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The ELOYS tank stores the fluid for the DPF, this Peugeot needs this fluid for the DPF to work correctly, if the tank runs low the DPF can get clogged and you get stung with a nasty repair bill.

The car comes up as a 90hp model, so the more reliable engine to have.

Not to worry, to be forewarned is forearmed. The fixes are pretty simple and the other checks are easy to do, and there's a great band of Peugeot diagnostics specialists (my brother is one in Sheffield) who are happy to help.

And there are plenty of 207 owners on the forum who haven't had a problem.

the ELOYS tank is a little tiny container in the rear passenger side wheel arch. It contains a special fluid that is injected into the fuel tank every time you fill up. It makes the fuel burn hotter to burn off the particles trapped in the DPF (diesel particulate filter). If the previous owner has been filling the car up with a tenner here and there all the time, then the fluid level will be low or even empty.

It has a few drawbacks though that only appear over time and when the car is long out of warranty, namely:

The tank or pouch is in a vulnerable area and can get damaged or punctured by stones or other debris.

The electrical connectors to the tank or pouch can get dirt ingress.

The little magnetic sensors on the fuel cap (to detect when you're filling up and to add the ELOYS) can fall out, so it doesn't detect a fill up and the filter gets blocked quicker.

The glow plugs and glow plug relay need to be in good order. People think that modern cars never use glow plugs - they do when the car is "regenerating" and cleaning the DPF filter.

If you don't go to the dealers, you can get the additive filled up yourself really cheaply. You can buy the additive from GSF or Ebay and then get the car's counters reset by anyone with the Peugeot diagnostic equipment (my brother for one).

DPFs are just part and parcel of owning a modern diesel, pretty much like a catalytic converter is now accepted. You can get cheap ones from CATS2U. The EGR valve is a little trickier, but you can always blank it off, as many do.

Finally, don't forget to make sure you have at least two keys. If there's only one, make sure that the key card (a little credit card with a code number) is present which makes it easy for a replacement to be made much cheaper than the dealers. There's a really good fella in Bradford who specialises in Peugeot keys.

the ELOYS tank is a little tiny container in the rear passenger side wheel arch. It contains a special fluid that is injected into the fuel tank every time you fill up. It makes the fuel burn hotter to burn off the particles trapped in the DPF (diesel particulate filter). If the previous owner has been filling the car up with a tenner here and there all the time, then the fluid level will be low or even empty.

 

Is it different to the AdBlue used by some manufactuers?

I thought AdBlue was not burned with the fuel, but used to help take the particulates out of the exhaust gases, as a mist using condensation.

Have I got that right?

My peugeot 307 hdi has just about given up on me, and i am looking for another diesel, can anyone recommend one? i read a while ago on here that someone recommended a certain type of car that they said most taxi drivers use, but for the life of me i cant remember what it was, any recommendations?

i was looking to spend between 4k and 5k

Given the recent news about diesels, and the improvements in efficiency of petrol engines, why would you buy a diesel now? Unless you're hoping that a scrapage scheme is introduced and you can trade it in for a new car and a discount...

Is it different to the AdBlue used by some manufactuers?

 

I thought AdBlue was not burned with the fuel, but used to help take the particulates out of the exhaust gases, as a mist using condensation.

Have I got that right?

AdBlue is mainly used to reduce NOx emissions, the Peugeot system reduces particulate emissions.

Given the recent news about diesels, and the improvements in efficiency of petrol engines, why would you buy a diesel now? Unless you're hoping that a scrapage scheme is introduced and you can trade it in for a new car and a discount...

The proposed ULZ zone in London isn't due till 2020 I think, and it'll be a few years after for other cities to follow suit if they wish.

Public backlash was pretty strong when it was announced, so it waits to be seen who outside London will go for it.

Either way it's a good few years away and considering the car is a cheaper used Diesel it's no real issue changing it in 5 years time anyway.

Given the recent news about diesels, and the improvements in efficiency of petrol engines, why would you buy a diesel now? Unless you're hoping that a scrapage scheme is introduced and you can trade it in for a new car and a discount...

