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12-01-2012, 16:39
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Originally Posted by ohmyword
Well, there's privacy and then there's privacy (I did the second one in italic because of the emphasis).
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and there are pointless threads and pointless threads
there is overreaction and overreaction
see what i did there.
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12-01-2012, 16:46
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Well no I didn't, but imagine if I had?!! The only reason the conversation broke down was when I rumbled her. What if I'd not rumbled her? I wonder who else has been taped and what information she has gotten?
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Chill out man!!
Why not listen to some groovy Sheffield tunes!
I wonder if the driver new he was being taped?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b79GukKAHtI
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12-01-2012, 19:22
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I suspect one reason for the taping would be so that the company can analyse the conversations and get to work on new strategies to get donations/bank details out of people.
They're basically trained to work on a script- any objection the victims come up with are seen as 'objections' to be overcome- the company devises scripts which cover all possible objections and link each to an appropriate response, designed to break down the victims will to keep saying 'no'.
e.g.-
http://www.sellingandpersuasiontechn...bjections.html
So it's in the companies interests to collect new objections and also modify any parts of the script that aren't working- recorded interactions from 'the field' will obviously be very useful for that.
I simply avoid the problem by not entering into conversation with clipboarders
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Shaw
Telephones: yes.
Otherwise: doubt it.
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Actually, i think it's perfectly legal to record phone conversations- it's just that they can't be used as evidence in court if you don't inform the other person that you're recording?
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13-01-2012, 07:34
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Originally Posted by ohmyword
DaFoot asks me this:
"So she may have a recording of your voice. So what?"
So would you not be bothered if a random survey woman did a recording of you speaking? In this day and age of stuff such as fraud and identity theft and the like. Come on now! It was only when I pointed it out that she even said anything about it. She was truly rumbled by me. RUMBLED!
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Not at all.
I'm not going to hand over any personal info to a random that asks me in the street, so she wouldn't get it on the recorder.
With just my voice I fail to see how 'she' (or others that get the recording) could do much - banks etc that I talk to on the phone don't attempt to authenticate me with my voice but with a series of passwords and personal questions.
Quite possible people on trams, buses, in pubs etc etc have recorded me. So what? I can't stop it and there's precious little anyone could do with my voice alone. No different to the person writing down what they hear, do you object to that too?
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13-01-2012, 08:00
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You should have pulled the thing off her and shouted into it 'TESTING, TESTING, 1, 2' like some kind of nutter.
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13-01-2012, 09:57
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I think this was the same woman that approached my brother about donating to Africa! I dont know whether she had a tape,but he gave her a mouthful about not donating to Africa & to think about needy people in our own country,then stormed off .
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13-01-2012, 10:16
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Originally Posted by Vulcan B2
I'm sure somebody will come along and shoot me down if I'm wrong.......
But my understanding of the law is that if you are going to record somebody you have to inform them first???
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Shaw
Telephones: yes.
Otherwise: doubt it.
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Only one person in the call needs to know that it's being recorded. Feel free to record away.
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13-01-2012, 10:43
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Originally Posted by DaFoot
Not at all.
I'm not going to hand over any personal info to a random that asks me in the street, so she wouldn't get it on the recorder.
With just my voice I fail to see how 'she' (or others that get the recording) could do much - banks etc that I talk to on the phone don't attempt to authenticate me with my voice but with a series of passwords and personal questions.
Quite possible people on trams, buses, in pubs etc etc have recorded me. So what? I can't stop it and there's precious little anyone could do with my voice alone. No different to the person writing down what they hear, do you object to that too?
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I see your point certainly. I think it's the very fact that these people can be so intrusive that upset me greatly. Obviously I know better now and there are some interesting points raised about recording people in the street of their home town. Ludicrous behaviour by the Africa survey lady, but hey ho, I'll avoid her in future.
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13-01-2012, 10:44
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Originally Posted by hard2miss
You should have pulled the thing off her and shouted into it 'TESTING, TESTING, 1, 2' like some kind of nutter. 
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Haha. I really like the mental image that this idea creates in my head! Ha!! Thing is though, I'd be too nervous to do this. I'd feel a bit humiliated possibly. Very good idea though for those who are mighty and fearless!
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13-01-2012, 13:24
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Originally Posted by ohmyword
This is worrying - very worrying indeed. OK, I was walking down Fargate yesterday (the road where lots of the shops are in the city centre). A person approached me with a badge (she was wearing a badge). I can't remember where she said she was from. Anyway, she proceeded to ask me a series of questions about giving money to those in need of more money and water etc etc. This was all very well and I thought she was doing some sort of survey. I am happy to help these survey people as long as I have the time of course. Anyway, after a couple of minutes (between 1 and 2 minutes say), I noticed she had a little plastic device affixed to a bag she was carrying. I looked again and it was one of those micro tape recorder things you can get in the electrical shops. What on earth?!! She was recording me!! Taping my every word onto a little micro tape recorder thing! I said to her "Are you recording? Why are you recording?". She just gave an answer that she had obviously rehearsed and practiced it many times probably in the mirror). I left and walked away so fast and then went to Starbucks where I tried to think about what had just happened. It's just odd. Very odd indeed. Has anyone else had this kind of issue lately?
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Yeah, I went into Starbucks. It was odd - it tasted like they'd already brewed coffee through the grinds about 20 times. Certainly not what I'd call coffee.
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13-01-2012, 13:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hard2miss
You should have pulled the thing off her and shouted into it 'TESTING, TESTING, 1, 2' like some kind of nutter. 
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  And don't forget 'Mary had a little lamb'. And if that fails, you could always try, 'Is anybody there, come out of that box, where are you?'
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