The Consequences of Brexit [part 4]

Euro now stronger than the pound for holiday makers. £1=€0.88

 

This is the price of brexit, and its only going to get more expensive.

 

Narrow minded racists bigots got us into this state... can't afford to wait until they realise it is suicide.

 

Many leavers I know are now regretting it and want to change their minds - and yet democracy won't let them.

 

Another referendum now - before it is too late!

Anybody who changes money at the airport shouldn't be allowed out on their own.

Strange how the people who accuse others of being bigots are the most bigoted.

All the remoaners we know have accepted the referendum result, so it's probably time the rest of you stopped sulking.

Get on with carrying out the will of the people.

Less than 35 percent voted to remain.

Anybody who changes money at the airport shouldn't be allowed out on their own.

Strange how the people who accuse others of being bigots are the most bigoted.

All the remoaners we know have accepted the referendum result, so it's probably time the rest of you stopped sulking.

Get on with carrying out the will of the people.

Less than 35 percent voted to remain.

Perhaps you'd care to explain to us how an 'Advisory' referendum suddenly became Gospel carved in stone?

While you're at it, maybe you could tell us why, when it looked as though Remain was going to win Farage said " If it's 52% to 48% to Remain it's unfinished business " and yet when it turned out 52% to 48% the other way around it's all a done deal and us Remainers are supposed to 'get over it'?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjHtJmAtp_VAhVHJMAKHbSXDk4QFghDMAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmetro.co.uk%2F2016%2F06%2F24%2Fremember-that-time-nigel-farage-said-52-48-votes-should-lead-to-second-referendum-5963900%2F&usg=AFQjCNEGB8WognSUnWwW-gn-fExejog69Q

By the way, 'remoaners' how old are you, 12?

In this brave new world of freedom that has been granted to us by people that voted with no idea as to what it would mean , and is being delivered to us by people who are arguing among themselves and appear incapable of carrying out their responsibilities in any believable manner is opposition not allowed?

Do we have a Fascist State to look forward to in this brave new world of the Brexiteers?

No alternative views allowed?

The Dutch are begging for UKippers,

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/831975/Dutch-fishermen-UK-EU-Brexit-fishing-waters

The Dutch are begging for UKippers,

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/831975/Dutch-fishermen-UK-EU-Brexit-fishing-waters

Theresa May has told all the fish they can only swim in UK waters.

And now some reality:

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/brexit-explained/common-fisheries-policy

After Brexit, what happens to the UK fishing industry?

In its White Paper, the Government recognised the interdependence of the UK and EU fishing industries, stating it would seek “a mutually beneficial deal that works for the UK and the EU’s fishing communities”.

However in the June 2017 Queen's Speech, the Government announced a 'Fisheries Bill' for the upcoming Parliamentary session. Its purpose is to "enable the UK to control access to its waters and set UK fishing quotas once it has left the EU."

Iceland argues that being outside of the CFP allows it to implement its own fisheries policy, so it stands to reason that the UK could develop fisheries policy that better suits the needs of the UK fleet and the types of fishing we engage in.

But the UK has also been allocated €243.1m in subsidies between 2014 and 2020 under the CFP. After Brexit, those subsidies will end. The Government will need to consider whether to continue subsidising the fishing industry. It may, however, provide more support to fishing, as we would no longer have to comply with EU competition rules which limit national funding.

Can the UK do whatever it wants with fisheries policy after Brexit?

The transnational nature of fisheries may limit the UK’s options after leaving the CFP.

Setting unilateral quotas would likely cause international disputes, such as the ‘mackerel wars’ of 2010-11, when negotiations between the European Commission and Iceland and the Faroe Islands broke down.

It is likely that the UK would have to continue negotiating its total allowable catch after Brexit, with it signed up to international agreements that require it to ensure “proper conservation” of fish stocks and to co-operate with regional or global organisations in achieving this, especially where stocks are shared.

The UK’s ability to restrict access to its waters may be limited by historical claims by European fishermen. In the past, tribunals and international courts have often ruled in favour of historic access rights to waters and against those looking to limit access.

Theresa May has told all the fish they can only swim in UK waters.

 

 

 

 

And now some reality:

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/brexit-explained/common-fisheries-policy

 

After Brexit, what happens to the UK fishing industry?

 

In its White Paper, the Government recognised the interdependence of the UK and EU fishing industries, stating it would seek “a mutually beneficial deal that works for the UK and the EU’s fishing communities”.

 

However in the June 2017 Queen's Speech, the Government announced a 'Fisheries Bill' for the upcoming Parliamentary session. Its purpose is to "enable the UK to control access to its waters and set UK fishing quotas once it has left the EU."

