Berberis   10 #1 Posted July 4, 2017 I know there are those who will oppose any change to how cyclists ride on the roads, but after todays near accident, which was my fault. I'm certain if the cyclist was wearing a high visibility jacket I would have seen him.  I pulled out of a junction and did not see the guy until after he had passed in front of me. The low light and his dark clothing made him difficult to see It was my fault, but I suspect, if he was wearing something more visible I would have seen him. His dark grey top on a slightly light grey bike with out a helmet, made him very difficult to see in the low light at approx 7am today.  Many cyclists do wear either bright clothing or high visibility jackets or vests, but should this be mandatory? I think so, going by personal experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
TimmyR Â Â 10 #2 Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) Cycling provides an overall benefit to society - the health benefits outweigh the risks. Anything therefore that will put people off cycling and hence reduce the numbers of people cycling will have an overall negative impact. Forcing people to wear high vis is going to put people off for several reasons - having to buy high vis, it looks crap, its uncomfortable. Â Now on the other hand driving is on average not beneficial to society so maybe everyone should be forced to take an advanced driving course, increasing awareness of how to drive according to road conditions etc. This may put people off driving but that is a good thing. Â I generally wear high vis but not always, I'm not convinced it makes that much difference. I simply assume that no one can see me and so cycle accordingly (like I'm riding through a field of blind people driving tanks in random directions, some of whom have an irrational hatred of cyclists) Edited July 4, 2017 by TimmyR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SnailyBoy   10 #3 Posted July 4, 2017 I know there are those who will oppose any change to how cyclists ride on the roads, but after todays near accident, which was my fault. I'm certain if the cyclist was wearing a high visibility jacket I would have seen him. I pulled out of a junction and did not see the guy until after he had passed in front of me. The low light and his dark clothing made him difficult to see It was my fault, but I suspect, if he was wearing something more visible I would have seen him. His dark grey top on a slightly light grey bike with out a helmet, made him very difficult to see in the low light at approx 7am today.  Many cyclists do wear either bright clothing or high visibility jackets or vests, but should this be mandatory? I think so, going by personal experience.  Checking to see if it was safe to pull out of the junction would be a better solution in this case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ratter71 Â Â 10 #4 Posted July 4, 2017 Should motorists only be allowed to buy yellow cars? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
monkey104   10 #5 Posted July 4, 2017 Have you considered retaking your test? Your observation skills are lacking  He did say it was low light and the cyclist was wearing dark clothing! There is such a thing as self preservation. I cycle ( much to my dismay) and am very conscious of my own safety hence bright clothing, lights and helmet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
monkey104   10 #6 Posted July 4, 2017 I coach cycling. And there are ways of being more visible But any motorist who utters the words  Sorry mate I did not see you.  Needs a retest  And do you encourage your students to wear hi vis clothing, helmets, lights? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nightrider   13 #7 Posted July 4, 2017 Should motorists only be allowed to buy yellow cars?  cars have to have working external lighting systems. Bikes do not. Maybe the question by OP should be rephrased to should cyclists be forced to have lights and use them in low light and at night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SnailyBoy   10 #8 Posted July 4, 2017 cars have to have working external lighting systems. Bikes do not. Maybe the question by OP should be rephrased to should cyclists be forced to have lights and use them in low light and at night?  7am, Early July = low light? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nightrider   13 #9 Posted July 4, 2017 7am, Early July = low light?  yes good point!  Still the question is valid though when it actually is low light or dark. Its not safe to be cycling in dark clothes with no lights (which I have seen people do). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ihpb   10 #10 Posted July 4, 2017 Bicycles are required to have lights fitted http://www.cyclelaw.co.uk/legality-of-cycle-lighting-accessories  In the interest of self preservation I often wear high visibility clothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nowt2pctoday   10 #11 Posted July 4, 2017 I know there are those who will oppose any change to how cyclists ride on the roads, but after todays near accident, which was my fault. I'm certain if the cyclist was wearing a high visibility jacket I would have seen him. I pulled out of a junction and did not see the guy until after he had passed in front of me. The low light and his dark clothing made him difficult to see It was my fault, but I suspect, if he was wearing something more visible I would have seen him. His dark grey top on a slightly light grey bike with out a helmet, made him very difficult to see in the low light at approx 7am today.  Many cyclists do wear either bright clothing or high visibility jackets or vests, but should this be mandatory? I think so, going by personal experience.  Absolutely they should have to wear these , anything to make them look as daft as the "Mock racer lycra" get ups most of them wear:hihi: and whilst we are talking about what cyclists should do they should also have to be insured and registered and pay a usage fee for their special cycle lanes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Flexo   10 #12 Posted July 4, 2017 Should motorists only be allowed to buy yellow cars?  That's the logical conclusion.  Also, the only horses allowed on the roads are to be flourescent yellow ones.  And no pedestrian may walk on or cross the road unless they carry a flashing light. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...