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03-01-2017, 21:34   #1
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just had an operation at the northern general hospital, as part of the recovery I was put on self administered pain relief.
As a side effect of the drug I started to have hallucinations including insects crawling up an opposite wall, the implements on a drip stand sliding down but never actually moving and best or worst of all I was convinced I was living in a hippy commune and the nurses were other members of the sect.
The last time I had this sort of pain relief was over twenty years ago and it went without any problems has anyone else experienced problems with this treatment?
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03-01-2017, 21:49   #2
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Is there codeine in the medication?
It sounds like a bad reaction common to codeine.
Speak to the hospital and ask for something else.
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You have not said what drug it is. also if you have problems with any drug you should ask to speak to a pain relief specialist.
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Is there codeine in the medication?
It sounds like a bad reaction common to codeine.
Speak to the hospital and ask for something else.
I insisted they take me off the drug and just had oral tablets, no more problem's after that I am recovering at home now.

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You have not said what drug it is. also if you have problems with any drug you should ask to speak to a pain relief specialist.
I was too spaced out to ask them .

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03-01-2017, 22:08   #5
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Was it the morphine drip feed choogling, the one you press when you feel the pain? I know it makes you see strange things but I didn't mind as long as the pain went.I hope you make a quick recovery and are ok.

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I insisted they take me off the drug and just had oral tablets, no more problem's after that I am recovering at home now.

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I was too spaced out to ask them .
Glad you are at home and hope your recovery is going well.
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Was it the morphine drip feed choogling, the one you press when you feel the pain? I know it makes you see strange things but I didn't mind as long as the pain went.I hope you make a quick recovery and are ok.
don't know what the drug was but the side effects were so real to me at the time
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don't know what the drug was but the side effects were so real to me at the time
It would be a good thing for the future if you can have it confirmed from your notes at a future check up appointment, in order that you can avoid that drug or related ones.

I am dreadfully intolerant to opiates and although I had previously had a bad reaction to co-dydramol I wasn't aware that opiate intolerance is a real thing for many people and thus allowed myself to be put on a morphine PCA when I went in hospital for my tumour removal.

I woke up in intensive care with nurses telling me to push the button, but when I did, 1mg of morphine was sufficient to make me projectile vomit into my oxygen mask for an hour, but wasn't enough to actually treat any of the pain. As I'd vomited the staff would come to remove the oxygen mask because I was choking and clean me up, and because they had to move me they kept telling me to press the button again, which resulted in further vomiting and repeated problems.

After one night I insisted that they remove the PCA and was told that I was being silly and they wouldn't allow me any other painkillers if I wasn't going to take it properly. To be honest, I was feeling so dreadful that I'd rather just have the pain than the pain, nausea and all of the muscle aches from retching for 12 straight hours.

If you, like me, are opiate intolerant, there are alternative medications if you know that they are available and know who to talk to, in the event that you end up in need of heavy duty medication for post-operative medication or similar in the future. Knowing what it was that made you feel so dreadful is the start of making an alternative plan
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Sounds like you had a brilliant time Choogling, I'm not sure why you're complaining?
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04-01-2017, 18:17   #10
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Medusa, just like yourself, Morphine always makes me sick. So I always inform hospital staff whenever I'm in hospital.

Choogling, hope you're recovering well now you're home.
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It would be a good thing for the future if you can have it confirmed from your notes at a future check up appointment, in order that you can avoid that drug or related ones.

I am dreadfully intolerant to opiates and although I had previously had a bad reaction to co-dydramol I wasn't aware that opiate intolerance is a real thing for many people and thus allowed myself to be put on a morphine PCA when I went in hospital for my tumour removal.

I woke up in intensive care with nurses telling me to push the button, but when I did, 1mg of morphine was sufficient to make me projectile vomit into my oxygen mask for an hour, but wasn't enough to actually treat any of the pain. As I'd vomited the staff would come to remove the oxygen mask because I was choking and clean me up, and because they had to move me they kept telling me to press the button again, which resulted in further vomiting and repeated problems.

After one night I insisted that they remove the PCA and was told that I was being silly and they wouldn't allow me any other painkillers if I wasn't going to take it properly. To be honest, I was feeling so dreadful that I'd rather just have the pain than the pain, nausea and all of the muscle aches from retching for 12 straight hours.

