Halibut   12 #37 Posted January 3, 2016 Er, some twelve centuries of land law suggest that I'm correct. 'Res nullius' is a concept of only civilian (European-tendency) legal systems.  ---------- Post added 03-01-2016 at 20:06 ----------  Land not registered at HMLR does have an estate owner. Ownership rests on the title deeds. Never heard of 'em?  Despite your flannel, your assertion that 'all land is owned' is self evidently guff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
fatrajah   10 #38 Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) My mother-in-law's house was not registered despite her having lived there since the house was built in 1948. Perhaps there has to be at least one reasonably recent change of ownership for the property to show up in the land registry. Edited January 3, 2016 by fatrajah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclecar   24 #39 Posted January 3, 2016 so if I fence it off and the dog walkers take it down where do I stand then   It depends how big the dog is.............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hogg   10 #40 Posted January 4, 2016 As the OP does not own this land nor have any entitlement to it, and it appears that the land is used by the local community as a public good, it seems to me just plain wrong to fence it off and deny your neighbours access. If this occurred in my area I would get together with my neighbours to challenge your actions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
vincentb   10 #41 Posted January 4, 2016 Despite your flannel, your assertion that 'all land is owned' is self evidently guff.  Nothing about land law is "self-evident". If you learn enough to get a qualification in law, you may just find out that Jeffrey is exactly right here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #42 Posted January 6, 2016 Despite your flannel, your assertion that 'all land is owned' is self evidently guff. Do enlighten us with your own 'evidence', then. Perhaps my 'flannel' has wiped it clean away... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #43 Posted January 10, 2016 See a solicitor would be the route to take, at least then your claim would be legal in the eyes of the law. Angel1.  Having seen a solicitor doesn't make something legal. And conversely, having not seen one, doesn't make a claim for adverse possession somehow less legal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #44 Posted January 14, 2016 Having seen a solicitor doesn't make something legal. And conversely, having not seen one, doesn't make a claim for adverse possession somehow less legal. True. The law is what defines one's entitlement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ricgem2002 Â Â 11 #45 Posted February 21, 2017 looks like i have to fill out an st1 form and a adv1 form to start the ball rolling. i have since found out its 11 years since i enquired about this land have have been maintaining it since then. how longs the process take does anyone know ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #46 Posted February 25, 2017 If the land is registered, the possessory period is 10+2 yrs., i.e. you can apply after occupying it for 10yrs. but the registered proprietor- if he/she raises an objection upheld by HMLR- has to take possession proceedings during the next 2yrs. See Schedule 6 to the Land Registration Act 2002 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/9/schedule/6  If the land is unregistered, the possessory period is 12 yrs.  Either way, the process: a. is slow; b. involves a lot of complex law; and c. is unsuited to a DiY applicant unless you know what you're doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ricgem2002 Â Â 11 #47 Posted February 25, 2017 If the land is registered, the possessory period is 10+2 yrs., i.e. you can apply after occupying it for 10yrs. but the registered proprietor- if he/she raises an objection upheld by HMLR- has to take possession proceedings during the next 2yrs. See Schedule 6 to the Land Registration Act 2002 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/9/schedule/6Â If the land is unregistered, the possessory period is 12 yrs. Â Either way, the process: a. is slow; b. involves a lot of complex law; and c. is unsuited to a DiY applicant unless you know what you're doing. thanks for the information jeffrey the land is unregistred according to the solicitor who dealt with our extension. can you give me a ball park figure in you dealing with this for me send by pm thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onlineo   10 #48 Posted February 26, 2017 As the OP does not own this land nor have any entitlement to it, and it appears that the land is used by the local community as a public good, it seems to me just plain wrong to fence it off and deny your neighbours access. If this occurred in my area I would get together with my neighbours to challenge your actions.  I know this is an old thread but... Seriously why would, you consider blocking your neighbours access to the local woods? I know a lot of selfish people but thankfully I don't know anyone who would stoop this low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...