 

Iceland argues that being outside of the CFP allows it to implement its own fisheries policy, so it stands to reason that the UK could develop fisheries policy that better suits the needs of the UK fleet and the types of fishing we engage in.

 

But the UK has also been allocated €243.1m in subsidies between 2014 and 2020 under the CFP. After Brexit, those subsidies will end. The Government will need to consider whether to continue subsidising the fishing industry. It may, however, provide more support to fishing, as we would no longer have to comply with EU competition rules which limit national funding.

 

Can the UK do whatever it wants with fisheries policy after Brexit?

 

The transnational nature of fisheries may limit the UK’s options after leaving the CFP.

 

Setting unilateral quotas would likely cause international disputes, such as the ‘mackerel wars’ of 2010-11, when negotiations between the European Commission and Iceland and the Faroe Islands broke down.

 

It is likely that the UK would have to continue negotiating its total allowable catch after Brexit, with it signed up to international agreements that require it to ensure “proper conservation” of fish stocks and to co-operate with regional or global organisations in achieving this, especially where stocks are shared.

 

The UK’s ability to restrict access to its waters may be limited by historical claims by European fishermen. In the past, tribunals and international courts have often ruled in favour of historic access rights to waters and against those looking to limit access.

And only the British can fish for them, the EU can beg.

And only the British can fish for them, the EU can beg.

You must have missed this:

The UK’s ability to restrict access to its waters may be limited by historical claims by European fishermen. In the past, tribunals and international courts have often ruled in favour of historic access rights to waters and against those looking to limit access.

The Dutch are begging for UKippers,

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/831975/Dutch-fishermen-UK-EU-Brexit-fishing-waters

I like how the picture of herring is showing flatfish and how we are talking about a 5 mile strip, but hey, let's report it as desparation on behalf of Dutch fishermen, because that way we can make fun of the EU.

By the way, the first guy talking about 'small seas' is an idiot, there are plenty in the Dutch fishing industry, I should know, I grew up with them. Cod recently became sustainable again due to EU intervention - the fishery policy works for the EU and the UK.

The Brexit myth of Fishing:

While the total amount of quota is set at the EU level (negotiated by fishing ministers), it is up to the UK government to distribute that quota to its fleet. There is currently pressure on the UK government from various groups and our own research findings, to change quota allocation rules to preserve fishing in coastal communities like North Shields and address inequality in the fishing sector.

This issue of national rules is also relevant to the complaint of foreign vessels in our waters as some of these vessels that are actually registered and flagged in the UK and have purchased quotas from (willing) UK fishers. This practice would not change under Brexit and is the equivalent of blaming the EU for foreign ownership in the Premier league. Instead, if this foreign ownership is seen as an issue then it would be for the UK government to make laws about landing a certain percentage of catch in the UK, for example.

In a joint letter to The Times, a dozen fisheries experts and previous fisheries ministers called on George Eustice, the current fisheries minister, to stop pointing his finger at Europe and act now to change UK’s quota allocation rules. If sustainable fishing jobs are to return to North Shields, this is the type of action that is required.

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Notes: http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/businessreview/2016/05/28/dont-blame-the-eu-for-the-troubles-of-the-fishing-industry-in-the-uk/

I like how the picture of herring is showing flatfish and how we are talking about a 5 mile strip, but hey, let's report it as desparation on behalf of Dutch fishermen, because that way we can make fun of the EU.

 

By the way, the first guy talking about 'small seas' is an idiot, there are plenty in the Dutch fishing industry, I should know, I grew up with them. Cod recently became sustainable again due to EU intervention - the fishery policy works for the EU and the UK.

You mean those who have been making a living at the expense of UK fishing industry.

You mean those who have been making a living at the expense of UK fishing industry.

What, just like the British fishermen are making a living at the expense of the Icelandic fishermen? Grow up Peter, you are too old to be so naive.

And only the British can fish for them, the EU can beg.

Good luck enforcing that. Last I heard, the UK has 3 boats to deal with the issue.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-brexit-bankers/

 

"London could lose 10,000 banking jobs and 20,000 roles in financial services as clients move 1.8 trillion euros ($2.1 trillion) of assets out of the U.K. on Brexit, according to think-tank Bruegel. The implications for the U.K. are substantial: finance and related professional services bring in some £190 billion ($248 billion) a year, representing 12 percent of the British economy."

 

Wasn't this all just project fear?

Could? It will. Even if Brexit is stopped it is still too late. Part of my job involves helping companies make these moves (thankfully all of them at present are just partial relocations)

To be honest I'm not a big fan of the city and we do need to restructure to reduce our reliance on it, and the risk it places on our economy. A bit of trimming back will be a good thing, and don't worry about the bankers because as individuals they aren't fazed by any of this, not the ones I've dealt withb anyway. They will be ok wherever they go.