TheNugget   10 #1 Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) The recent election announcement caused me to look back at the results of the 2015 election.  UKIP got 12% of the vote and Labour got 30%. UKIP got 1 MP and labour got 232.  That's not democracy.  I live in Chesterfield. Labour or Lib will win the seat. So if I wanted to vote Conservative my vote is literally pointless.  That's not democracy either.  Roughly the result should have been:  CON - 240 LAB - 198 UKIP - 82 LIB - 52  So why did the population not vote for Proportional Representation? Don't they like their vote to be counted? Edited April 20, 2017 by TheNugget Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Alex_B Â Â 10 #2 Posted April 20, 2017 Â So why did the population not vote for Proportional Representation? Â When did we get that vote? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jacktari   10 #3 Posted April 20, 2017 Why does UKIP need any MP's?  They have served their purpose, and caused the country to be split and removed from the EU.  They should disband and go back to their roots in Britain First, EDL, National Front etc. and stop wasting everyone's time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
unbeliever   10 #4 Posted April 20, 2017 The recent election announcement caused me to look back at the results of the 2015 election. UKIP got 12% of the vote and Labour got 30%. UKIP got 1 MP and labour got 232.  That's not democracy.  I live in Chesterfield. Labour or Lib will win the seat. So if I wanted to vote Conservative my vote is literally pointless.  That's not democracy either.  Roughly the result should have been:  CON - 240 LAB - 198 UKIP - 82 LIB - 52  So why did the population not vote for Proportional Representation? Don't they like their vote to be counted?  People don't like the idea of the voters for smaller parties getting another vote if their candidate loses.  ---------- Post added 20-04-2017 at 10:29 ----------  Why does UKIP need any MP's? They have served their purpose, and caused the country to be split and removed from the EU.  They should disband and go back to their roots in Britain First, EDL, National Front etc. and stop wasting everyone's time.  Soon Labour will be disbanded and go back to their Communist roots, and stop wasting everybody's time. After that I expect UKIP will do fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Puggie   10 #5 Posted April 20, 2017 People don't like the idea of the voters for smaller parties getting another vote if their candidate loses.  Mainstream parties favour FPTP because it scuppers the chances of so-called "extreme" parties like UKIP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jacktari   10 #6 Posted April 20, 2017 People don't like the idea of the voters for smaller parties getting another vote if their candidate loses. ---------- Post added 20-04-2017 at 10:29 ----------   Soon Labour will be disbanded and go back to their Communist roots, and stop wasting everybody's time. After that I expect UKIP will do fine.  Now their aim is achieved, the really need a revamped name. UKIP is looking a bit old hat. And that purple and yellow is a bit clashing. What about a red flag, with black letters, and a snazzy name? For instance, 'National Socialist', that would appeal to most of their membership I am sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
unbeliever   10 #7 Posted April 20, 2017 Now their aim is achieved, the really need a revamped name. UKIP is looking a bit old hat. And that purple and yellow is a bit clashing. What about a red flag, with black letters, and a snazzy name? For instance, 'National Socialist', that would appeal to most of their membership I am sure.  I think that's a big strong. I admit that Labour are socialist and authoritarian, but I'd stop short of comparing them to Hitler's lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
TheNugget   10 #8 Posted April 20, 2017 Why does UKIP need any MP's? They have served their purpose, and caused the country to be split and removed from the EU.  They should disband and go back to their roots in Britain First, EDL, National Front etc. and stop wasting everyone's time.  Because 12% of the electorate voted for them and they deserve their seat at the table? Just because you don't agree with their politics doesn't mean that they should be excluded....that would be dictatorship  ---------- Post added 20-04-2017 at 10:59 ----------  When did we get that vote?  Yes you're right. When can we have that vote then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   220 #9 Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) Because 12% of the electorate voted for them and they deserve their seat at the table?  Perhaps if PR had been one of UKIPs policies, but their backers were all Tories, so they want the Conservatives in power. Edited April 20, 2017 by El Cid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #10 Posted April 20, 2017 here we come, yet another name for the right wing troll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
TheNugget   10 #11 Posted April 20, 2017 here we come, yet another name for the right wing troll  Lib dems should have 52 seats also.  That better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
bs4124 Â Â 10 #12 Posted April 20, 2017 Since Mrs May came to office, she has effectively been delivering the 2015 UKIP manifesto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...