Phanerothyme 12 #1 Posted March 9, 2016 “I took LSD when I was working on Return of the Jedi. I could communicate with my cat Brian, and Brian took me on a journey. “I crawled into this cupboard with Brian the cat and we went to the centre of the Earth for like three billion years and I was just in this world of molecules. It was fine, it was very calming. “I decided to go back to work and I was at ILM (Industrial Light & Magic) and I walked into the blue screen stage and it’s huge - everything’s just super illuminated bright blue - and it was just like ‘Aaaah, I took like way too much.’’ source:http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/star-wars-animator-took-lsd-during-production-i-got-to-the-green-screen-and-it-was-like-aaagh-i-took-a6916576.html Phil Tippet is the chap who won an Academy Award for the visual effects on Return of the Jedi. Given that the cannabis argument is essentially won, and we're simply waiting for legislation to catch up, isn't it time we turned to rehabilitating psychedelics? Their potential has gone untapped for too long, and whilst the surface is being scratched by outifts like MAPS (http://www.maps.org) and The Beckley Foundation (http://www.beckleyfoundation.org/) and their funding of the absurdly expensive, permit infested field of psychedelic science, the potential for game changing improvements in mental health, violence, abuse, addiction, alienation, to name but a few, is to great to be ignored by the mainstream any longer. The evidence mounts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared 302 #2 Posted March 9, 2016 There was some stuff done in the 60's and 70's but I'm not sure how far they got before it was demonised and not available. With modern brain scanning techniques it might be a field worth looking into again, although people might be doing that at the moment - have you had a look?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Phanerothyme 12 #3 Posted March 9, 2016 Oh I've met a couple of people who were subjects in the most recent fMRI/LSD study, the results are being crunched right now. For religious leaders - there's this: http://csp.org/religiousleaderstudy /RLstudyflyer140902.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
apelike 10 #4 Posted March 9, 2016 Oh I've met a couple of people who were subjects in the most recent fMRI/LSD study, the results are being crunched right now. For religious leaders - there's this: http://csp.org/religiousleaderstudy /RLstudyflyer140902.pdf To be honest I have never had any religious or supernatural experiences when either on acid or psilocybin. Lots of cartoon stuff, synaesthesia, colours and laughter though. Maybe it was because I didn't believe in religion as a friend who was religious said she saw angels. Oddly I have recently watched a episode of the new X-files where Mulder took some psilocybin to contact someone in a coma. Shan't give the game away though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Nagel 10 #5 Posted March 9, 2016 Oh I've met a couple of people who were subjects in the most recent fMRI/LSD study, the results are being crunched right now. For religious leaders - there's this: http://csp.org/religiousleaderstudy /RLstudyflyer140902.pdf File Not Found Was it perhaps the Good Friday Experiment where psilocybin was given to divinity students who then (quelle surprise) went on to have religious experiences? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster 24 #6 Posted March 10, 2016 Oh I've met a couple of people who were subjects in the most recent fMRI/LSD study, the results are being crunched right now. For religious leaders - there's this: http://csp.org/religiousleaderstudy /RLstudyflyer140902.pdf While I agree that we should look into (currently demonised) psychoactive drugs for beneficial uses, I don't think that nonsense should be used to promote it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Phanerothyme 12 #7 Posted March 10, 2016 What sort of nonsense? ---------- Post added 10-03-2016 at 21:12 ---------- File Not Found Was it perhaps the Good Friday Experiment where psilocybin was given to divinity students who then (quelle surprise) went on to have religious experiences? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment Oh yeah, Marsh Chapel was a long time ago, then there was this ten years ago, from Johns Hopkins - http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/Press_releases/2006/07_11_06.html and then this, now - http://csp.org/religiousleaderstudy/RLstudyflyer140902.pdf (fixed the link). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Quik 10 #8 Posted March 10, 2016 Lsd is illegal. Maybe the mods might want to think that one through before deleting law abiding posts and leaving pro drugs ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
apelike 10 #9 Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) Lsd is illegal. Maybe the mods might want to think that one through before deleting law abiding posts and leaving pro drugs ones. LSD my be illegal but talking about it and using it in a clinical trial is not. It was also considered by the US and UK army as a weapon of warfare and soldiers were used as guinea-pigs in experiments. Some funny videos on youtube about it. Edited March 10, 2016 by apelike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Phanerothyme 12 #10 Posted March 11, 2016 Lsd is illegal. Maybe the mods might want to think that one through before deleting law abiding posts and leaving pro drugs ones. Are you new to the concept of discussion forums? On SF we try to distinguish between doing something and writing about something. This convention enables us to discuss topics like murder, rape, genocide, voting tory and speeding without needing to actually commit any of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Nagel 10 #11 Posted March 11, 2016 Lsd is illegal. Maybe the mods might want to think that one through before deleting law abiding posts and leaving pro drugs ones. The distinction is made between drugs being illegal for the general population and legal as medically prescribed drugs or for research. For instance many of the mums on the forum will have been administered heroin in childbirth for pain relief, quite legally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Phanerothyme 12 #12 Posted March 11, 2016 To be honest I have never had any religious or supernatural experiences when either on acid or psilocybin. Lots of cartoon stuff, synaesthesia, colours and laughter though. Maybe it was because I didn't believe in religion as a friend who was religious said she saw angels. Well, have you ever experienced a sense of unity or oneness with your surroundings? Or any experience of a 'presence' or 'entity' (more common with Psilocybin than LSD)? 'Set and setting' play their part in creating the experience, but to my mind numinousness is almost entirely dose dependent. How your mind chooses to interpret 'unfiltered' sensory input will be different to everyone else's, but when you reach a certain, dose dependent, point of psychedelic effect, the mind seems to be able to use the visual cortex and language areas of the brain, in particular, in a different way. My own current pet theory is that numinousness, the religious experience, the spiritual epiphany, the damascene conversion, all occur as a result of the mind perceiving itself, rather than perceiving the world through the meatware. All very nebulous and silly, but given science is currently lacking any kind of theory of mind, I'm free to go out on a limb! Oddly I have recently watched a episode of the new X-files where Mulder took some psilocybin to contact someone in a coma. Shan't give the game away though. Harmaline, a component of Ayahuasca was orginally named 'Telepathine', when it was first isolated. No psychedelic has yet been reported to reliably enable telepathic powers, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...