Is it OK to pay disabled workers less than the minimum wage?

A Tory Lord told activists last month that some workers were "not worth the full wage".

Lord Freud, a former banker, suggested there should be a way to pay disabled people less than the National Minimum Wage but top their pay up in benefits.

Would more people with disabilities get jobs if employers were allowed to pay them less?

No it is not okay to treat disabled people in a less favourable manner.

God knows why Blair employed a wealthy city banker to look at wefare reform. What experience has he got? Does he even know what he is talking about? Apparently not....

No it is not okay to treat disabled people in a less favourable manner.

 

God knows why Blair employed a wealthy city banker to look at wefare reform. What experience has he got? Does he even know what he is talking about? Apparently not....

Maybe because he knew there was a high chance the windbag would make an utter arse of himself and his party.

Easy Political points :hihi::hihi:

This doesn't apply to someone who is moderately disabled and doing a job. They will be getting equal pay already (or at least I hope so!)

The key thing here is:

Would more people with disabilities get jobs if employers were allowed to pay them less?

I know quite a few people with learning difficulties who are unemployable and not worth a full time job. Harsh but that's life. They could however do aspects of the job, the social experience would do them good. It's not as straightforward as saying equal pay all round.

But like I say, no doubt the know-nowts will be all over this because the proposal has come from a Tory, and a Lord to boot!!

A Tory Lord told activists last month that some workers were "not worth the full wage".

Lord Freud, a former banker, suggested there should be a way to pay disabled people less than the National Minimum Wage but top their pay up in benefits.

 

Would more people with disabilities get jobs if employers were allowed to pay them less?

No they wouldn't. I don't think it's about the wage it's more about adjustments that need to be made and, depending on the condition, how much time off they are likely to have. If you employing someone to do the job and they can do the job pay them the going rate like anyone else.

This doesn't apply to someone who is moderately disabled and doing a job. They will be getting equal pay already (or at least I hope so!)

 

The key thing here is:

 

 

I know quite a few people with learning difficulties who are unemployable and not worth a full time job. Harsh but that's life. They could however do aspects of the job, the social experience would do them good. It's not as straightforward as saying equal pay all round.

 

But like I say, no doubt the know-nowts will be all over this because the proposal has come from a Tory, and a Lord to boot!!

It's a pity that Governments have closed Remploy factories down. This is what they were for...people who needed supported employment, and weren't ready for the open job market.

It would be just as wrong if this came from Labour, Green, Yellow or whatever, if it's wrong, it's wrong!

A Tory Lord told activists last month that some workers were "not worth the full wage".

Lord Freud, a former banker, suggested there should be a way to pay disabled people less than the National Minimum Wage but top their pay up in benefits.

 

Would more people with disabilities get jobs if employers were allowed to pay them less?

No.

An employer should set a minimum amount of work to achieve the wage being paid, if someone can't do the required amount of work then they can't expect to keep the job, if someone exceeds the minimum amount of work they should get a bonus to compensate them for working harder than their coworkers.

The answer for your last question is yes more people with disabilities would get jobs if employers were allowed to pay them less, but the point of a minimum wage is that it is the minimum.

I think he is right in principle, it would create jobs for the disabled, but completely wrong because of the tremendous implementation issues this would bring with it. It would require all disabled people to be judged on how much they are worth, which is just not on.

A Tory Lord told activists last month that some workers were "not worth the full wage".

Lord Freud, a former banker, suggested there should be a way to pay disabled people less than the National Minimum Wage but top their pay up in benefits.

 

Would more people with disabilities get jobs if employers were allowed to pay them less?

This is rich coming from a banker!

Oh the irony...

This is rich coming from a banker!

 

Oh the irony...

I don't think Lord Fraud is even aware of the irony....But he isn't the first in the commons to suggest that the disabled be treated less favourably. Anti political correctness campaigning Tory Mp Philip Davies said people with mental health difficulties should be allowed to opt out of the minimum wage (which is a very nice way of saying 'you're worth less')

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8583005/Philip-Davies-Let-disabled-workers-opt-out-of-the-minimum-wage.html

If someone can't fulfill the job role they shouldn't have the job.

People who can't fill the requirements of a typical job role should be able to work in a supported environment where needs can be met sympatheticly without extra burden on the employer.

Maybe we should have a national organisation where people with disabilities can work safely without pressure to fit into roles they can't manage.

National company.

Adaptable job roles.

Extra or different needs met.

Support in the workplace.

Social and career development.

..... they could call it Remploy.

If someone can't fulfill the job role they shouldn't have the job.

People who can't fill the requirements of a typical job role should be able to work in a supported environment where needs can be met sympatheticly without extra burden on the employer.

 

Maybe we should have a national organisation where people with disabilities can work safely without pressure to fit into roles they can't manage.

 

National company.

Adaptable job roles.

Extra or different needs met.

Support in the workplace.

Social and career development.

 

..... they could call it Remploy.

What about those who become disabled while they are in a job