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23-07-2012, 08:34
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I'm getting increasingly hacked off by the dominance of sport over real news on the BBC. Last night was a prime example when almost the entire evening news was given over to sport and the first item was about the cyclist who had won the Tour de France.
There was some other stuff between this item, something or other happening in Syria and some people shot in an American cinema, but after this brief interlude of real news it was back to the the sports report at the end of the news.
Sports should be confined to the sports report at the end and never intrude on real news in my opinion. It always used to be like that, but more and more the sports results are taking over the news, like a couple of weeks ago when a British tennis player lost at Wimbledon. It's not news, it's sport!
Take a look at last night's news. I've already made a complaint to the BBC, but we're going to be inundated with sports as news over the next three weeks with the Olympics I fear.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ws_22_07_2012/
There's just 4 1/2 minutes of real news in that "news" broadcast. They should rename it 'Sports at Ten'.
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23-07-2012, 11:23
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Since when did you become BBC News Editor.
Look up the word. News = a report of a recent event.
Just because you find the main headline not particuarly interesting does not mean its not news. A british sportsman wins a major event is news. The death, tragic as they are, happened yesterday and people already know - so they slip down the agenda. Syria - well in the mass viewers point of view - not particuarly interesting as its been rumbling on for months and nothing particuarly new developed. Editors will prioritise what the mass public want to see and hear particuarly when they have to chop and edit down to produce a short 10 minute Sunday night bulleten.
Maybe you should switch over to the full news 24 service if you want the lengthy in depth no stone unturned coverage - I bet that's what they will say when they respond to your complaint too. And dont tell me you have not got it becuase everyone at this stage should have some form of digital tv because they have turned the anologue signals off.
Of course we are going to be dominated by sport on certain channels. We have the Olympics. Its a major event happening in London. Its not been here for over 60 years. Whether you like it or not you really dont think a major broadcaster - particuarly the BBC is not going to broadcast it in full glory.
Just change the channel.
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23-07-2012, 11:33
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first 5 pages of the metro today was all sport-there is an entire section at the back dedicated to sport so why why why?
It took about 10 min to get through the actual news section today!
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23-07-2012, 11:35
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first 5 pages of the metro today was all sport-there is an entire section at the back dedicated to sport so why why why?
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Because you are not the paper's editor.
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23-07-2012, 11:41
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Because you are not the paper's editor.
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you're sharp!
I am one of the readers so my opinion is relevant.
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23-07-2012, 11:47
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Speaking personally I prefer up to date news, the up to date news at the moment is that Bradley Wiggins has won the TDF, well done to him. Don't forget there is a few more weeks to come of sport dominating the papers, with the stupid Olympics about to start.
Normally it's doom & gloom, and as said news is relevant &, the sport is most relevant at moment in time.
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23-07-2012, 12:05
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There's definitely a case for a dedicated BBC sports channel where all you sports fans can get as much sport as you like and leave the rest of us in peace.
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23-07-2012, 12:06
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you're sharp!
I am one of the readers so my opinion is relevant.
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Your opinion would be relevant if you had offered an opinion. All you did was ask a question.
Even then, though, given that Metro has a target audience of about eight million people, your opinion carries almost no weight at all, unless at least four million people share it. The editors clearly believe that most people consider sport to be "real news."
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23-07-2012, 12:08
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I quite agree! I am considering moving into my garage where there is no tv for the next three weeks just to escape the tedious coverage we have already started to get.
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23-07-2012, 12:26
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Shame on the BBC for covering a stupid bike race. I mean, it's not like a British person has ever won the Tour de France before 
To the naysayers... yesterday's events were pretty historic so, in my opinion, the BBC and whoever else were right to plug it to death. If you don't like, don't watch or simply turn the page 
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23-07-2012, 12:32
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No, sport is not news.
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23-07-2012, 12:37
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No, sport is not news.
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Definition of news
noun
[mass noun]newly received or noteworthy information, especially about recent events:
I’ve got some good news for you(the news) a broadcast or published report of news:
he was back in the news again(news to) informal information not previously known to (someone):
this was hardly news to hera person or thing considered interesting enough to be reported in the news:
Chanel became the hottest news in fashion.
Using the above definition, I would say the reporting of a great sporting achievement is news
Last edited by Agent Orange; 23-07-2012 at 12:41.
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23-07-2012, 12:49
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Definition of news
noun
[mass noun]newly received or noteworthy information, especially about recent events:
I’ve got some good news for you(the news) a broadcast or published report of news:
he was back in the news again(news to) informal information not previously known to (someone):
this was hardly news to hera person or thing considered interesting enough to be reported in the news:
Chanel became the hottest news in fashion.
Using the above definition, I would say the reporting of a great sporting achievement is news
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Who decides what is noteworthy though?
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23-07-2012, 12:54
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There is a difference between everyday sports coverage and newsworthy, great sporting achievements. I'd say Bradley's win comes in the second category.
You might as well say that when Edmund Hilary conquered Everest, it wasn't newsworthy, as Mountaineering is only a sport. Or Roger Bannister's 4-minute-mile didn't deserve to be in the news proper (assuming it was of course, I wasn't around at the time).
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23-07-2012, 12:56
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To be fair,it's nice to see a Brit win something other than a pub sport-Phil Taylor,Ronnie O'Sullivan etc -and as it's never happened before it is worthy of front page news.
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23-07-2012, 12:57
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Who decides what is noteworthy though?
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The programme producers have that task. By and large, they take "noteworthy" to be whatever is of interest to a large chunk of the populace.
Perhaps your complaint should be against the umpty-umpt millions of people who say that sport is noteworthy.. if they all dropped dead of a heart attack, you would get your wish.
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23-07-2012, 12:59
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It is news though.
Rarely do we get some happy news these days and even if the Beeb do it to death for a day or so then so be it.
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23-07-2012, 13:06
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Originally Posted by HeadingNorth
Your opinion would be relevant if you had offered an opinion. All you did was ask a question.
Even then, though, given that Metro has a target audience of about eight million people, your opinion carries almost no weight at all, unless at least four million people share it. The editors clearly believe that most people consider sport to be "real news."
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it wasn't a question and I wasn't claiming that my opinion carries much weight but collectively each of our opinions count. The editors aren't always right are they!
I didn't mind that being front page news, although I don't care. I was annoyed that sport carried on for the next four pages even though the latter half of the paper is a sports section.
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Last edited by llamatron; 23-07-2012 at 13:08.
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23-07-2012, 14:50
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Originally Posted by Nagel
I'm getting increasingly hacked off by the dominance of sport over real news on the BBC. Last night was a prime example when almost the entire evening news was given over to sport and the first item was about the cyclist who had won the Tour de France.
There was some other stuff between this item, something or other happening in Syria and some people shot in an American cinema, but after this brief interlude of real news it was back to the the sports report at the end of the news.
Sports should be confined to the sports report at the end and never intrude on real news in my opinion. It always used to be like that, but more and more the sports results are taking over the news, like a couple of weeks ago when a British tennis player lost at Wimbledon. It's not news, it's sport!
Take a look at last night's news. I've already made a complaint to the BBC, but we're going to be inundated with sports as news over the next three weeks with the Olympics I fear.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ws_22_07_2012/
There's just 4 1/2 minutes of real news in that "news" broadcast. They should rename it 'Sports at Ten'. |
I agree with you before it starts all we hear is the Olimpics for me it is London that will benifit from the games not me in Inverness even though I as a tax payer have paid the cost of it.
The BBC are well out of order using 75% of air time for the Olimpics.
It is all London 2012 not the rest of the UK.
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23-07-2012, 14:54
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