Should pupils be paid to go to school to cut truancies?

John · 07-09-2003, 10:32

Would a child age, say 14 onward be more tempted to go to school if they were paid say £10 (Possibily more) if they turn up for school for a whole week.

If they miss one day in that week, they don't get any of it.

Lickszz · 07-09-2003, 13:13

Sounds good in theory. What happens if they are genuinely ill. I take it that this would be attendance as a whole. In which case these pupils would be missing out on the £10 through no fault of their own.

DaBouncer · 07-09-2003, 13:20

Hell No. Their incentive should be to get good qualifications and be able to support themselves (and possibly families) in later life, coupled with the fact that more truenting 'may' send their parents for a stretch in Doncatraz.

I wouldn't want any more of MY tax money 'wasted' on paying kids to go to school, which by law they have to do in any case!

However, why don't the parents adopt the idea if they think it is a good idea!

RPG · 07-09-2003, 13:24

they should give money to the kids who dont need incentives to turn up :/

i bearly missed a single day of school (even when i was ill!) and received nowt

scaja · 07-09-2003, 14:21

Paid to stay at school, nice thought, for the students that is my question would be who would pay for it?

I never got paid to go to school and I don't think it should start now.

John · 07-09-2003, 14:31

As for being ill, A doctors note should cover it I think unless someone can come up with a better system.

OK £10 isn't much - A Question DB raised is valid, why should they waste more of my TAX money?

That £10 would be spent on something - what ever they buy would benefit many businesses locally, in turn keep people in Jobs which means less chance of being unemployed in which case you TAX is being spent this way instead.

Most of that £10 would end up in the pocket of the Tax man anyway. So you really didn't contribute much of that £10.

More so, Kids are bored, would that £10 keep them out of trouble for a weekend? I.E. Spend it on cinema, Rent a video out or go ice skating? This lead to the question would crime be reduce?

RPG · 07-09-2003, 14:46

grr!!

Im bored!! but i dont go out commiting crimes because of it, its a sorry state of affairs where we have to think of paying off kids not to commit crime.

plus do you *really* think kids who have the mindset of commiting crimes would go out to the local ice rink with lashings of root beer

no, they'd spend it on a jumbo bottle of lambrusco or 3 packets of fags :/

chill · 07-09-2003, 14:58

I don't think kids should be paid to go to school, I do think the parents should be fined if they don't turn up.

upholder · 07-09-2003, 16:35

You are allways going to get truancy from schools if you pay the pupil to attend or not. Why not give them another incentive like something interesting to do when they are there. If a pupil isn't academically minded then let the pupil do a vocational course instead or what ever. At least they will be at school and learning something.

alchresearch · 07-09-2003, 16:52

A better idea is:

Put in a full week at school and you don't get caned.

*Twinkle* · 07-09-2003, 17:14

There is the EMA (education maintenance allowance) being pilotted in sheffield. This means that students can get from £5 to £30 a week for meeting a learning agreement set up by the school or college. (For sixformers and college students only)
It is sort of an incentive to go, but its not the only reason I turn up.

kittykat · 07-09-2003, 18:00

If they dont want to be there they wont learn anything anyway so whats the point. Also its not fair giving money to truanting pupils yet none at all to good pupils. A lot of kids at our sixth form, got £30 a week for going but i got nothing just cos my parents earned more than £21'000. Why do they automatically assume my parents actually give me any money? I had to get a crappy job and pay for my own books and everything. Same goes for student loans and financial help for uni - i cant get any at all and my loan is £1500 a year (!!!???) just cos my dad had works hard, earns enough to be comfortable and pays a hell of a lot more tax than a lot of people. Hes not giving me an allowance or anything or contributing in any way. Im 18 - he has no obligation to so why dont i get any more than anyone else? oh no ive got to skivvy in some crappy posh department store and be at the beck and call of posh snobs who compain about everything.

DaBouncer · 07-09-2003, 19:27

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Originally posted by alchresearch
A better idea is:

Put in a full week at school and you don't get caned.

That idea I like!

DaBouncer · 07-09-2003, 19:29

Quote:

Originally posted by kittykat
Im 18 - he has no obligation to so why dont i get any more than anyone else? oh no ive got to skivvy in some crappy posh department store and be at the beck and call of posh snobs who compain about everything.

I see now where you get the 'against people with money or snobs] as you put it.
I know what you mean, i was in a similar situation when i was your age kitty!

True... it isn't fair.

Phanerothyme · 07-09-2003, 19:40

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Originally posted by alchresearch
A better idea is:

Put in a full week at school and you don't get caned.

ROFL - not much of an incentive

getting caned = getting 'high' (in the lingua franca of the 'street')

Lickszz · 07-09-2003, 23:27

Quote:

Originally posted by alchresearch
A better idea is:

Put in a full week at school and you don't get caned.

I recommend these thoughts and words to head of Education. With my compliments to the provider.

Lickszz · 18-10-2003, 22:13

I read the following on some joke website the other day and it made me laugh but also made me think:

Quote:

Automated Answering Service:

Hello! You have reached the automated answering service of your school. In order to assist you in connecting to the right staff member, please listen to all options before making a selection:

To lie about why your child is absent, press 1

To make excuses for why your child did not do his work, press 2

To complain about what we do, press 3

To swear at staff members, press 4

To ask why you didn't get needed information that was already enclosed in your newsletter and several bulletins mailed to you, press 5

If you want us to raise your child, press 6

If you want to reach out and touch, slap or hit someone, press 7

To request another teacher for the third time this year, press 8

To complain about bus transportation, press 9

To complain about school lunches, press 0

If you realize this is the real world and your child must be accountable/responsible for his/her own behavior, classwork, homework, and that it's not the teachers fault for your child(ren)'s lacks of effort, HANG UP and HAVE A NICE DAY!!!/Submitted by: Anonymous

A few years time maybe?

foreverdelayed · 18-10-2003, 22:58

i head about this but it was only being given to the ones who skipped school constantly. This i thought was unfair, not only on the students who are going to school all the time without being bribed but also the teachers who have to put up with the ones who don't want to learn being disruptive, causing the other kids who are tyring to learn slow down whilst disruptions are delt with.

why should they be paid to go and learn stuff when it's free and on a plate, in other countries they wouldn't be so lucky

t020 · 19-10-2003, 00:23

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Originally posted by foreverdelayed

why should they be paid to go and learn stuff when it's free and on a plate, in other countries they wouldn't be so lucky

Other countries aren't complete jokes. We have been hijacked by the PC brigade. They will tell us how to think, how to bring up our children, etc etc, and as a result we have a generation of people made up mainly of young thugs that skip school and because we can't discipline them in any way, we have to BRIBE them to go to school! Its disgusting.

Spacehopper · 19-10-2003, 00:32

Nah Den Ace........

Quote:

Originally posted by t020
Other countries aren't complete jokes. We have been hijacked by the PC brigade. They will tell us how to think, how to bring up our children, etc etc, and as a result we have a generation of people made up mainly of young thugs that skip school and because we can't discipline them in any way, we have to BRIBE them to go to school! Its disgusting.

Sweeping generalistions again t020; this time its the PC brigade on the receiving end of your venomous tongue! Tut tut tut!!!

Not all Perconal Computer owners are bleeding heart, do-'good', wishy washy liberals.........

Regards,

Spacehopper.