Hairyloon   10 #13 Posted May 22, 2017 Of all the things to regret, FOI??? Very odd indeed.  It opened the window on MP's expenses... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
glennpickard   10 #14 Posted May 22, 2017 keep in mind the "Electoral College" in the US. It is an outdated system that gives voting weight to smaller states and reduces the voting power of larger ones. This is the reason Trump is in the Whlte House today and not Hillary Clinton, she received three million more "Popular" votes than he did. Also some in the US criticize the two terms only for Presidents. They say should three/more terms be allowed then it is highly likely that Obama would have won a third term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ez8004   10 #15 Posted May 23, 2017 Theirs too much when it suits them like calling snap elections because they can. Most counties have a constitution why not UK? ---------- Post added 22-05-2017 at 18:17 ----------   No it does not work ' fine' it is out of date we are in the 21st century not the 19th.  ---------- Post added 22-05-2017 at 18:20 ----------   A Federal constitution would work in the UK a lot of counties have this system like Germany and the United States the UK undergoing a lot of change the time is right.  Using the ability to call a snap election as an issue is a REALLY stupid example. If you knew what is required to call a snap election, then you would know that there are provisions in place to prevent one from happening.  Why is a federal constitution required when our government isn't based on a federal model?  Do a bit more research please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
crookedspire   10 #16 Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) Using the ability to call a snap election as an issue is a REALLY stupid example. If you knew what is required to call a snap election, then you would know that there are provisions in place to prevent one from happening. Why is a federal constitution required when our government isn't based on a federal model?  Do a bit more research please.  That's​ strange this election was not due until 2020 it was Cameron who brought in the Fixed Term Parliament Act . Theirs no snap Presidential elections in America because the Constitution prevents that the terms are fixed for four years . The UK system is in need of reform to make it more fairer to serve the few. On your last statement theirs no need to be rude thank you. Edited May 23, 2017 by esme quote tags Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #17 Posted May 24, 2017 There's a very good basic reason why the UK's constitution is unwritten. You see, no Parliament can bind its successors. Even an Act saying that a (current) Parliament can bind its successors would not bind its successors; it could be simply repealed. The same would be true of a written constitution- it could only ever be introduced by an Act. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Obelix   11 #18 Posted May 24, 2017 There's a very good basic reason why the UK's constitution is unwritten. You see, no Parliament can bind its successors. Even an Act saying that a (current) Parliament can bind its successors would not bind its successors; it could be simply repealed. The same would be true of a written constitution- it could only ever be introduced by an Act.  Curiously that fact is established by an Act of parliament. If the Bill of right was repealed, what then.....? The monarch is no longer subordinate to Parliament so you could then impose a constitution.... and then reintroduce a Bill of right acknowledging it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #19 Posted May 24, 2017 Curiously that fact is established by an Act of parliament. If the Bill of right was repealed, what then.....? The monarch is no longer subordinate to Parliament so you could then impose a constitution.... and then reintroduce a Bill of right acknowledging it. Even if you were correct, that's just not going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Obelix   11 #20 Posted May 24, 2017 Oh naturally it's very unlikely to happen but as a thought experiment why would it not work? This came from an old school civics class where it was invited to propose how the UK could become a republic and it was rather interesting watching 800 years of legal stuimbling blocks pop up their ugly heads... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg   11 #21 Posted May 24, 2017 Oh naturally it's very unlikely to happen but as a thought experiment why would it not work? This came from an old school civics class where it was invited to propose how the UK could become a republic and it was rather interesting watching 800 years of legal stuimbling blocks pop up their ugly heads...  i dont know if it is that unlikely.  the average person in the street probably wont care and never will, but some people do an a proper, reasonably well thought out constitution leading to some sort of federal uk might just keep the union together.  we wouldn't even need to become a republic, english monarchs have recognised the limitations placed on their ability to exercise absolute power for at least the last 600 years and those who tried to overstep the boundaries encountered some problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #22 Posted May 30, 2017 english monarchs have recognised the limitations placed on their ability to exercise absolute power for at least the last 600 years and those who tried to overstep the boundaries encountered some problems. And British monarchs. That there is a monarch over the political system is itself a partial limit on parliamentary unlawfulness. No giving of Royal Assent = not a law (so far as concerns statutes, at least). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...