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09-11-2016, 14:49   #21
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I think you did. Trump got voted in by cleverly portraying himself as anti establishment and "for" the working man. We`ll pass on how thick so many Americans must be to fall for that one, and concentrate on the fact he appealed to the working classes in particular by promising to introduce tariffs to protect their jobs. Almost by definition, if he`s not going to introduce tariffs on British goods it can only be because there won`t be much of an effect on American jobs by not doing so, due to the fact there won`t be much stuff imported. Either that or he`s just as duplicitous as most other politicians.
I think you have your answer right there.
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09-11-2016, 14:50   #22
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Post Brexit Britain has a friend in Trump, whereas it wouldn't have under Hillary Clinton.
With friends like that.......

Trump is selfish, both for himself and his country. He made no bones about the latter in his campaign, in fact that was his campaign. A friend worth having ? What`s your definition of a friend ?
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09-11-2016, 14:57   #23
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With friends like that.......

Trump is selfish, both for himself and his country. He made no bones about the latter in his campaign, in fact that was his campaign. A friend worth having ? What`s your definition of a friend ?
I'm looking at your avatar picture, really you ought to move on from that Brexit campaign, it'll eat you up.
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09-11-2016, 15:05   #24
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Post Brexit Britain has a friend in Trump, whereas it wouldn't have under Hillary Clinton.
Don't fool yourself. Trump doesn't have friends. He divides the world into three:

1. Those who will help his aims. They are the wonderful wonderful people.

2. Those who will challenge him. They are evil nasty disgusting people.

3. Pussy.

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I'm looking at your avatar picture, really you ought to move on from that Brexit campaign, it'll eat you up.
When Blair et al managed to deceive enough of the country with a pack of lies for the Iraq invasion, it lingered until we had closure from the Chilcott Report over a decade later.

Ultimately it's Blair whose eaten up from within. But the region continues to pay a heavy price, with Isis moving into the vacuum and creating a refugee crisis.

Let's not make important decisions on the back of a pack of lies again.
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09-11-2016, 15:21   #25
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Don't fool yourself. Trump doesn't have friends. He divides the world into three:

1. Those who will help his aims. They are the wonderful wonderful people.

2. Those who will challenge him. They are evil nasty disgusting people.

3. Pussy.

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When Blair et al managed to deceive enough of the country with a pack of lies for the Iraq invasion, it lingered until we had closure from the Chilcott Report over a decade later.

Ultimately it's Blair whose eaten up from within. But the region continues to pay a heavy price, with Isis moving into the vacuum and creating a refugee crisis.

Let's not make important decisions on the back of a pack of lies again.
The remain campaign was full of lies too= http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/matt..._12191462.html
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09-11-2016, 15:39   #26
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Don't fool yourself. Trump doesn't have friends. He divides the world into three:

1. Those who will help his aims. They are the wonderful wonderful people.

2. Those who will challenge him. They are evil nasty disgusting people.

3. Pussy.

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When Blair et al managed to deceive enough of the country with a pack of lies for the Iraq invasion, it lingered until we had closure from the Chilcott Report over a decade later.

Ultimately it's Blair whose eaten up from within. But the region continues to pay a heavy price, with Isis moving into the vacuum and creating a refugee crisis.

Let's not make important decisions on the back of a pack of lies again.
I dont think Brexit is quite the same as Iraq
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09-11-2016, 15:44   #27
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The remain campaign was full of lies too= http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/matt..._12191462.html
Haven`t you already posted that, it`s a bit tendentious isn`t it ? And anyway, we haven`t actually left the EU yet.....

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I dont think Brexit is quite the same as Iraq
For Iraq or for Britain ?
It`s worse for Britain.
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09-11-2016, 20:59   #28
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Well at least the remoaners can now moan about Trump and give us a break from their whineing.Well done Don, your going to need some bricklayers to build your wall there are plenty of good ones over here.
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09-11-2016, 21:07   #29
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How will the Trump presidency affect BREXIT ?

Answer - The UK will be at the front of the queue.

Bye bye Obama.
Spot on ..........
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09-11-2016, 21:10   #30
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OMG he only won the populist vote by around 1%, that less than brexit, some on here will be calling for a re run. Oh its in American and they already seem to be accepting it
Apart from CNN who swear blind Trump won because Putin messed with their election
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09-11-2016, 21:14   #31
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Apart from CNN who swear blind Trump won because Putin messed with their election
Not as daft as claiming the whole system was rigged which Trump did loudly and often. Yet he won. Bigly. Or big league depending on who you ask.

Those pesky establishment election riggers ought to be sacked. Whoever they are.
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09-11-2016, 21:14   #32
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Give it a rest now as the same line over and over is getting boring now.
I see you don't bring up the lies that the remain side told, you remainers need to look in the mirror= http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/matt..._12191462.html
Us "remainers" will stop complaining when the 350 million a week gets spent on the NHS as promised.

As for the implicit denigration of "remainers" as being someone tiresome that you'd rather not deal with be careful of where that leads you.
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09-11-2016, 21:16   #33
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OMG he only won the populist vote by around 1%, that less than brexit, some on here will be calling for a re run. Oh its in American and they already seem to be accepting it
He actually is losing the popular vote.

With 99% of votes counted, Hillary Clinton has 59,680,006 votes. Donald Trump has 59,479,105 votes.

Clinton therefore has more of the popular vote than Trump.

(As did Al Gore when he lost against Bush Jr in 2000)
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09-11-2016, 21:20   #34
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How will the Trump presidency affect BREXIT ?

Answer - The UK will be at the front of the queue.
do we want to be though?

given his very public statements about returning and retaining US jobs then he can hardly sign a deal which would encourage jobs to flow from the US to the UK, though he might like one which pulls jobs the other way.

on that basis i'm sure he would like a deal which encouraged us to by US produced goods rather than home produced ones

and finally, most of the things which got people so excited by the TTIP are pretty standard in all trade deals so all those concerns will still be there.
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09-11-2016, 21:28   #35
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do we want to be though?

given his very public statements about returning and retaining US jobs then he can hardly sign a deal which would encourage jobs to flow from the US to the UK, though he might like one which pulls jobs the other way.

on that basis i'm sure he would like a deal which encouraged us to by US produced goods rather than home produced ones

and finally, most of the things which got people so excited by the TTIP are pretty standard in all trade deals so all those concerns will still be there.
It's a non brainer that being at the front of the queue for anything is better than being at the back of the queue.
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It's a non brainer that being at the front of the queue for anything is better than being at the back of the queue.
It certainly is, especially when dealing with a new President who wants to re-introduce trade tariffs to protect US jobs over foreign jobs when your key-economy is international finance which is already under pressure from a potential loss of passporting.

Keep cheering, the world is changing!
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09-11-2016, 22:17   #37
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It certainly is, especially when dealing with a new President who wants to re-introduce trade tariffs to protect US jobs over foreign jobs when your key-economy is international finance which is already under pressure from a potential loss of passporting.

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I keep cheering because my glass is always half full
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09-11-2016, 22:50   #38
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Haven`t you already posted that, it`s a bit tendentious isn`t it ? And anyway, we haven`t actually left the EU yet.....

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For Iraq or for Britain ?
It`s worse for Britain.
how is brexit worse for Britain
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09-11-2016, 22:51   #39
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I think every single one of us will be dead by Christmas 2017

So its fair to say I'm not overly hopeful for the long term
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09-11-2016, 22:56   #40
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I think every single one of us will be dead by Christmas 2017

So its fair to say I'm not overly hopeful for the long term
I guess your glass is less than half empty
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