Anyone see this last night. It was about the Sheffield Pals (WW1) and the training camp up on Redmires. The troops practiced trench digging up on the moors. The aerial shots were quite clear but not so easy to see from the ground. Does anyone know exactly where the trenches are ?
The program was very interesting for me as I went to the Somme last year and visited the Sheffield Pals memorial. Quite moving.....
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I saw the end of the Time Flyers progam earlier this week - but missed the beginning about the Lodge Moor camp and "practice trenches". However I found the link below. It doesn't say exactly where the trenches are - and maybe that's a good thing - as the author says - they should be protected. One day I hope to have a snoop around them though. I once went to Beaumont Hamel on the Somme: the trenches there are well preserved. It's very moving to scrample up off the firing step, over the top and walk across no man's land.
I also read that many men had their last pint in the Three Merry Lads or the Sportsmans..
This is an ongoing post from one that was first put up by Col's regarding that prog about the Derwent Dams. Speaking for myself I found it very interesting. the overhead shots were outstanding. I already had two books by Vic Hallam showing pic's like the ones on film but the prog was better.
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Mod: Also see this thread for more on the Sheffield City Battalion (Sheffield Pals).
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It was good wasn't it. I too have Vic's books but the old film and aerial shots were very interesting. The shots of the circular overflows at Ladybower brought back scary memories for me. When I was about 16, a group of us would edge down the steps of these and see if we could look down into the hundred foot drop. Makes me weak at the knees just thinking about it.
Interesting to see shots of the Woodhead Tunnel area as well.
This is what Dave Macleod, presenter of the Time Flyers programme, said about the location of the above trenches on the Time Flyers' website after the Sheff Batt. programme was first aired.
"The training ground for the Sheffield City Battalion was on a small hill on Hallam Moor, immediately north of the Redmire reservoirs. I suppose it is not really thought of as in the Peak District since it is virtually on the outskirts of Sheffield. The ground is actually owned by the city council."
I watched a really interesting program yesterday on UK History about excavating a network of trenches in Flanders. Apparently WW1 trench systems are very rare, even in Belgium.
If as suggested above, the land is owned by the City Council, then there is an oppotunity to make more of it. Perhaps a band of happy volunteers (like a modern day Sheffield Pals) with an interest in local history could take the initiative. I guess the first job is to secure the future of the land to protect it from agriculture until a way forward is found.
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You may be pleased to know that the site of the old trenches is being studied and researched by a small group of amateur archaeologists, with help from the Institute of Lifelong Learning at the university. There isn't much to see, just 'humps and bumps', all the trenches have long since been filled in, either by man or nature.
Resurrecting this thread as some may be interested to know that since the Time Flyers programme, there have been additional mapping projects of the Redmires trenches, with more to follow.
The University of Sheffield's Institute for Lifelong Learning's lecturers and students are still determined to survey and map the entire area, and obtain protection for this site to preserve this unique and precious piece of Sheffield history.
You may be pleased to know that the site of the old trenches is being studied and researched by a small group of amateur archaeologists, with help from the Institute of Lifelong Learning at the university. There isn't much to see, just 'humps and bumps', all the trenches have long since been filled in, either by man or nature.
Mapping since your post has discovered that not ALL the trenches were backfilled! Interesting, n'est-ce pas?
My lecturer, Helen Ullathorne, has given permission for me to post her EM address here for local clubs, schools and organisations which would like information regarding the Redmires site.
Helen has been involved in the investigation and mapping on Hallam Moor and has produced an archaeological report which is extremely informative (I've read it myself and couldn't put it down).
Anyone who is interested in gleaning updates on the investigation of the site, or is interested in a speaker on the topic, please contact Helen Ullathorne at fcullath@pilsley84.freeserve.co.uk
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Hi Col's... I know it was a repeat but I missed it the first time so Im glad you put up that post. Regarding you taking risks on the shafts... boy.
