SYPTE consultation on bus route changes

I have also done the consultation. Just as new houses are being planned in Stannington, making Malin Bridge traffic worse, someone decides to cancel the SL2. Not a great idea.

 

 

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Stannington also has the 61, 62, 81 and 82. The SL2 (which has never really pulled the punters sufficiently since its launch a few years ago) is going but changes to the route and frequency of the 81 will replace it.

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LAST CHANCE

Today is the final day of consultation

http://www.travelsouthyorkshire.com/sbp

I have also done the consultation. Just as new houses are being planned in Stannington, making Malin Bridge traffic worse, someone decides to cancel the SL2. Not a great idea.

 

 

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unfortunately stagecoach aren't going to fight too much to keep on a service thats losing money. if more people had used it then it wouldn't be going

When I started this thread I was aware that the consultation had been delayed, and that it was likely to be less than the originally intended 6 weeks.

I suppose I should have expected very little publicity would be given to this major overhaul of Sheffield bus services. I really did expect Sheffield Bus Partnership to have engaged with reporters from The Star to provide a positive spread to explain it all. It disappoints me that The Star itself hasn't taken the trouble to do a full investigative piece, merely concentrating on a few anecdotal reports across the city.

As a result a few pressure groups have caught the eye, yet masses of people are going to wake up to massive changes in November.

Whilst few users will be deprived of a bus entirely, many will need to start journeys earlier, and get back later. Lots will have to change buses instead of having a direct service. Commuting patterns wil be disturbed making some jobs much harder to perform. In many cases bus travel to a favoured supermarket or chemist may no longer be possible.

Publicity on the buses themselves has been poor, the posters hardly making the situation clear even if they could be read. Leaflets have been hard to find. Libraries may not have been sent posters or leaflets, and nor have community groups.

The drop-in sessions were very well attended, especially considering how poorly the SBP tried to advertise them. The representatives were all but overwhelmed at most sessions. Unfortunately they seemed to be taking few notes, mostly explaining what was to happen as best they could. Hopefully they did feed back at least some helpful suggestions that can be implemented.

I suspect the consultation questionnaire will be remaining online over the weekend. It still seems to be live now at; http://www.travelsouthyorkshire.com/sbpsurvey.aspx

It's not too late to have your say.

Finally, looking at the activity on some other topics on SF I do wonder as to the priorities for action. This major bus reorganisation is going to impact far more on more people. Don't complain about bus mayhem in November if you didn't take part in the survey.

The lower part of frecheville is losing the Tm travel 55 and the 42 to Crystal Peaks, but SYPTE are telling us they are extending the 42 route to Meadowhell, we don't want to go there we want to stay local. For many older and disabled the only way to get to Crystal Peaks is to get a taxi to Birley Moor Rd then get the 120 to Crtstal Peaks, they also seem to have forgot that if they do go to Meadowhell some can't walk the distance from the bus station to the shopping area.

What a scandal - this 'consultation' has been a sham. The city's best kept secret.

The lower part of frecheville is losing the Tm travel 55 and the 42 to Crystal Peaks, but SYPTE are telling us they are extending the 42 route to Meadowhell, we don't want to go there we want to stay local. For many older and disabled the only way to get to Crystal Peaks is to get a taxi to Birley Moor Rd then get the 120 to Crtstal Peaks, they also seem to have forgot that if they do go to Meadowhell some can't walk the distance from the bus station to the shopping area.

Indeed, Frecheville seems to lose out, the only bus being the 42 terminating at Dyke Vale Road.

The bit of the 55 between Birley and Crystal Peaks is replaced by the 83A - the 83/83A is the new version of the 44.

I trust you have filled in the consultation survey with your comments... http://www.travelsouthyorkshire.com/sbp LAST CHANCE!

Does anyone actually think that this 'consultation' is going to make any difference at all?

The powers that be have already made a decision and are just trying to make it look like that it was 'people power' that changed things.

Apparently people were consulted on the Travel Information Centres closing. I certain don't remember seeing anything other than they were closing

Indeed, Frecheville seems to lose out, the only bus being the 42 terminating at Dyke Vale Road.

 

The bit of the 55 between Birley and Crystal Peaks is replaced by the 83A - the 83/83A is the new version of the 44.

 

I trust you have filled in the consultation survey with your comments... http://www.travelsouthyorkshire.com/sbp LAST CHANCE!

But it's not coming down to the lower parts of Frecheville, I've filled the various forms in and attended meetings, but it already appears to be a done deal. I contacted TM Travel re the 55 and it is a contracted service from SYPTE and as such they can't do anything about it. Some of the old folk visit the supermarket and market at Crystal Peaks relying on the buses to do their shopping, SYPTE there isn't a supermarket at Meadowhell! It's time the muppets with their big cars and wage packets who came up with these route changes looked at reality and really took notice of how it will affect people's lives.

But it's not coming down to the lower parts of Frecheville, I've filled the various forms in and attended meetings, but it already appears to be a done deal. I contacted TM Travel re the 55 and it is a contracted service from SYPTE and as such they can't do anything about it. Some of the old folk visit the supermarket and market at Crystal Peaks relying on the buses to do their shopping, SYPTE there isn't a supermarket at Meadowhell! It's time the muppets with their big cars and wage packets who came up with these route changes looked at reality and really took notice of how it will affect people's lives.

Perhaps a conspiracy to divert market and supermarket custom from Crystal Peaks to Moorfoot....

Anyway, if all of us who use Sheffield Forum have done our bit and contributed feedback and suggestions to the consultation, SYPTE and the bus partnership cannot blame us for unpopular changes.

Lets see now what has been taken on board for the final proposal for the new Sheffield bus network.

Whilst a lot of people are very cynical about the consultation excercise, some comments were taken on board when they did the Rotherham bus partnership consultation - for example buses from Harthill continue to serve the hospital on their way into Rotherham which was a big point raised at the drop in session held in the village which was very well attended.

On the other hand, everyone would like a bus from where they live to everywhere they might want to go, realistically bus services that do not sell enough tickets to be financially viable are unlikely to last long, especially in the current climate of austerity imposed by the government. Also the network must be allowed to change where it needs to in order to reflect changes in demand due to where people choose to work, shop, live, socialise etc.

Then there is the question of frequent tram/train feeder bus or less frequent bus direct into town - and whether all those buses need to be on the road..

On the other hand, everyone would like a bus from where they live to everywhere they might want to go..

...and at the time they want to travel.

That's called a taxi, isn't it?

...and at the time they want to travel.

 

That's called a taxi, isn't it?

Or a private car.

(Until SCC succeed in their aim of driving out both so as to leave their roads** nice and tidy: more user-friendly?)

**- the ones that aren't blocked-off, that is.

About time the people of Sheffield got on board with the concept of 'interchange'. Unfortunately it's unlikely you'll have a direct service to everywhere you want to go to, whod'da thunk it?! Especially those travelling for NOTHING that seem to shout the loudest!

The rest of the world seems to manage ok with it, why not us?