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29-04-2012, 14:04   #141
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So what you've done there is repeat that you'll have time to stop without explaining how. If someone leaps in front of your car there will be no time to react.
Admittedly at lower speed any injuries would be reduced,
Worth it then dont you agree?
Slowing down i mean.

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but it was a police car speeding
Theres the difference

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in the course of the officers duties
What was the emergency exactly?

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nothing wrong or unusual about that.
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Some one died.
Id say thats wrong and unusual

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According to you.
Scuse me?

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What's obvious is that you're not interested in the evidence or what actually happened.
Your mixing me up with heading north on that one.
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29-04-2012, 14:05   #142
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By the way can we not do that disecting peoples posts thing please.
Im no good at it and i usually make a mistake and quote the wrong thing lol
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29-04-2012, 14:20   #143
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What makes you think it werent?
That's not an answer. Do you know what the call was and who made it?
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29-04-2012, 15:00   #144
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That's not an answer. Do you know what the call was and who made it?
I know it wasnt a serious emergency other wise hed have had his bs and 2s on and so wouldnt have ended up in court.
How is you police man friend now he has the death of a young man on his concience?
Or is he over his trauma and back to work as normal?
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29-04-2012, 16:41   #145
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So the police should drive slowly all the time in case an idiot runs in front of them.
I'm guessing you don't drive if you think it's always possible to stop when the unexpected happens.
I didn't say that. They need to drive in such a manner as to not make things worse. What's the point in catching a burglar if you kill a child to get there! The speed and manner of driving need to be appropriate. On some roads, that would mean say 80mph might be okay at certain times, 20mph at others. It depends on what the driver can see and how he/she can prepare for the unexpected.
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29-04-2012, 16:42   #146
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There is no evidence to suggest that it hasn't been this time.
Apart from the fact that a Police officer has got off scot-free after killing a pedestrian whilst speeding.
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29-04-2012, 16:44   #147
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Apart from the fact that a Police officer has got off scot-free after killing a pedestrian whilst speeding.
Its the law of the land.
A coppers job is worth more than a kids life
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29-04-2012, 16:45   #148
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If it would have been anyone else they would have got life its disgusting
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29-04-2012, 16:48   #149
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If it would have been anyone else they would have got life its disgusting
Its fine. It was only a member of the public who died.
A young man with his whole life in front of him.
It really isnt all that important.
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29-04-2012, 18:47   #150
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Apart from the fact that a Police officer has got off scot-free after killing a pedestrian whilst speeding.
Are you saying that the trial wasn't fair or that the jury was tampered with, those are serious allegations.
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29-04-2012, 18:49   #151
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Worth it then dont you agree?
Slowing down i mean.
No. It's a balance to strike, how much harm would be done by the police not being able to speed?
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What was the emergency exactly?
You must already know to be commenting on the issue.
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Some one died.
Id say thats wrong and unusual
It's unfortunate, but a jury has determined that it wasn't the officers fault.

No, I'm not mixing you up at all, you're not interested in the evidence, you're not interested in that due process was followed you just keep repeating an allegation that you can't substantiate.
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29-04-2012, 18:52   #152
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What makes you think it werent?
By the by, i have personally known police to maipulate evidence, lie in statements, coerse witnesses and victims all in the name of protecting their own.
Its called corruption and its rife.
This masn died at the hands of the law and the law walks free once again.
We are on a slippery slope.
There we go, axe to grind, not interested in what actually happened in this case. You've been quite obvious all along.
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29-04-2012, 18:54   #153
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Apart from the fact that a Police officer has got off scot-free after killing a pedestrian whilst speeding.
Speeding in the course of his duty, as the police are entitled to do.
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29-04-2012, 19:04   #154
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Apart from the fact that a Police officer has got off scot-free after killing a pedestrian whilst speeding.
But he wasn't a pedestrian was he, he was effectively jay walking, his friend admitted he tried to beat a speeding car by running in front of it so therefore he was in the road. Not condoning speeding but let's get some perspective here
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29-04-2012, 19:07   #155
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I think this thread has run its course. There are those who continually post with a plain axe to grind irrespective of the evidence in this case -that they do not know the full details of because they were not in court -and spout its a police officer and he's been acquitted when he should not.

The man was prosecuted - and note not for dangerous driving and I am not about to tell you what the legal definition of that is you can look for yourself.
The case was heard by a Judge and Jury. Witnesses gave evidence and were no doubt cross-examined. The jury came to a conclusion.
That is our system and it applies to everyone just the same as it does police officers.

What more can the system do ?-
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29-04-2012, 19:23   #156
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Speeding in the course of his duty, as the police are entitled to do.
Not without due care and attention!

We have irresolvable differences on this, so I'm going to do something more interesting. Bye.
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29-04-2012, 19:29   #157
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I know it wasnt a serious emergency other wise hed have had his bs and 2s on and so wouldnt have ended up in court.
How many times does it have to be pointed out to you that using blues-and-twos is not a mandatory requirement when responding to an emergency?
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29-04-2012, 19:31   #158
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Not without due care and attention!
He was paying due care and attention - at least, in the opinion of the witnesses who were friends of the dead boy, in the opinion of the crash investigators who covered the incident, and in the opinion of the legal experts for the IPCC; not to mention the opinion of the twelve jurors.

Why are you so convinced that you know more details than all of those people put together?
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29-04-2012, 22:31   #159
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How many times does it have to be pointed out to you that using blues-and-twos is not a mandatory requirement when responding to an emergency?
Would have prevented a death in this case though.
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29-04-2012, 22:32   #160
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He was paying due care and attention - at least, in the opinion of the witnesses who were friends of the dead boy, in the opinion of the crash investigators who covered the incident, and in the opinion of the legal experts for the IPCC; not to mention the opinion of the twelve jurors.

Why are you so convinced that you know more details than all of those people put together?
Maybe we dont like taking the opinion of the coppers mate being presented as fact.
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