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02-08-2012, 12:31
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Friend of mine recently moved into a house where on the back garden a small dog is on a lead attatched to the shed, seems a bit cruel to me, but if it was you in this situation would you be leaving neigbours to get on with it, or is it something that you would report, without making it to obvious its you??
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02-08-2012, 12:33
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It does seem cruel, but I think as far as the RSPCA are concerned it depends on how long the chain is?
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02-08-2012, 12:40
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And wether its got any shelter from sun and rain and it must have a drink
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02-08-2012, 12:44
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All depends on the conditions doesn't it.
I don't have a dog, but provided it was a long enough chain, and as noted above, there's some shelter and water etc, I would imagine it's better outside than stuck indoors all day, especially if the owners are out in day etc.
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02-08-2012, 12:49
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It can move about a metre from the shed itself, I think they just dont want the dog running around the garden. But its the fact its there all night too. BUt your right, on the other hand it might not be cruel as its not inside all the time as you say..
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02-08-2012, 12:56
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Could your friend offer to take it for walks?
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02-08-2012, 14:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by *Ryan*
Friend of mine recently moved into a house where on the back garden a small dog is on a lead attatched to the shed, seems a bit cruel to me, but if it was you in this situation would you be leaving neigbours to get on with it, or is it something that you would report, without making it to obvious its you??
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hi *ryan*,this could be me writing this thread,same thing happened to me ,i actually phoned the rspca about my neighbours dog and they told me that if it's got shelter,food ,water and it can move around,even tho it's chained up,that my neighbour is not breaking any law,my neighbour got the dog from the pound and i actually thing it would have had a better quality of life if it had stopped there.it is never walked and kept behind a 6ft high fence,it is left outside for upto 12hrs a day it might not be legally wrong but i think it's morally wrong.
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02-08-2012, 15:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by *Ryan*
Friend of mine recently moved into a house where on the back garden a small dog is on a lead attatched to the shed, seems a bit cruel to me, but if it was you in this situation would you be leaving neigbours to get on with it, or is it something that you would report, without making it to obvious its you??
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Clearly they dont want him. Ask if you can adopt him.
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02-08-2012, 17:29
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Poor thing, what type of dog is it.
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02-08-2012, 17:53
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i had a Japanese Akita and he used to be outside on a chain most of the time he did have a big garden shed as shelter with food and water and also got walks every day but he liked to be out side all the time i also had the rspca phoned on me who came out to take a look at him and told me he was fine and well looked after and it was ok for him to be there the dog also had a fox who came to visit him every day and share his food with him i don,t think you should all be so fast to judge the person who own the dog before you have all the facts as like i say my dog hated to be in the house
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02-08-2012, 18:17
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I think Granma has the right idea. Your friend is a new neighbour and could be seen as doing a good neighbourly thing. Why antagonise your neighbours so soon after arriving.
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02-08-2012, 20:35
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If it can only move a metre from the shed , then that cant be right surely .
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02-08-2012, 21:13
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i had a Japanese Akita and he used to be outside on a chain most of the time he did have a big garden shed as shelter with food and water and also got walks every day but he liked to be out side all the time i also had the rspca phoned on me who came out to take a look at him and told me he was fine and well looked after and it was ok for him to be there the dog also had a fox who came to visit him every day and share his food with him i don,t think you should all be so fast to judge the person who own the dog before you have all the facts as like i say my dog hated to be in the house
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There are loads of breeds which may be happier to be outside, even in winter, if they are of a very heavily coated breed, and I agree that when it is done in the right way, having a dog sleep outside or be an 'outside dog' can be perfectly acceptable.
However, there are hundreds more ways of getting it wrong and I think that it's very easy to just presume that it's damaging to the dog because so many people who leave the dog outside on a chain don't do the best for the dog that they could.
For the record, as long as the dog can move around, has shelter and a drink, the RSPCA will do very little. Sadly for the dog, who sounds like s/he must be very lonely if they're spending all of the day and night split up from their pack, it is likely that the RSPCA will find that the owner in this case is meeting the standards as covered in law.
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02-08-2012, 21:21
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It doesn't happen to be a black and white dog in the s6 area is it?
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03-08-2012, 10:41
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My Mum has a corgi and he lives outside all the time. He has a large kennel, food and water and he is chained up, but its a long chain. He also gets walked twice a day. Is that cruel?
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03-08-2012, 10:58
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I reported a similar situation to the RSPCA a few years ago. They were as helpful as they could be. I think it was good for at least keeping the neighbours on their toes and making them think more about the dog.
I'd report it.
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03-08-2012, 11:03
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Why the need for a chain esp for a small Dog, dont any of you have Fences.
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03-08-2012, 11:04
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Quote:
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My Mum has a corgi and he lives outside all the time. He has a large kennel, food and water and he is chained up, but its a long chain. He also gets walked twice a day. Is that cruel?
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I don't want to offend but I do think that any dog left alone all of the time without company can't really be happy.
Dogs are a pack animal and don't choose to live a solitary life, walking twice a day might cover the dogs physical needs for exercise but its not really covering its emotional needs for the comfort and safety of a pack, it must spend hours laid there waiting and longing for the next interaction with its people.
I don't quite understand why people have dogs and then choose to leave them outside all of the time, so that they may as well not be there at all...just my opinion and you did ask.
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03-08-2012, 11:18
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Why the need for a chain esp for a small Dog, dont any of you have Fences.
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Thats the thing, either side its both hedges. Its as tho they cant be bothered to make a fence or fix the holes in the hedge.
The dog is a little cute yappy cockerspaniel I would say. Could offer to take for walks but they seem like their in all the time for that,to be honest it just seems like its on its own.
As another poster said its not legally wrong, but does seem a little morally wrong.
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03-08-2012, 11:42
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If its not left outside, it would be left inside, and with him only being young still, he is still into the ripping apart stage. Surely its better to be outside rather than shut in a crate/cage all day inside the house? Only reason for him being chained up is because he attacked the garden, and starting chewing things which has made him ill, so until he grows out of that, he will be chained. After that, he will have the run of the garden. He is left during the day as both my mum & stepdad have full time jobs.
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