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Old 08-11-2009, 19:07   #21
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Asinine and simplistic.
i suppose mary rode on an ass..

is it any more simple than the follower who cant explain the meaning of life so lives by an ancient book written in a time when civilisation was embryonic and savage?
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Old 08-11-2009, 19:12   #22
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i suppose mary rode on an ass..

is it any more simple than the follower who cant explain the meaning of life so lives by an ancient book written in a time when civilisation was embryonic and savage?
And there you have it...........follower. Why is that people need something to follow? Must we be led in all things? Can we not be independent of thought at least?
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Old 08-11-2009, 19:18   #23
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i suppose mary rode on an ass..
Out of the bible this is what you want to highlight as a fault?


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is it any more simple than the follower who cant explain the meaning of life so lives
Why should a believer explain the 'meaning of life', the concept is so stupid it's akin to asking what is the meaning of a cup.
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by an ancient book written in a time when civilisation was embryonic and savage?
I highlighted the contradiction for you.
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Old 08-11-2009, 19:39   #24
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What would you call a 'love affair' in which one party tells the other that they'll be punished if they don't worship them? .
Sounds like someone should call Cosmic Social Services.
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Old 08-11-2009, 19:57   #25
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Why should a believer explain the 'meaning of life', the concept is so stupid it's akin to asking what is the meaning of a cup.
Ah, but, Ford, you have to understand the essential "cup-ness" that is the china that is the cup, not the heretical plastic cup, that has no essence of cup-ness within it...

The three-in-one-ness of the inside, the outside and the handle, that is the basis of Crockeryinity....
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Old 08-11-2009, 22:57   #26
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Out of the bible this is what you want to highlight as a fault?
how unintelligent of you to not take the double meaning of a word you used..

and a cup has a meaning, it is designed and created by man to hold fluids.


and to say a civilisation can not be savage is plain absurd. the weak can have great strength and the strong can show weakness. paradoxes are everywhere in life.
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Old 08-11-2009, 23:31   #27
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And there you have it...........follower. Why is that people need something to follow? Must we be led in all things? Can we not be independent of thought at least?
yes, i agree with what you say.
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:00   #28
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And there you have it...........follower. Why is that people need something to follow? Must we be led in all things? Can we not be independent of thought at least?
When we delve deeper into theology of Abrahamic concept of God and the system of one punishment and reward, it is clear at early stages that people were given much more independence to decide for themselves but under guidance. The punishments were left for the here after. This however seems to have changed with strong men appointing themselves religious authority and taking it upon themselves to serve God's punishments upon people. They leave God's compassion for the here after but punishment is what they are interested in for now. Yet in reality they should have no power to practice either.

The religious scholars have been used by all to twist theology to suite the system. What may have worked in theory then suddenly becomes an oppressive system of rigid rules starving the populace of oxygen of freedom.
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:03   #29
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how unintelligent of you to not take the double meaning of a word you used..
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and a cup has a meaning, it is designed and created by man to hold fluids.
That is a purpose not a meaning, care to try again?

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and to say a civilisation can not be savage is plain absurd.
I think you will find it isn't, I shall save some of your grace by not posting the definitions, their etymology and use, I am sure you have some ability to look this up yourself. However if you want to press me on this, I shall be more than happy to show you wrong.

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ProTip: That isn't a paradox.
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:09   #30
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Go to him who is the disbeliever and show him how harsh you can be. Which religious book is that from?
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:51   #31
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Go to him who is the disbeliever and show him how harsh you can be. Which religious book is that from?
All of them?
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:52   #32
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That is a purpose not a meaning, care to try again?


I think you will find it isn't, I shall save some of your grace by not posting the definitions, their etymology and use, I am sure you have some ability to look this up yourself. However if you want to press me on this, I shall be more than happy to show you wrong.


ProTip: That isn't a paradox.
can't be bothered to try again and argue about semantics. It's quite ironic that your pulling me up on my use of word when you don't know what the words you use are.

You bore me.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:01   #33
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can't be bothered to try again and argue about semantics.
So in essence you can't be bothered to jump through hoops to try make 'meaning' equivalent to 'purpose', good I don't blame you as it would be a fruitless task.

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It's quite ironic that your pulling me up on my use of word when you don't know what the words you use are.
Which words?

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You bore me.
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Old 09-11-2009, 11:36   #34
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Old 09-11-2009, 11:42   #35
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The problem with the Bible is that most modern editions omit the preface which states "קנדי היקרה. כל הדמויות המופיעות בספר זה הן פרי הדמיון. כל קשר ביניהן לאירועים או דמויות אמיתיות אחרות הוא מקרי בלבד."

This translates into English as; "To my darling Bernard. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitious and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental."
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