Should hardworking people be guaranteed work?

We hear about hardworking people so often in the MSM...

'Hardworking' distils the Protestant work ethic, the super-employee, skivers v strivers, into a rightwing anti-welfare policy agenda

In and of itself, there is no virtue in working, much less working hard. Tory ministers appear to disagree. The Conservative party conference was plastered with the phrase "hardworking" – "For Hardworking People", the legend boasted from the platform – and a host of frontbench speakers milked the term for every last residue of rhetorical worth. This began a few months ago when George Osborne started his – God help us – #hardworkingpeople tweets. And it's all been downhill from there.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/03/hardworking-people-conservative-mythmaking

But we live in a society with an economy that doesn't provide people with enough work.

Surely we should provide enough work to the hardworking people?

Guaranteed employment, so that a person never need be unemployed and will always be better off for working, and always able to work so that he might be better off.

Hardworking people need work to guarantee them a minimum standard of living. Surely they should be guaranteed work?

Do you think hardworking people should be guaranteed work to ensure they can earn a proper dignified wage?

Should hardworking people be guaranteed work?

We hear about hardworking people so often in the MSM...

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/03/hardworking-people-conservative-mythmaking

 

But we live in a society with an economy that doesn't provide people with enough work.

 

Surely we should provide enough work to the hardworking people?

 

Guaranteed employment, so that a person never need be unemployed and will always be better off for working, and always able to work so that he might be better off.

 

Hardworking people need work to guarantee them a minimum standard of living. Surely they should be guaranteed work?

 

Do you think hardworking people should be guaranteed work to ensure they can earn a proper dignified wage?

 

Should hardworking people be guaranteed work?

How ???????

What if we have too many hardworking teachers and not enough hard working cleaners or do we have working teachers doing a bit of cleaning? Or what?

Well they could start by paying a wage for work, instead of wanting it done for free.

I'm thinking for example, of Sheffield Libraries, that are now run by free volunteers instead of paid qualified Librarians.

Far too many people are working for free (internships, work experience, volunteers, etc,) or next to nothing, (jobs that get round the minimum wage, jobs that are subsidised by the government etc.) It's not on.

There's plenty of work for people to do. Who'd say no to a few extra nurses on the wards, or more teachers and smaller class sizes? Plenty of work, just no one willing to pay for it.

Well they could start by paying a wage for work, instead of wanting it done for free.

 

I'm thinking for example, of Sheffield Libraries, that are now run by free volunteers instead of paid qualified Librarians.

 

Far too many people are working for free (internships, work experience, volunteers, etc,) or next to nothing, (jobs that get round the minimum wage, jobs that are subsidised by the government etc.) It's not on.

 

There's plenty of work for people to do. Who'd say no to a few extra nurses on the wards, or more teachers and smaller class sizes? Plenty of work, just no one willing to pay for it.

That makes a lot more sense than the op.

We hear about hardworking people so often in the MSM...

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/03/hardworking-people-conservative-mythmaking

 

But we live in a society with an economy that doesn't provide people with enough work.

 

Surely we should provide enough work to the hardworking people?

 

Guaranteed employment, so that a person never need be unemployed and will always be better off for working, and always able to work so that he might be better off.

 

Hardworking people need work to guarantee them a minimum standard of living. Surely they should be guaranteed work?

 

Do you think hardworking people should be guaranteed work to ensure they can earn a proper dignified wage?

 

Should hardworking people be guaranteed work?

Bullmanure. There is loads of work for those that want it. And if the work isn't there, there is always private enterprise, why rely on employers when you can find your own way.

People are always moaning on here that there are no window-cleaners and so on.

What you seem to be demanding is that everyone who wants to work should be guaranteed a job and salary/wages commensurate with their qualifications and aptitudes.

I think the answer to that must be 'No, that isn't possible'.

People will only get work if they want it, the employer's order book is full and the dealines are tight ... and only then, maybe. An employer would prefer to employ 3 people instead of the required 10, providing the work can be done at the minimal acceptable rate and minimal acceptable quality

People will only get work if they want it, the employer's order book is full and the dealines are tight ... and only then, maybe. An employer would prefer to employ 3 people instead of the required 10, providing the work can be done at the minimal acceptable rate and minimal acceptable quality

Really? And what is your proof for this statement? What sort of employer are we talking about here?

Hard working unemployed people start their own businesses. There's plenty of opportunity out there

Really? And what is your proof for this statement? What sort of employer are we talking about here?

The sort interested in making a profit, why employ more people than you need?

Really? And what is your proof for this statement? What sort of employer are we talking about here?

Why do you think the government will miss it's targets on immigration? Why you you think the government is missing it's tax collection promises? Why do you think the NHS has long waiting queues? etc ...

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The sort interested in making a profit, why employ more people than you need?

There's that too

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Hard working unemployed people start their own businesses. There's plenty of opportunity out there

Great and who would they employ to exploit if everyone starts their own business?

There comes a point when the economy is saturated with small businesses. All they can do is share the service-providing around a bit (there is a limit to how many cupcakes or nailbars or windowcleaners the nation can use).

They often fail because they cannot benefit from economies of scale and because the people running them may be good at what they do (e.g. making cupcakes or cleaning windows), but they do not know enough about how to run and develop a business in a competitive market.

What is needed is greater support for essential services (health and education), even if that means higher taxes.