Frank Sidney

I'm surprised Marks and Sparks are involved in such a shady enterprise, but then again I'm not...They'd roll their granny down the tip for two bob....

There might be somebody else who they want, somebody better or the next door neighbours daughter or whoever.....Its the threat of being able to be got rid off easily that will ensure everybody puts up with a little more dodgy dealings from dodgy employers. It may ba a surprise to you, but they do exist..

I think they're being taken advantage of, as are the young people that work there...

I don't know. Hopefully someone on here will know and save me the trouble of wading through employment law, of which, I know nothing about....

Well of course it does that wasn't my point at all. Those who do pull their weight will be worse off because they'll be easier to get rid of. Then there's the point that who actually says someone is pulling their weight? People who are pulling their weight will be got rid of, for whatever reason, using this as an excuse... You're not thinking it through....

I've just discovered how this company operates, which is, frankly, a little bit iffy... One thing is that the night staff can be told at any time their shift is over. They do not have set hours. So at 2.30am the order can be given that the shift is over, so the pay stops....This ensures that the company do not have to pay the hourly rate for the rest of the shift which should end at 6.30am. That's bad enough but the location of the bakery make it difficult for any of the staff to hike it home, the person I was talking to said it would take her 3 hours. She can't afford a taxi and the first bus is not while 6.30am. So basically there's a dozen or so, mainly young boys and girls and immigrant workers hanging about for hours before they can get home... I thought slavery was illegal. I understand they supply M & S with food, I won't be buying anything from M & S food dept again...

I don't know why any employee would support a scheme like this. All it will ensure, for them, is that, because of fear of unemployment, they will have to put up with lower pay and a reduction in conditions... The same thing can be said for all those supporting the benefit cuts, it'll just ensure you have to work harder, for less or starve....

Nope wrong wording, it was out of context..I've withdrawn the misquoting accussation...It does happen quite frequently and I was confused for a minute... Please don't say report it to the help desk...because its a waste of time...

Nope wrong again, its throws...

Perhaps quoting out of context would have been a more accurate description. Therefore, I withdraw the misquoting point but replace it with an out of context one... I don't know why it is such a big issue that I have a different point of view. Plenty of people do.....Its no big deal, its called a debate. I think I'm right and you think you are, nothing is black and white.. I know what I think and have heard nothing that changes my point of view as yet, if I do, I will alter my opinion.

I feel the death throws of my forum life....

If it was born a chicken then yes, it would be a chicken leading its life as a duck. If you ate it what would it taste of?....

To say to a disabled person that he or she is disabled at birth would not be offensive, if they were born disabled, so you have no need to be offended...because it would be a fact.. I clearly said that a woman born with abnormalities to her reproductive organs is excluded from my point that women have to have the ability to give birth.....

Re Esme....As per my previous posts, I disagree and am quite entitled to my opinion...You've also misquoted me a couple of times re disabled and the ability to have children, which is a bit naughty..

Okay sorry I must have misunderstood....I thought you were agreeing with this....