, 2014 I honestly don't know enough about it, just the little I've read in the newspapers. Like spike said, the jury heard all the evidence. I didn't. But, if you're going to convict someone of being a child abuser on the basis that they promised young women acting roles in blockbuster movies in exchange for sexual favours which then didn't materialise after the consented act, you better go and arrest most of Hollywood and their studio owners since the invention of the motion picture.  You've hit the nail on the head there. Max Clifford may be a particularly unpleasant person but he seems to have been given a particularly harsh sentence.  There has always been that casting couch thing about the entertainment industry and there will always be naive young girls who think performing a sex act on an influential person will get them a part in a movie, a record deal or a modelling contract. It would take a great deal of willpower for any red blooded male to resist such advances.  At the end of the day his so-called victims did voluntarily go to his office, get into his car or share a toilet cubicle with him so to suddenly decide 30 years later that they've been abused is a bit unbelievable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
skinz   10 #98 Posted May 7, 2014 You've hit the nail on the head there. Max Clifford may be a particularly unpleasant person but he seems to have been given a particularly harsh sentence. There has always been that casting couch thing about the entertainment industry and there will always be naive young girls who think performing a sex act on an influential person will get them a part in a movie, a record deal or a modelling contract. It would take a great deal of willpower for any red blooded male to resist such advances.  At the end of the day his so-called victims did voluntarily go to his office, get into his car or share a toilet cubicle with him so to suddenly decide 30 years later that they've been abused is a bit unbelievable.  Your power of philosophical reasoning is breathless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mr Clowning   10 #99 Posted May 7, 2014 There should be a minimum tariff for people that mess about with kids, give them all a 15 stretch as standard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared   317 #100 Posted July 3, 2015 oh goody, hopefully they can extend his stay at her majesties pleasure with this new case.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33386914  Former celebrity publicist Max Clifford has been charged with an indecent assault allegedly committed in 1981, the Crown Prosecution Service has said.  Mr Clifford, 71, was arrested on 12 March at Littlehey Prison, in Cambridgeshire, where he is serving a sentence for sex-related offences. He was arrested as part of Operation Yewtree, the Met Police investigation into sexual abuse allegations.  Mr Clifford will appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court on 21 July.  Baljit Ubhey, chief crown prosecutor for CPS London, said: "We have concluded that there is sufficient evidence and it is in the public interest for Mr Clifford to be charged with one offence of indecent assault." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Alan Ladd   10 #101 Posted July 3, 2015 oh goody, hopefully they can extend his stay at her majesties pleasure with this new case. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33386914  Does this merit another trial? He is locked up, what more do we want? Why go to the expense of another trial? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared   317 #102 Posted July 3, 2015 No mention of a trial only that he's been charged.  Hopefully with his current record, and utterly destroyed reputation he will just admit guilt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mossdog   10 #103 Posted July 3, 2015 Does this merit another trial? He is locked up, what more do we want? Why go to the expense of another trial?Those poor Lawyers have to earn a crust somehow Alan! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #104 Posted July 3, 2015 Does this merit another trial? He is locked up, what more do we want? Why go to the expense of another trial?  How about justice for his victims? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
harvey19 Â Â 541 #105 Posted July 3, 2015 I am coming to the conclusion that there should be a time limit after which an alleged offence can not be prosecuted. Also there should be a limit to the time that can pass before an allegation is made. Exceptions to this would include murder and other very serious offences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mossdog   10 #106 Posted July 3, 2015 I am coming to the conclusion that there should be a time limit after which an alleged offence can not be prosecuted. Also there should be a limit to the time that can pass before an allegation is made. Exceptions to this would include murder and other very serious offences. ........but it's not called the long arm of the law for nothing! and what does other very serious offences mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
harvey19 Â Â 541 #107 Posted July 3, 2015 ........but it's not called the long arm of the law for nothing! and what does other very serious offences mean? Â Other serious offences would have to be determined by the judiciary and parliament. All this brings into focus the reason for custodial sentences. Are they to rehabilitate a person to prevent future offending or purely punishment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #108 Posted July 5, 2015 I am coming to the conclusion that there should be a time limit after which an alleged offence can not be prosecuted. Also there should be a limit to the time that can pass before an allegation is made. Exceptions to this would include murder and other very serious offences. There are such time limits: a. in some other legal systems; and b. even in English law (but generally only civil cases: Limitation Act 1980). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...