Jim Graham   10 #13 Posted April 25, 2012 Lets face it. All three main parties are in the hands of big business. That is why the country is in the mess it is in. Will you take a chance and vote for someone different in May? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2132919/Bankers-drowning-money-Out-touch-politicians-Unaccountable-quangocrats-Not-generations-run-Britain-far-removed-common-man.html   Labour are in the hands of the unions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Graham   10 #14 Posted April 25, 2012 Its time for a period of communism. If the masses turned against the super rich minority, took all their money for the benefit of the people, made them disappear or gave them a one way ticket somewhere we could turn the country around. A handful of people would suffer for the benefit of millions- is that so bad?  Most practical examples of Communism show that millions of people end up suffering for the benefit of a few. That's pretty much how Sheffield is run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #15 Posted April 25, 2012 That's right. Everyone lives equally under communism. No; some die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
rickiethecat   10 #16 Posted April 25, 2012 Lets face it. All three main parties are in the hands of big business. That is why the country is in the mess it is in. Will you take a chance and vote for someone different in May? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2132919/Bankers-drowning-money-Out-touch-politicians-Unaccountable-quangocrats-Not-generations-run-Britain-far-removed-common-man.html  I don't vote and don't much care which party gets in locally or nationally, but is there really a credible alternative to the three main parties? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bruno   10 #17 Posted April 25, 2012 Voting for any other than the three main parties, is like inviting into your home a Jehovah's witness.  They wouldn't know what to talk about as they have never got that far Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Frank Sidney   11 #18 Posted April 25, 2012 UKIP should be given a chance and I reckon they will do well at the next general election. We need a party like them because the three main parties have made a right mess of things and have no credibility.  The events in France should be a wake up call that unless there is a change in the way the main parties operate it opens the door to extremists. We don't have a party like the National Front in Britain as in France who can muster large scale support, but we need to ensure we don't get to that stage.  UKIP are a sensible alternative to the current bunch of politicians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hots on   10 #19 Posted April 25, 2012 Its time for a period of communism. If the masses turned against the super rich minority, took all their money for the benefit of the people, made them disappear or gave them a one way ticket somewhere we could turn the country around. A handful of people would suffer for the benefit of millions- is that so bad?  Did you know that all the "ism's" in society were created and are perpetuated by the elite minority to divide us all so that the plan you've outlined there is highly unlikely to ever happen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
NorthernStar   11 #20 Posted April 25, 2012 My last general election vote went to the libs, mainly as an alternative to the other two after they had proved that they simply cannot be trusted.  I'd like to see party politics abolished altogether, it simply doesn't work.  Political parties are vulnerable to corruption and fail to represent their electorates wishes, members of parliament should represent the people who put them where they are and the only alliance they should be forming is the government - no one else should be telling them what to think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Graham   10 #21 Posted April 25, 2012 Lets face it. All three main parties are in the hands of big business. That is why the country is in the mess it is in. Will you take a chance and vote for someone different in May? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2132919/Bankers-drowning-money-Out-touch-politicians-Unaccountable-quangocrats-Not-generations-run-Britain-far-removed-common-man.html   The clever thing to do with local elections is try and match the council to the government. That's because Governments always look after their own with resources.  The very nice but very dim people of Sheffield have a suicidal view of local politics to make sure they get the least of everything. When the Tories were in before they all voted Labour. When Labour were in we had a Lib Dem council. Now that the Lib Dems have power Sheffield puts in a Labour council. Frankly, you deserve all you get.............................nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #22 Posted April 25, 2012 My last general election vote went to the libs, mainly as an alternative to the other two after they had proved that they simply cannot be trusted. I'd like to see party politics abolished altogether, it simply doesn't work.  Political parties are vulnerable to corruption and fail to represent their electorates wishes, members of parliament should represent the people who put them where they are and the only alliance they should be forming is the government - no one else should be telling them what to think.  This is a well written post and I'm loath to take it apart but.....  It's all wrong. Parties, love them or hate them, have certain albeit unclear cheques and balances. One man doesnt. I could go into his surgery and say "here's a big bag of money - vote this way". He might he might not. He will, for good or for bad, follow a 3 line whip.  The alliance thing is good in practice but are you really going to see Dennis skinner agree with Cameron over much ? Take politics away you have a gruff ex-miner and a former public schoolboy. No common ground. If you reduced to about 100 mps you might get q chance but then a bought mp would carry more weight. fewer mps might be a good idea though.  I can't see much of an improvement in what we've got already sadly. You could have a nuclear war and the same sort of self serving, loud ego maniacs would emerge out of the rubble and start again. In years gone by governments would go to war or oppress the masses. No longer an option in the west we can see it all for what it is. A big mess nobody in Europe knows how to fix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
southcoast   10 #23 Posted April 25, 2012 Maybe its time to change the voting system,after all more and more are not voting and politicians are held in contempt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
esme   10 #24 Posted April 26, 2012 Maybe its time to change the voting system,after all more and more are not voting and politicians are held in contempt.Ah but I believe the politicians see this as voter apathy, the electorate can't be bothered to tell them otherwise so the politicians can do as they like. Politicians apparently don't see this not voting thing as any kind of protest or a reaction to the perceived lack of any alternative.  After all if you don't want to vote for any of the available candidates you can always stand for office yourself, providing you can stump up the deposit, which you will probably lose if you can't find the time to campaign or drum up the necessary support.  So if you are working full time just to put a roof over your head and food on the table then this option is pretty much closed to you.  It would appear the thinking is that as this alternative exists, then if you don't vote, it must be apathy that prevents you and you will acquiesce meekly to whoever those who do vote put in power.  Despite it being such a monumental effort to engage with this alternative that for all practical purposes it is not viable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...