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Despite the articles length and criticisms of the EU no where does it back up the claim you originally provided that the EU is a product of designed deception.

 

You are now moving the goal posts.

 

I have consistently said I don't support any party so you are now resorting to lieing about me, along with compounding your attack on UAF with an unsubstantiated statement. Perhaps you can provide a link to a representative of UAF advocating violence? Except you can't otherwise you will have done so before. Instead you will no doubt respond with some examples of crowd behaviour at a UAF demo, very good but it doesn't actually substantiate what you have said. Nor does it justify you sidetracking the debate because I have pointed out you are misrepresenting your sources to make an illegitimate point.

 

So now you are trying to turn it into an argument, just admit your wrong, you are the one who brought political parties into the fore with your slur

 

"You think they make your beloved BNP look good"

 

You moved the goalposts with your first answer to my post, now youre just wriggling, and i'm laughing at you, as usual, want to borrow a shovel.

 

Now was that a UAF thug who was being restrained on the floor by the police at the Manchester protest.

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So now you are trying to turn it into an argument, just admit your wrong, you are the one who brought political parties into the fore with your slur

 

"You think they make your beloved BNP look good"

 

You moved the goalposts with your first answer to my post, now youre just wriggling, and i'm laughing at you, as usual, want to borrow a shovel.

 

Now was that a UAF thug who was being restrained on the floor by the police at the Manchester protest.

 

reptep dude, you're spluttering!

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So now you are trying to turn it into an argument, just admit your wrong, you are the one who brought political parties into the fore with your slur

 

"You think they make your beloved BNP look good"

 

'They' being UAF, that you introduced. If you are going to try to sidestep an issue bringing UAF in to it, expect me to mention the BNP.

 

You moved the goalposts with your first answer to my post, now youre just wriggling, and i'm laughing at you, as usual, want to borrow a shovel.

 

:hihi:

 

Now was that a UAF thug who was being restrained on the floor by the police at the Manchester protest.

 

 

:D

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'They' being UAF, that you introduced. If you are going to try to sidestep an issue bringing UAF in to it, expect me to mention the BNP.

 

 

 

:hihi:

 

 

 

 

:D

 

Tying to hide the UAF thugs under a BNP blanket wont wash, here you go 35 seconds in,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8300431.stm

 

I'm still laughing, your attempts at googling are getting frantic.:hihi:

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reptep dude, you're spluttering!

 

Not as much as you you cant even get my name right, must be the dodgy gear your using.

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Not as much as you you cant even get my name right, must be the dodgy gear your using.

Spelling flame: last refuge of the mentally incontinent ;)

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Spelling flame: last refuge of the mentally incontinent ;)

 

Sh-te retort: last resort from the weak in the head.;) you really must try harder.

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Tying to hide the UAF thugs under a BNP blanket wont wash, here you go 35 seconds in,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8300431.stm

 

I'm still laughing, your attempts at googling are getting frantic.:hihi:

 

Looking back at their origins we know they are not interested in peaceful protest. Their origins come from trying to transform genuine protests in favour of our troops in to a fascist parade.

 

As the original organiser put it :

 

“How do people make the link between respecting our troops and a fascist parade? It’s pitiful. We had invited people from all corners of the community. Including Muslim leaders. These people call themselves patriotic and proud to be British but I wonder what they have ever really done for our country? It makes me sad that they seem to have a copyright on the Union Jack. If they want to come to Luton to have a fight they need to have a look at their sad lives.”

 

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/news/article/1151/Anti-fascist-alliance-keeps-far-right-crusader-at-bay

 

Who are EDL?

 

Tommy Robinson: Robinson – the name is a pseudonym – is from Luton and has emerged as the leader of the EDL in recent weeks. Close to Alan Lake, Robinson, 28, claims to be a carpenter and father of two. He established the United People of Luton to counter the protest of a group of Muslim anti-war protesters at the home of soldiers from the Anglian Regiment.

 

Jeff Marsh: A 44-year-old convicted football hooligan from Barry, South Wales, Marsh is a Cardiff supporter and has been jailed three times for violence, including a two-year sentence for stabbing two Manchester United fans. He claims to have a degree in criminal justice and has written a book on Welsh hooliganism. He set up the English and Welsh Defence League but appears to be less influential in the current EDL. He attended the protest in Birmingham.

 

Chris Renton: A BNP activist from Weston-super-Mare, Renton helped set up the EDL website. When his political links to the BNP emerged the EDL publicly distanced itself from him but he remains an important player behind the scenes. He attended the recent Birmingham protest. His brother is also involved.