If you, like me, are opiate intolerant, there are alternative medications if you know that they are available and know who to talk to, in the event that you end up in need of heavy duty medication for post-operative medication or similar in the future. Knowing what it was that made you feel so dreadful is the start of making an alternative plan
I have a follow up booked in February I will ask to see any notes the staff made while I was under the influence of these mind bending drugs.

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Sounds like you had a brilliant time Choogling, I'm not sure why you're complaining?
I don't think you would be calling my experience brilliant if you had gone through it.
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04-01-2017, 22:26   #12
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You won't be able to look at your notes but you can ask the staff at your appointment which drugs you were give to work out which one made you feel ill so you can avoid them in the future.
Glad you are home and recovering.
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You won't be able to look at your notes but you can ask the staff at your appointment which drugs you were give to work out which one made you feel ill so you can avoid them in the future.
choogling could also use the quicker and easier route and ask his/her GP as they should have also received a record of what was given or can check with the hospital directly. Telling the GP is also a good idea so that this is recorded on their notes for future reference.
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05-01-2017, 00:07   #14
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make sure they never give you Haldol if you are having morphine and have a bad heart or an electrolyte imbalance that's if you want to live.
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choogling could also use the quicker and easier route and ask his/her GP as they should have also received a record of what was given or can check with the hospital directly. Telling the GP is also a good idea so that this is recorded on their notes for future reference.
The edischarge letter to the GP will not have details of every medication that has been given during the hospital admission and any adverse reactions may not routinely be documented in that discharge letter.
The best course would be for the OP to ask at the next hospital outpatients appointment when the hospital notes are in front of the doctor.

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make sure they never give you Haldol if you are having morphine and have a bad heart or an electrolyte imbalance that's if you want to live.
Do you mean Haloperidol ?
Where did you get this information from ?
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The edischarge letter to the GP will not have details of every medication that has been given during the hospital admission and any adverse reactions may not routinely be documented in that discharge letter.
The best course would be for the OP to ask at the next hospital outpatients appointment when the hospital notes are in front of the doctor.
Maybe so but it is still in his best interests to inform the doctor ASAP.
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06-01-2017, 16:32   #17
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just had an operation at the northern general hospital, as part of the recovery I was put on self administered pain relief.
As a side effect of the drug I started to have hallucinations including insects crawling up an opposite wall, the implements on a drip stand sliding down but never actually moving and best or worst of all I was convinced I was living in a hippy commune and the nurses were other members of the sect.
The last time I had this sort of pain relief was over twenty years ago and it went without any problems has anyone else experienced problems with this treatment?
I vomited and hallucinated when I was given morphine for appendicitis, and it does all seem so very very real. I can still remember my hallucinations now and my sister in law told me that she could see in my face that I was having horrible experiences (on top of the appendicitis itself), so an operation following that I made sure I told the staff of my reaction to opiates and was given alternative pain relief and thankfully have never been through it again. I have every sympathy for you!
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Maybe so but it is still in his best interests to inform the doctor ASAP.
Inform the doctor of what since the OP does not know what drug had an adverse effect.
The OP should ask the doctor at the hospital what drugs he was given post op to identify the possible drug which should be avoided in the future..
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Inform the doctor of what since the OP does not know what drug had an adverse effect.
The OP should ask the doctor at the hospital what drugs he was given post op to identify the possible drug which should be avoided in the future..
In any case of a bad reaction to a drug whether administered by a hospital, GP or over the counter medicine the first port of call should always be your own GP as soon as possible as that is normally the quickest and safest route. In the case of a hospital administered drug, even if unknown by the patient, the GP should be told and they should then get in touch with the hospital and consultant in charge. That then is then recorded and put on a database of listed reactions to drugs and is also recorded on the GP's patient notes.

It is never a good idea to delay.
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Do you mean Haloperidol ?
Where did you get this information from ?
yes lots of information if you look for it about that drug. here's one there's many others http://www.btpnews.com/article/2007/...th-Haloperidol

seems to be the go to drug for use as an anti sickness adjunct alongside morphine for palliative care patients amongst other things.
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