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15-10-2010, 14:04   #1
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How many people have tried Vicks "First Defence" cold treatment ?
I`ve tried it a few times and sometimes it seems to shorten the cold, other times I`m not so sure. I don`t know if it`s down to the "First Defence" but I have found even if it helps get rid of the cold more quickly I sometimes end up feeling a bit under the weather and with mild cold symptoms for longer.
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15-10-2010, 14:20   #2
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Most cold cures will cure a cold in 7 days.

Alternatively, you can do nothing and it will be better in a week.
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15-10-2010, 14:45   #3
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Like Rupert said, i don't think it does anything.
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15-10-2010, 15:22   #4
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Most cold cures will cure a cold in 7 days.

Alternatively, you can do nothing and it will be better in a week.
When I get a cold it gradually gets worse for a few days, I feel pretty ropey for a day or two, then it slowly clears over the next 4 or 5 days.
I don`t feel like I can train (swimming) during that time, plus I feel crap.
Some people think colds are "just a minor inconvenience", in fact I read that in The Times once. I was livid. I hate getting a cold.
Let`s face it, most people get a cold or two per year for their entire life, and that`s every single person in this country.
If someone told you you`d got an illness which would make you feel crap for about 200 days (70 years at 1.5 colds a year, feeling crap for 2 days) "but don`t worry, it`s only a minor inconvenience" you`d probably feel like punching him, I know I would !
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15-10-2010, 15:29   #5
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For males, colds are A LIFE-THREATENING MAJOR MEDICAL DISASTER!

It's a virus, there is no preventative vaccination, you just have to survive ...somehow.

If one of the vast range of cold medications on the market alleviates your symptoms, go for it.

I suspect a lot of people have made huge sums of money from cold cures.
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15-10-2010, 16:19   #6
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If one of the vast range of cold medications on the market alleviates your symptoms, go for it.

I suspect a lot of people have made huge sums of money from cold cures.
Messrs Bell, Haig and Walker have made a lot of money out of me over the years with their patented cure for a cold

I find that if I self medicate sufficient quantities the cold hardly seems to last any time at all
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15-10-2010, 16:22   #7
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1081226.ece

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The product does not qualify as a medicine but as a medical device, which means that P&G has not had to carry out extensive trials.

But it has done some unpublished research, which Professor Eccles says that he has seen and finds persuasive. In one trial, 70 healthy volunteers were dosed with a rhinovirus that causes a cold. Among those treated with a placebo, 79 per cent developed a cold, whereas 57 per cent of those treated with First Defence did. First Defence also reduced the severity of symptoms.

In a second trial on 400 volunteers, it was tested against naturally acquired colds. The volunteers were asked to start their treatment four times a day as soon as they experienced cold symptoms. Those using First Defence recovered in an average of 6.1 days, compared with 7.2 days for those using a placebo and 8.9 days for those taking no treatment. Although this is far from a cure, it is an improvement that may justify the 6.99 that the treatment will cost.
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17-10-2010, 09:48   #8
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Well I`m hammering "First Defence" at the moment beacuse the wife`s got a cold and I`d really rather not get it ! So we`ll see if I actually catch it. The thing is, as with much medical research, if I don`t end up with a cold, you don`t now for sure if the same outcome would have happened without using "First Defence".
If I do get a full blown cold it definitely hasn`t worked though !
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18-10-2010, 08:52   #9
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I use first defence now and then and it seems to do the trick, i've had the start of a few this year and they've cleared up. but it's horrible stuff, it feels like its melting your brain! I used to have a constant cold when I was a kid. Now I get about one a year thank god but they are a nightmare to shift. I never can get rid of the snot and my ears fill up. Last year I got glue ear. Six weeks I had that cold! I think colds are underrated.
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19-10-2010, 12:59   #10
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If you think it works, it does. If you think it doesn't work, it doesn't.
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19-10-2010, 13:18   #11
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I think some people have home remedies that make them feel better, but as far as I'm aware there's nothing that will get rid of a cold quicker than your own immune system. Steaming helps me with menthol crystels to keep me from getting all blocked up.
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19-10-2010, 13:35   #12
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I think that there's a good possibility that if you have some of this stuff to hand and use it assiduously when you think you may have been infected then it should reduce the symptoms, severity of the cold and the duration of the symptoms, at least a bit.

However, in order for this to work we all have to have spent the 4.77 (current Tesco price 19/10/10) to have a pack of this stuff sitting in our cupboard waiting for the time to be used...
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24-01-2013, 09:20   #13
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I`m not sure about First Defence, when I seem to use it it does seem to prevent the cold getting really bad, but it seems to drag on for longer and/or give me other symptoms of a mild cold. I find the same with using Echinacea. Has anyone else found this ?
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24-01-2013, 10:44   #14
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I used to get 3 or four colds a year. One in mid September, one sometime in November, one just before or over Christmas and one late January/early February. Occasionally I would get another in early spring. I put this down to working in a place full of snotty teenagers.

I've been using First Defence for the past three years and have not had a full blown cold since I started. I've had my usual early symptom of a wet, snotty, slightly sore feeling at the back of my soft palate but it has not developed into the sore throat & blocked nose nightmare since I started with the FD.

There may be a connection.
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24-01-2013, 10:47   #15
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There's no cure for the common cold, if there was you wouldn't be able to move for companies trying to shove it down your throat.

The only treatment is the usual headache tablets, decongestants and caffeine.
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I used to get 3 or four colds a year. One in mid September, one sometime in November, one just before or over Christmas and one late January/early February. Occasionally I would get another in early spring. I put this down to working in a place full of snotty teenagers.

I've been using First Defence for the past three years and have not had a full blown cold since I started. I've had my usual early symptom of a wet, snotty, slightly sore feeling at the back of my soft palate but it has not developed into the sore throat & blocked nose nightmare since I started with the FD.

There may be a connection.
That`s good news for cold sufferers. Did you find that you suffered from what I can only call a "dodgy nose" for a week or more each time you used the First Defence ?
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25-01-2013, 09:27   #17
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In my experience, yes, if you use them as soon as you suspect you might be coming down with a cold.
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25-01-2013, 09:45   #18
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Zinc tablets and orange juice are the best ways to combat the common cold.
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That`s good news for cold sufferers. Did you find that you suffered from what I can only call a "dodgy nose" for a week or more each time you used the First Defence ?
Not for that long but there's a definite "wetness" for a while after snorting the stuff. More in the back of the tract than in the nose itself.

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There's no cure for the common cold, if there was you wouldn't be able to move for companies trying to shove it down your throat.

First Defence isn't a cure for the common cold.
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A friend of mine swears by "First Defence", he says if he ever goes out where anyone might have a cold he uses it when he gets home and hardly ever gets a cold now. I can`t really try that because we have a young son who gets colds regularly, thus we`d have to use First Defence almost every day !

However, there are times I really don`t want a cold, like when we go on holiday and I want to get loads of swimming done, so I then use First Defence every day for a week before and for the period of the holiday, it might have helped. But, I have found on more than one occasion doing this that I may no get a significant cold, but I then seem to suffer from cold like symptoms for quite some time afterwards, longer than the cold would have lasted ! Has anyone else found this ?
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