Bonzo77 Â Â 13 #1 Posted March 8, 2016 Canada are to trial a universal basic income. With several other European countries also considering the idea, it looks like there's a growing movement gathering pace. Â http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/now-canada-is-trying-a-basic-income-britain-can-ignore-it-no-longer-a6919486.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Quik   10 #2 Posted March 9, 2016 Talk about a third worlder magnet.  Who comes up with these retarded ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ECCOnoob   1,043 #3 Posted March 9, 2016 Last time I looked Canada doesn't have a National Health Service Its combined income tax rates can be anything between 25-40% for the lowest scale earners. It has a sales tax of between 5% - 15% on goods and services Its average minimum wage is around 1.50 less than our current one and will be a couple of quid less than the new increased one.  Grass is always greener and all that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Nagel   10 #4 Posted March 9, 2016 Canada are to trial a universal basic income. With several other European countries also considering the idea, it looks like there's a growing movement gathering pace. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/now-canada-is-trying-a-basic-income-britain-can-ignore-it-no-longer-a6919486.html  It makes sense to me that everyone in a country should be supported so they don't starve. Whether you dress it up as social security or the basic state income matters not.  This is going to become much more important over the next decades as many simpler jobs are replaced by automation and robots. Our society has to decide what is the purpose of human life and how to support people who no longer have any useful purpose as workers.  It's one of the biggest issues facing us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dangerousedd   10 #5 Posted March 9, 2016 I don't think financial sector will like the idea and will have it scuppered in short order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Nagel   10 #6 Posted March 9, 2016 I don't think financial sector will like the idea and will have it scuppered in short order.  The financial sector doesn't have any reasonable suggestion as to what to do with the vast number of people who will have no useful work in the near future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
unbeliever   10 #7 Posted March 9, 2016 Last time I looked Canada doesn't have a National Health Service Its combined income tax rates can be anything between 25-40% for the lowest scale earners. It has a sales tax of between 5% - 15% on goods and services Its average minimum wage is around 1.50 less than our current one and will be a couple of quid less than the new increased one.  Grass is always greener and all that.  Canada has universal healthcare, through a socialised insurance system. The state doesn't run the healthcare system, but it pays for everybody's healthcare. They also have a lower cost of living, so less money goes further. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sutty27   10 #8 Posted March 9, 2016 It makes sense to me that everyone in a country should be supported so they don't starve. Whether you dress it up as social security or the basic state income matters not. This is going to become much more important over the next decades as many simpler jobs are replaced by automation and robots. Our society has to decide what is the purpose of human life and how to support people who no longer have any useful purpose as workers.  It's one of the biggest issues facing us.  Didn't we already try that with the invention of the car wash, then we went back to cheap slaves/migrant workers.  ---------- Post added 09-03-2016 at 07:45 ----------  Talk about a third worlder magnet. Who comes up with these retarded ideas?  Canada have an immigration policy that would prevent the tsunami of migrants, try it here and would would drown in the flood of immigrants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bonzo77   13 #9 Posted March 9, 2016 It makes sense to me that everyone in a country should be supported so they don't starve. Whether you dress it up as social security or the basic state income matters not. This is going to become much more important over the next decades as many simpler jobs are replaced by automation and robots. Our society has to decide what is the purpose of human life and how to support people who no longer have any useful purpose as workers.  It's one of the biggest issues facing us.  It's actually cheaper to pay everyone an income than it is to means test individuals. Daft as it sounds this move will save money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Gamston   10 #10 Posted March 9, 2016 It makes sense to me that everyone in a country should be supported so they don't starve. Whether you dress it up as social security or the basic state income matters not. This is going to become much more important over the next decades as many simpler jobs are replaced by automation and robots. Our society has to decide what is the purpose of human life and how to support people who no longer have any useful purpose as workers.  It's one of the biggest issues facing us.  In our society, there would be too many idle layabouts voluteering to be replaced by automation and robots, leaving a shortage of people prepared to go out to work and bring home the bacon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sutty27   10 #11 Posted March 9, 2016 It's actually cheaper to pay everyone an income than it is to means test individuals. Daft as it sounds this move will save money.  I find that hard to believe and it will also put thousands of people out of work.  To cut all forms of means testing would mean every household would have to be given about £25,000 a year and that works out at £662,500,000,000.  UK government tax receipts for 2014–15 £648.000,000,000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Orzel   10 #12 Posted March 9, 2016 I find that hard to believe and it will also put thousands of people out of work.  To cut all forms of means testing would mean every household would have to be given about £25,000 a year and that works out at £662,500,000,000.  UK government tax receipts for 2014–15 £648.000,000,000  Oh, c'mon we can print some more money can we? It's not like money represents outcome of someone's work, it's just a piece of paper that you print and sucks value out of thin air. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...