The Liberal Democrats wont get into power, and ban them by 2025

Is there any real advantage in having a diesel in the meantime?

Is there any real advantage in having a diesel in the meantime?

About double mpg.

Not to worry, to be forewarned is forearmed. The fixes are pretty simple and the other checks are easy to do, and there's a great band of Peugeot diagnostics specialists (my brother is one in Sheffield) who are happy to help.

 

And there are plenty of 207 owners on the forum who haven't had a problem.

 

 

the ELOYS tank is a little tiny container in the rear passenger side wheel arch. It contains a special fluid that is injected into the fuel tank every time you fill up. It makes the fuel burn hotter to burn off the particles trapped in the DPF (diesel particulate filter). If the previous owner has been filling the car up with a tenner here and there all the time, then the fluid level will be low or even empty.

 

It has a few drawbacks though that only appear over time and when the car is long out of warranty, namely:

 

The tank or pouch is in a vulnerable area and can get damaged or punctured by stones or other debris.

 

The electrical connectors to the tank or pouch can get dirt ingress.

 

The little magnetic sensors on the fuel cap (to detect when you're filling up and to add the ELOYS) can fall out, so it doesn't detect a fill up and the filter gets blocked quicker.

 

The glow plugs and glow plug relay need to be in good order. People think that modern cars never use glow plugs - they do when the car is "regenerating" and cleaning the DPF filter.

 

If you don't go to the dealers, you can get the additive filled up yourself really cheaply. You can buy the additive from GSF or Ebay and then get the car's counters reset by anyone with the Peugeot diagnostic equipment (my brother for one).

 

DPFs are just part and parcel of owning a modern diesel, pretty much like a catalytic converter is now accepted. You can get cheap ones from CATS2U. The EGR valve is a little trickier, but you can always blank it off, as many do.

 

Finally, don't forget to make sure you have at least two keys. If there's only one, make sure that the key card (a little credit card with a code number) is present which makes it easy for a replacement to be made much cheaper than the dealers. There's a really good fella in Bradford who specialises in Peugeot keys.

Thanks for all that info, great stuff.most of which i didn't know, very interesting,

I have just been watching videos about topping up the eloys, i had never even heard of them lol

About double mpg.

What are you using for the comparison here? The mpg of diesels is only significantly higher if you are doing motorway, for urban or mixed driving it's no where near double, and diesels driven predominantly on short cities runs inevitably hit problems with the DPF.

About double mpg.

Really? So the OP has bought a Peugeot 207 SW 1.6 HDi S 5dr, 90HP.

62.8–64.2

Official MPG

45.0–66.0

Real MPG

55.7

Real MPG Average

From https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/by-vrm?vrm=KS10KZP

They don't make a high efficiency petrol to compare it to in that model, but this is a 1.4 VTI

47.9

Official MPG

33.2–51.0

Real MPG

43.9

Real MPG Average

The diesel does 25% more MPG. Prices for the fuels are almost identical so that would make the diesel cheaper to run.

Nope, I concede, I thought petrol engines had caught up, but they haven't. And I also thought diesel cost more, but not significantly. Nothing like the double you claimed of course, but a 25% saving. So long as you do enough mileage that will offset the increased purchase cost and maintenance costs.

Really? So the OP has bought a Peugeot 207 SW 1.6 HDi S 5dr, 90HP.

 

62.8–64.2

Official MPG

45.0–66.0

Real MPG

55.7

Real MPG Average

 

From https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/by-vrm?vrm=KS10KZP

 

They don't make a high efficiency petrol to compare it to in that model, but this is a 1.4 VTI

47.9

Official MPG

33.2–51.0

Real MPG

43.9

Real MPG Average

 

The diesel does 25% more MPG. Prices for the fuels are almost identical so that would make the diesel cheaper to run.

 

Nope, I concede, I thought petrol engines had caught up, but they haven't. And I also thought diesel cost more, but not significantly. Nothing like the double you claimed of course, but a 25% saving. So long as you do enough mileage that will offset the increased purchase cost and maintenance costs.

And to be honest, i find the torque from a diesel engine better to drive, imo