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06-02-2017, 19:27   #421
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Arsenal apparently are after George Hirst now.
well hopefully he doesn't just see the pound signs, much better off staying put for a couple of seasons and developing here
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well hopefully he doesn't just see the pound signs, much better off staying put for a couple of seasons and developing here
I'd normally agree with you.... but. Is he going to get the opportunity to develop with the Owls now that they have, what I'd consider, a good striker force?

Also, with the money the chairman has, are youth players going to get a chance or are the Owls going to go the same way as a lot of the PL teams are doing?

I know Palmer has been given a fair few games, but at 25 I'd consider him more of the older generation now.
Wildsmith does get some cup games which is good, but if this is what Hirst is hoping for, you'd imagine a decent youth player would also get this chance with Arsenal as well.
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06-02-2017, 19:47   #423
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What a great thing it would be if we could bring in a fit, willing, focused McGugan for the next few games. He'd be like a new signing, and a good one. What a waste of talent that lad has been. Goals from Midfield? That's his game.

PS He'd have to learn to work hard and help the defence as well.
I know, it's asking too much.

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What a great thing it would be if we could bring in a fit, willing, focused McGugan for the next few games. He'd be like a new signing, and a good one. What a waste of talent that lad has been. Goals from Midfield? That's his game.
Too lazy though, he contributed virtually nothing in his last start and is totally out of favour with CC.

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I'd normally agree with you.... but. Is he going to get the opportunity to develop with the Owls now that they have, what I'd consider, a good striker force?

Also, with the money the chairman has, are youth players going to get a chance or are the Owls going to go the same way as a lot of the PL teams are doing?

I know Palmer has been given a fair few games, but at 25 I'd consider him more of the older generation now.
Wildsmith does get some cup games which is good, but if this is what Hirst is hoping for, you'd imagine a decent youth player would also get this chance with Arsenal as well.
If he's not going to get a chance with us he certainly wont with Arsenal, the calibre they can bring in will be far higher, if he's good enough he'll get his chance with us.
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06-02-2017, 19:51   #425
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Too lazy though, he contributed virtually nothing in his last start and is totally out of favour with CC.
I added that very fact whilst you were typing.
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If he's not going to get a chance with us he certainly wont with Arsenal, the calibre they can bring in will be far higher, if he's good enough he'll get his chance with us.
Depends how highly Arsenal rate him. He might get more cup appearances than he would at the Owls. But likely to be a similar amount.

He's in a bit of a tricky situation, the Owls have some good forwards and he will see his opportunities limited because of this.
But he is still young and has time on his hands. It may well be worth sending him out to non-league to see how he fairs.
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Too lazy though, he contributed virtually nothing in his last start and is totally out of favour with CC.

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If he's not going to get a chance with us he certainly wont with Arsenal, the calibre they can bring in will be far higher, if he's good enough he'll get his chance with us.
Maybe he'd develop into an even better player, with better players around him. You become the environment your in.
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Depends how highly Arsenal rate him. He might get more cup appearances than he would at the Owls. But likely to be a similar amount.

He's in a bit of a tricky situation, the Owls have some good forwards and he will see his opportunities limited because of this.
But he is still young and has time on his hands. It may well be worth sending him out to non-league to see how he fairs.
He's playing regularly at international and development level, what good would non league do?? The club have said he won't be loaned, it may be another couple of seasons before he makes the breakthrough and if his progression continues he will make the first team.
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He's playing regularly at international and development level, what good would non league do?? The club have said he won't be loaned, it may be another couple of seasons before he makes the breakthrough and if his progression continues he will make the first team.
Do you think he'd improve if he joined the Chelsea youth set up. The one you played recently?
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He's playing regularly at international and development level, what good would non league do?? The club have said he won't be loaned, it may be another couple of seasons before he makes the breakthrough and if his progression continues he will make the first team.
Would you consider non-league prem to be of a higher standard than the development squad?
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Would you consider non-league prem to be of a higher standard than the development squad?
He wont be playing on loan for a non-league side, lets drop it.
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i would think his dad would advise him to stop at S6.when Man Utd wanted him (David) he didn't want to go.
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i would think his dad would advise him to stop at S6.when Man Utd wanted him (David) he didn't want to go.
To be fair I think DH did want to go, who wouldn't but he was an established first team player and would have been first choice at Manchester United, young George is nowhere near that yet.
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To be fair I think DH did want to go, who wouldn't but he was an established first team player and would have been first choice at Manchester United, young George is nowhere near that yet.
Personally I'd stay at Wednesday. You only have to look at what's happened to other potentially good youth players. I think his dad would positively influence him too. No point in him going.
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i would think his dad would advise him to stop at S6.when Man Utd wanted him (David) he didn't want to go.
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To be fair I think DH did want to go, who wouldn't but he was an established first team player and would have been first choice at Manchester United, young George is nowhere near that yet.
Yes he did want to go, and was fuming at first that Francis wouldn't let him go.

It wouldn't surprise me if young George did move - Arsenal would be VERY difficult to turn down
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He wont be playing on loan for a non-league side, lets drop it.
Just a simple answer to a simple question would be sufficient.

I don't disagree he won't be leaving.
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Yes he did want to go, and was fuming at first that Francis wouldn't let him go.

It wouldn't surprise me if young George did move - Arsenal would be VERY difficult to turn down
I think the difference is though mate Hirst Snr was the finished article at the time of Uniteds interest, George would be putting himself among some of the best young players in the country and might not emerge from the pack.
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I think the difference is though mate Hirst Snr was the finished article at the time of Uniteds interest, George would be putting himself among some of the best young players in the country and might not emerge from the pack.
Yeah true.

Only thing is Arsenal have a very good record of bringing young ones along. Saying that you don't hear about the (many I expect) that don't make it.

He's very raw though and hopefully he'll grow with us.
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