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28-11-2016, 11:24   #1
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Maybe legal action, hopefully not but I need to make Rotherham hospital do their job. My son has been in constant pain for 7 weeks, dropped almost 2 stone in weight ans has not kept a meal down for over a month.
The hospital have run some tests then sent him home with instructions to go back to the GP. My son was in so much pain he had to go back, was made to wait a total of 13 hours in the waiting room then sent back home. We went back again and we demanded they do something so they admitted him, sent him home after one night with super strength painkillers that simply do not touch the pain (we are talking morphine here) and now we are having to take him back to the A and E as the pain is getting worse and worse.
I need to hospital to do their job and find out what is going on. How can I make them?
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28-11-2016, 11:31   #2
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Maybe legal action, hopefully not but I need to make Rotherham hospital do their job. My son has been in constant pain for 7 weeks, dropped almost 2 stone in weight ans has not kept a meal down for over a month.
The hospital have run some tests then sent him home with instructions to go back to the GP. My son was in so much pain he had to go back, was made to wait a total of 13 hours in the waiting room then sent back home. We went back again and we demanded they do something so they admitted him, sent him home after one night with super strength painkillers that simply do not touch the pain (we are talking morphine here) and now we are having to take him back to the A and E as the pain is getting worse and worse.
I need to hospital to do their job and find out what is going on. How can I make them?
Take him to a different hospital.
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28-11-2016, 11:32   #3
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It might be worth contacting their Patient advice and liaison service
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28-11-2016, 11:37   #4
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If your son is under 16 take him to Sheffield Children's Hospital
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28-11-2016, 11:42   #5
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Until you find them to be negligent, you cant take any action against them.
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28-11-2016, 12:17   #6
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It might be worth contacting their Patient advice and liaison service
But bear in mind their reason for existing is to cover the hospitals back, not to help patients. Theyll listen but thats about it.
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28-11-2016, 12:23   #7
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Have you taken him to the GP? An emergency dept will treat the symptoms and get him stable but if he needs a referral to a specialist then the route is via the GP.
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28-11-2016, 12:41   #8
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if he"s in that much pain surely its a 999 job.ambulance let them sort it.
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28-11-2016, 12:44   #9
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if he"s in that much pain surely its a 999 job.ambulance let them sort it.
Thats how he got to A and E today. By ambulance

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Have you taken him to the GP? An emergency dept will treat the symptoms and get him stable but if he needs a referral to a specialist then the route is via the GP.
The GP has referred him to tests, however these are in 6 weeks time. He needs them now but apparently the GP is unable to hurry the process up or prescribe anything strong enough to tackle the pain

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If your son is under 16 take him to Sheffield Children's Hospital
He is 18
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28-11-2016, 13:12   #10
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if he wasn't in such a bad way id suggest changing gp surgeries, but maybe your present gp might be more receptive now your sons been to a&e.

you could allways call your gp and ask for an home visit if you think your son is really ill. I know the gps in sheffield can refer you to the northern general hospital amu unit for immediate admission, must be something similar in rotherham.

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28-11-2016, 13:44   #11
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Has anybody (be it he GP or the hospital) run any tests to rule anything out? Can they say what it isnt?
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28-11-2016, 14:38   #12
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Do you know where he's going for his tests yet? If you've had the referral but are waiting for an appointment, try ringing them and asking (nicely!!) to be notified of possible for cancellations or short noticed appointments.
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28-11-2016, 14:38   #13
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Change hospitals like i said. Go to the Northern. I found Rotherham hospital useless!
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28-11-2016, 15:55   #14
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Do you know where he's going for his tests yet? If you've had the referral but are waiting for an appointment, try ringing them and asking (nicely!!) to be notified of possible for cancellations or short noticed appointments.
The wife did this when she was told it was around 6 weeks, /so far no cancellations but she kept trying. During this time my son got worse to the point he was admitted last friday, they took some bloods and sent him home saturday still in pain despite neither morphine nor tramadol easing the pain. Ive been told he has now being readmitted and as yet the only thing they have don e is take more bloods. Oh they did give him a paracetamol though
The wife says hes getting worse, shes frantic, and the nurses dont give a toss. Neither do the doctors, i mean they cant give a toss, he has been in severe pain for over a month now. The wife has now said she is NOT leaving the hospital until they find out whats wrong and treat it.