 

Leisha Brooks: From Southend, Brooks appeared to play an organising role in the Birmingham demonstration, though she did have a pair of knuckledusters confiscated by police on the day. She is friendly with underworld figures such as Dave Courtney, Carlton Leech and Mitch Pyle, son of the gangster Joey Pyle, and also knows Jason Marriner, a Chelsea Headhunter hooligan made famous by the television documentary series, MacIntyre Undercover.

 

Trevor Kelway: A Portsmouth-based EDL supporter, Kelway has become a spokesperson for the EDL. In interviews to the press he has pursued the line that the EDL was a peaceful, non-racist organisation. The address he uses for the media traces back to an Afro-Caribbean hairdressers’ in Birmingham.

 

Davy Cooling: A 26-year-old known Luton football hooligan who now lives in Daventry, Cooling originates from Northern Ireland. He is a BNP member and registered his interest in attending the BNP’s Red, White and Blue festival in August. Cooling administers the Luton EDL Facebook page.

 

Joel Titus: Aged 18, Titus is of mixed race and comes from Harrow, North London. He is an Arsenal supporter though attends Brentford home games. However, he boasted on his Facebook page that he took part in the recent West Ham and Millwall clashes. He has been able to draw in Arsenal and QPR hooligans to EDL activities. He runs the English Defence Youth and is paraded to the media as proof of their non-racist agenda.

 

Richard Price: An Aston Villa fan, Price was a leading figure in the most recent EDL protest in Birmingham. Aged 39, he claims to be subject to a football banning order and has served time in HMP Ranby. He has attended EDL protests in Birmingham and London.

 

http://kirkunity.blogspot.com/2009/10/just-who-is-edl-leadership.html

 

Some more about them:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6284184/The-English-Defence-League-will-the-flames-of-hatred-spread.html

 

They look like the sort of people any right minded person would want to protest against. Especially when they are bringing their brand of hooliganism on to the doorsteps of muslim communities, in the same way the British union of Fascists did to the Jews. The parallels so marked and the people so nasty it is little wonder some people get carried away in the enthusiasm of the protest.

 

The Manchester Police thanked the majority for behaving peaceably at the protests.

 

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1165143_ten_injured_in_edl_protest_in_manchester

 

Even the BNP have distanced themselves from EDL in characteristic Nazi form blaming them on a Zionist\Jewish plot.

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/article/520/BNP-blame-Zionists-for-EDL

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Looking back at their origins we know they are not interested in peaceful protest. Their origins come from trying to transform genuine protests in favour of our troops in to a fascist parade.

 

As the original organiser put it :

 

“How do people make the link between respecting our troops and a fascist parade? It’s pitiful. We had invited people from all corners of the community. Including Muslim leaders. These people call themselves patriotic and proud to be British but I wonder what they have ever really done for our country? It makes me sad that they seem to have a copyright on the Union Jack. If they want to come to Luton to have a fight they need to have a look at their sad lives.”

 

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/news/article/1151/Anti-fascist-alliance-keeps-far-right-crusader-at-bay

 

Who are EDL?

 

 

 

http://kirkunity.blogspot.com/2009/10/just-who-is-edl-leadership.html

 

Some more about them:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6284184/The-English-Defence-League-will-the-flames-of-hatred-spread.html

 

They look like the sort of people any right minded person would want to protest against. Especially when they are bringing their brand of hooliganism on to the doorsteps of muslim communities, in the same way the British union of Fascists did to the Jews. The parallels so marked and the people so nasty it is little wonder some people get carried away in the enthusiasm of the protest.

 

The Manchester Police thanked the majority for behaving peaceably at the protests.

 

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1165143_ten_injured_in_edl_protest_in_manchester

 

Even the BNP have distanced themselves from EDL in characteristic Nazi form blaming them on a Zionist\Jewish plot.

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/article/520/BNP-blame-Zionists-for-EDL

 

 

 

Frantically googling again I see, trying to cover the arrest of one of your UAF thugs .

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Frantically googling again I see, trying to cover the arrest of one of your UAF thugs .

 

Oh its ok for THEM to be violent because THEY have 'RIGHT' on THERE side! :roll:

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Frantically googling again I see, trying to cover the arrest of one of your UAF thugs .

 

If you recall, it is you that are the one trying to cover up for having used a far right John Birch society source to misrepresent the views of the US public.

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