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Out of the "Would you buy an Apple watch" thread comes this question.

What exactly in your view would be the end of world poverty?

Enough to eat?

Holidays abroad?

Eradication of disease?

TV in every home.

Sanitation and clean water for all?

 

WHAT??

 

And could the Earth sustain it???

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Out of the "Would you buy an Apple watch" thread comes this question.

What exactly in your view would be the end of world poverty?

Enough to eat?

Holidays abroad?

Eradication of disease?

TV in every home.

Sanitation and clean water for all?

 

WHAT??

 

And could the Earth sustain it???

 

Enough to survive. Food, clothing, education. All of which is easily possible if we invest money in the right places, instead of holding billions in tax free offshore accounts.

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Enough to survive. Food, clothing, education. All of which is easily possible if we invest money in the right places, instead of holding billions in tax free offshore accounts.

 

When you do the math it is clearly not possible, there simply isn't enough for everyone the planet to all all the things you want them to have, cut the population and it would be possible.

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When you do the math it is clearly not possible, there simply isn't enough for everyone the planet to all all the things you want them to have, cut the population and it would be possible.

 

It would be though. Look at how the Comic/Sports relief charity spends their money. They give small loans to people who want to start their own business. The money is then paid back. And I'll bet you diamonds that the money made by these new businesses are not held in offshore accounts.

 

The amount of money made by large western corporate organisations would easily end world poverty, many times over! That is an undeniable fact!

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It would be though. Look at how the Comic/Sports relief charity spends their money. They give small loans to people who want to start their own business. The money is then paid back. And I'll bet you diamonds that the money made by these new businesses are not held in offshore accounts.

 

The amount of money made by large western corporate organisations would easily end world poverty, many times over! That is an undeniable fact!

 

Comic Relief

 

The July 2010 accounts for charity registration 326568 show grant payments of £59 million, net assets of £135 million, with an investment portfolio held in a range of managed pooled funds and fixed term deposits. The average full-time staff was 214, with 14 staff paid over £60,000 with remuneration for the year, excluding pensions, for Kevin Cahill, chief executive of £120,410.

 

Would you cut Kevin's wage?

 

Comic Relief has raised over £750 million, yet they have only payed out £59 million. How much as poverty dropped as a result of that £59 million spend.

 

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The amount of money made by large western corporate organisations would easily end world poverty, many times over! That is an undeniable fact!

 

If it is an undeniable fact it will be easy for you to prove it.

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Comic Relief

 

The July 2010 accounts for charity registration 326568 show grant payments of £59 million, net assets of £135 million, with an investment portfolio held in a range of managed pooled funds and fixed term deposits. The average full-time staff was 214, with 14 staff paid over £60,000 with remuneration for the year, excluding pensions, for Kevin Cahill, chief executive of £120,410.

 

Would you cut Kevin's wage?

 

Comic Relief has raised over £750 million, yet they have only payed out £59 million. How much as poverty dropped as a result of that £59 million spend.

 

If it is an undeniable fact it will be easy for you to prove it.

 

presumably the 750 million refers to the whole period they have been in operation and the 59 millions refers to just their 2010 financial year.

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Comic Relief

 

The July 2010 accounts for charity registration 326568 show grant payments of £59 million, net assets of £135 million, with an investment portfolio held in a range of managed pooled funds and fixed term deposits. The average full-time staff was 214, with 14 staff paid over £60,000 with remuneration for the year, excluding pensions, for Kevin Cahill, chief executive of £120,410.

 

Would you cut Kevin's wage?

 

Comic Relief has raised over £750 million, yet they have only payed out £59 million. How much as poverty dropped as a result of that £59 million spend.

 

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If it is an undeniable fact it will be easy for you to prove it.

 

If the wage is justifiable, then I don't begrudge it being paid. Charities the size of comic relief need to attract extremely skilled business men away from careers in banking and other lucrative roles.

 

Comic relief have helped save millions of life's and continue to do so. The money they raise from the public each year is a drop in the ocean compared to the $100 billion apple has in its tax free offshore accounts. Even the total £750 million!!

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There is plenty to go round if resources where shared appropriately and people were able to reap the rewards of their labour, without others wanting to make huge profits on the backs of others.

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There is plenty to go round if resources where shared appropriately and people were able to reap the rewards of their labour, without others wanting to make huge profits on the backs of others.

 

Well said sir! And there's more than enough cash held in accounts, doing nothing, that could be freed up to start the ball rolling.

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Throwing money at fixing poverty doesn't work, never has, never will. Reason is that the inherent mechanism of trying to fix it with money will destroy the system where the money came from.

 

If you want to solve world poverty you need to begin at the basics: allow (land) ownership everywhere and protect it sufficiently in legal terms, limit births to a sustainable level worldwide and educate the entire population, not just the chosen few.

 

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Well said sir! And there's more than enough cash held in accounts, doing nothing, that could be freed up to start the ball rolling.

 

Nonsense. As I said, if you were to use that mechanism you would destroy the system where the money came from. Karl Marx even knew this.

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When you do the math it is clearly not possible, there simply isn't enough for everyone the planet to all all the things you want them to have, cut the population and it would be possible.

 

You are so wrong sir. There is enough to go round, it's the distribution that is at fault.

Take food. Millions of tons of food is wasted every year. It's not so long ago that we had the wine lakes and bread mountains in the EU, remember that?

 

WE plough tons of food back into the ground, because it's the wrong shape or size to meet the supermarkets' exacting standards. We personally also waste tons of perfectly eatable food.

 

Most starvation is economic. Food is available but unaffordable. In the developing world, even as one area is starving, another is exporting food to pay off third world debt. We have hungry people and food banks in this country, but we are not short of food.

 

When there is a genuine famine it can be politically manufactured as in China during the sixties, and in Zimbabwe after the fall of Rhodesia. Politics is often responsible for failure to feed a population.

When Ireland was suffering from the potato famine in which millions starved, it was sitting next to the richest country on earth with the biggest ever empire which could have fed them ten times over but didn't.

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There is plenty to go round if resources where shared appropriately and people were able to reap the rewards of their labour, without others wanting to make huge profits on the backs of others.

 

How much of a cut in living standards are you prepared to take?

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