Someone mentioned trying the NGH. We did this last week but apparently they dont talk to rotherham hospital so dont know what they did so they sent him home with instructions to see the GP. We did this and thats how we got to where we are now.

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28-11-2016, 16:25   #15
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28-11-2016, 17:21   #16
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if he"s in that much pain surely its a 999 job.ambulance let them sort it.
If its been going on for seven weeks why on earth does it require an ambulance?
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28-11-2016, 20:52   #17
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skip out patients. ring an ambulance.
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28-11-2016, 21:36   #18
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skip out patients. ring an ambulance.
Why?
Is he dying. Has his head fallen off. Is he gushing blood. What the hell does he need an ambulance for.

The OP has already said this has been going on for weeks. What is the emergency exactly? Why does he get priority over someone else whom a MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL deems is more urgent.

Yes he is in severe pain. Yes that is clearly distressing and upsettng for all involved, but perhaps, just perhaps there is simply nothing further they can do right now.

From what I read I would strongly argue that the hospital and doctors do "give a toss". In fact they have taken many steps in this 7 week period. There has been GP attendances and referrals, he has been admitted for previous overnight admission, they have already done some tests and provided medication, He has returned for further examination and had alternative medication provided. Now we have arrangements for more testing which will take place in due course.

All well and good people mouthing off saying "not leaving hospital until they find out what's wrong and treat it" but this is the real world. It doesn't work like that. They dont wave a magic wand and make people better. Diagnosis and treatment can take time.

I am not unsympathetic that he is clearly in pain at home but what on earth would lying in a hospital bed in pain do to improve the situation. This is a hospital bed which some other patient with more pressing need will be denied.

If the OP really wants these tests NOW as they said, they can go privately and get them. Until then, the NHS is as it is, the doctors are doing what their skills and experience tell them to do on the patient, and they are just going to have to make the situation best as possible and await the further proposed diagnostics and treatment.

He has not been denied treatment. He has not been misdiagnosed. He has not been negligently treated. What exactly is the legal action the OP seeks here.

Clearly there is no idea as to the test that needs to be established to prove negligence nor the hurdles to be overcome. Bottom line is, would another doctor faced with the same symptoms do anything different to that which has already been done? Perhaps they need to find out about that.

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28-11-2016, 21:44   #19
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Have to agree with eccoonoob on this one.

In this situation it is the GP and the Drs who have seen him at A&E who a ones in the superior position. You can ask them if there is a delay or why they have chosen to take the actions they have, to better understand what they are looking for. If they say they cnat do anything without the test results, but dont feel they are an emergency then you can decide to pay for them yourself and ask if that would help. If not you will need to wait in line along with everyone else.

I might try and get a second opinion or look it up myself, but mostly I would have to wait if it were me and trust the Drs to do the job they were trained for. If things deteriorated I would be straight back to A&E.
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28-11-2016, 21:54   #20
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Ive been told he has now being readmitted and as yet the only thing they have don e is take more bloods. Oh they did give him a paracetamol though
The wife says hes getting worse, shes frantic, and the nurses dont give a toss. Neither do the doctors, i mean they cant give a toss, he has been in severe pain for over a month now. The wife has now said she is NOT leaving the hospital until they find out whats wrong and treat it.

Someone mentioned trying the NGH. We did this last week but apparently they dont talk to rotherham hospital so dont know what they did so they sent him home with instructions to see the GP. We did this and thats how we got to where we are now.

Thanks for the replies everyone. Its much appreciated.

if I read it correctly the son has been readmitted to hospital.
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