unbeliever   10 #4573 Posted March 18, 2017 Lots of things may be stated and laid down. But it will never be settled, ever, or at least not for a long time.  Well nothing is ever irrevocable. But a simple and separate bilateral agreement could emerge very quickly and I'm not convinced that it would need ratification by national legislatures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jacktari   10 #4574 Posted March 18, 2017 I watched David Dimbleby's Question Time on BBCi earlier, and it was the first time I have seen Jacob Rees-Mogg lose his composure.  Matthew Parris had wound him up regarding the slovenly way this government are going about brexit, and he was visibly rattled.  He used the word 'remoaner' and immediately realised he was in danger of losing his 'upper crust' demeanor, and quickly recovered.  it was amusing to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
unbeliever   10 #4575 Posted March 18, 2017 I watched David Dimbleby's Question Time on BBCi earlier, and it was the first time I have seen Jacob Rees-Mogg lose his composure.  Matthew Parris had wound him up regarding the slovenly way this government are going about brexit, and he was visibly rattled.  He used the word 'remoaner' and immediately realised he was in danger of losing his 'upper crust' demeanor, and quickly recovered.  it was amusing to see.  And you don't think the SNP's complete floundering over the basic question of what currency their independent Scotland would use was a bit more significant.  For all the complaints over the detail of the plan for Brexit, there were at least broad strokes. You would at least get an answer to key questions when you asked campaign leaders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jacktari   10 #4576 Posted March 18, 2017 And you don't think the SNP's complete floundering over the basic question of what currency their independent Scotland would use was a bit more significant. For all the complaints over the detail of the plan for Brexit, there were at least broad strokes. You would at least get an answer to key questions when you asked campaign leaders.  I don't think she was floundering at all. She was just gobsmacked at the appalling insult the Scottish people had been dealt by the pig ignorant southern Jessie in the crowd. As usual Dimbleby did nothing to stop the insults being thrown at anyone not of his background or persuasion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
unbeliever   10 #4577 Posted March 18, 2017 I don't think she was floundering at all. She was just gobsmacked at the appalling insult the Scottish people had been dealt by the pig ignorant southern Jessie in the crowd. As usual Dimbleby did nothing to stop the insults being thrown at anyone not of his background or persuasion.  Excellent. Then you will have gleaned from her response what currency the independent nation of Scotland will be using. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hairyloon   10 #4578 Posted March 19, 2017 I'll just leave this here... Pundits and MPs kept saying ‘why isn’t Leave arguing about the economy and living standards’. They did not realise that for millions of people, £350m/NHS was about the economy and living standards – that’s why it was so effective. It was clearly the most effective argument not only with the crucial swing fifth but with almost every demographic. Even with UKIP voters it was level-pegging with immigration. Would we have won without immigration? No. Would we have won without £350m/NHS? All our research and the close result strongly suggests No. Would we have won by spending our time talking about trade and the Single Market? No way. http://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/vote-leave-director-admits-won-lied-public/08/02/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PeteMorris   10 #4579 Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) Mod Note:  As the consequences thread has grown so large with almost 4,600 posts, we've decided to give it a clean sheet, as it's unlikely to be read through by anyone wanting to post. Also, the 'issue'has moved along somewhat.  I will be closing this thread, but of course it's still there for reference should it be needed.  Kind regards  Pete  https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1504448 Edited March 20, 2017 by PeteMorris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...