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Old 09-08-2012, 17:22   #21
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I was under the impression that it had. Maybe I misheard John Humphries on R4...
Misheard no, but misunderstood, quite obviously.

What happened is that a teenage girl who was flat out going for a world record, swam the last fifty metres quicker than a man who already had the gold medal in the bag and was coasting. That really is not worthy of wonder.
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Old 09-08-2012, 18:16   #22
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I guess the US coach didn't understand either then, he was probably new to the sport I expect...
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Old 09-08-2012, 21:32   #23
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Given the poor medal return in the pool will Swimming get less funding for the next Olympics in Rio ?
Genuine question btw, here is a link to the funding for each sport for London 2012
http://www.uksport.gov.uk/sport/summer/
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Old 09-08-2012, 22:20   #24
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If you want to guarantee that they do badly again I suppose that would make sense.
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Old 09-08-2012, 22:57   #25
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If you want to guarantee that they do badly again I suppose that would make sense.
I thought that medal success was the way sport UK guaranteed funding, it's not about how I or anyone else wants them to do, but how they have actually done, if that is the case
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Old 09-08-2012, 23:15   #26
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Good point, you said "will it", not "it should".

I don't know the answer, but if funding is cut for doing badly that sounds like a downwards spiral to me.
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:36   #27
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Given the poor medal return in the pool will Swimming get less funding for the next Olympics in Rio ?
Genuine question btw, here is a link to the funding for each sport for London 2012
http://www.uksport.gov.uk/sport/summer/
But that isn't UK funding it looks like global funding.

For all UK sport the funding is £125m of which £40m comes from the government and £87m comes from the National Lottery.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19226099

The actual figure taken from this website is £126,554,900 which, I added up correctly is slightly more than the £125m listed earlier in the article. I'm not sure how accurate these figures are though, but it lists the UK breakdown as:

•Rowing: £27,287,600
•Cycling: £26,032,000
•Athletics: £25,148,000
•Swimming: £25,144,600
•Sailing: £22,942,700

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Old 12-08-2012, 09:45   #28
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But that isn't UK funding it looks like global funding.

For all UK sport the funding is £125m of which £40m comes from the government and £87m comes from the National Lottery.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19226099

The actual figure taken from this website is £126,554,900 which, I added up correctly is slightly more than the £125m listed earlier in the article. I'm not sure how accurate these figures are though, but it lists the UK breakdown as:

•Rowing: £27,287,600
•Cycling: £26,032,000
•Athletics: £25,148,000
•Swimming: £25,144,600
•Sailing: £22,942,700

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I'm not sure what point your trying to make here ..... Uk funding / global funding ..... I asked if the funding for swimming would be less due to the poor medal return
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I'm not sure what point your trying to make here ..... Uk funding / global funding ..... I asked if the funding for swimming would be less due to the poor medal return
The report said it would carry on to Rio at the same levels.
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The report said it would carry on to Rio at the same levels.
My apologies Mecky, it does indeed, the article mentions also that it is up to UK sport how much goes where, so I suppose funding given to swimming could potentially change.
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I was under the impression that it had. Maybe I misheard John Humphries on R4...
Swimming the last 50m faster than the bloke who won the equivalent Mens race is pretty impressive, but maybe it just shows poor pace judgment from both of them. Maybe Lochte went too fast early on and burnt out, whereas the Chinese woman did the opposite. The fastest way to swim an event (or run or cycle or row come to that) is to even pace it.
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Old 14-08-2012, 14:58   #32
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If the guy misjudged it then he wouldn't have won... Unless every male swimmer in the race misjudged it as well...
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Old 20-08-2012, 08:15   #33
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I am not swimmer but i am always interested to them,for me all swimmer are really good and they compete very well,all of them really doing a good job on swimming and i am thumbs up to all swimmer.
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Old 20-08-2012, 10:39   #34
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I didn't see as much of the Olympics as I would have liked, one thing that has caught my eye is the talks now of increase the amount we put into future athletes and how the lottery funding is going to be split up amongst our various sports types, from what I remember hearing the lottery money will give higher amounts to the sports events which gained more medals and less to the sport events we struggled to get medals in. In my opinion that is a stupid idea as it shows we already have good facilities/training for certain events which we got more golds in etc and it would make more sense to put the money into the less productive events which in turn should produce more gold medals for us in the long run! what are others views on this?
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Old 23-08-2012, 14:49   #35
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If the guy misjudged it then he wouldn't have won... Unless every male swimmer in the race misjudged it as well...
Just because he won doesn`t necessarily mean he got his pacing right. If he`d even paced it he should theoretically have gone faster, he might have broken the world record, who knows.....
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Though we had faith in Adlington it wasn’t quite as we expected, US did extremely well and I observed them being well focused and goal oriented.
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