View Full Version : For those who care not for the PC brigade...


genesiscouch
21-04-2004, 00:01
An excellent article here: Right here (http://www.nationalinterest.org/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=B2F215684DA24BFAADA5C22454C3F776&nm=Publications&type=pub&mod=Publications::Articles&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&tier=3&aid=829C11F21B334525AC094D9C2E2DC6B8&dtxt=Winter+2003/04)

I thought it was quite well-written if not a bit sensational. I don't agree with his conclusion but it's still good reading.

Had to wince at this though...

As these examples suggest, contemporary political correctness, though it may have originated and matured in the academy, is not only an academic product. It thrives in the academy, true, as bacteria thrives in rotting flesh.

:D

Sidla
21-04-2004, 00:44
This is one of the worst written articles I have ever seen. And don't forget - I am a Sun reader.

Tony
21-04-2004, 07:55
What a horrible extreme right wing viewpoint... all dressed up not to offend too much. A bit like the BNP hehe!

Political correctness has become the common pejorative term for that rather old fashioned thing...respect

DaBouncer
21-04-2004, 08:18
It's not just about respect tho is it Tony.
I think being over PC breeds ill feeling towards different sections of society.

For example, there was a private school that wasn't allowed to display Union Jacks over the tables in classes when it was either the Twin Towers or Princess Diana died (cant remember which) as a mark of respect and remembrance.
They said it would upset those from other countries or heritages (i.e. from Islamic countries).

This to me is not a very good example of being PC. It causes ill feeling towards those it sought not to cause offence to. They people concerned probably didn’t even care that the flags were there as a mark of respect and remembrance.

It comes across like ‘natives’ (for want of a better word) to the UK were second class citizens and not as held in high a regard as those who this flag banning applied to.

Do you see where I’m coming from?

Foxxx
21-04-2004, 08:24
I agree with you DB, being over PC can be detrimental and actually contribute to racism. That is a good example you chose there.
Mind you be careful what you say, last time I stated being over PC was a bad thing, I was accused of being deliberately hurtful, obnoxious and uncaring towards people! Which is sooooo not true.

I agree that in some circumstances making a term PC in order to not offend someone is a good thing, but as always these things get taken too far.

mojoworking
21-04-2004, 08:31
Originally posted by Foxxx
I agree with you DB, being over PC can be detrimental and actually contribute to racism. That is a good example you chose there.
Mind you be careful what you say, last time I stated being over PC was a bad thing, I was accused of being deliberately hurtful, obnoxious and uncaring towards people! Which is sooooo not true.

I agree that in some circumstances making a term PC in order to not offend someone is a good thing, but as always these things get taken too far.

It's a great day Foxxx. We finally agree on something! :)

evildrneil
21-04-2004, 08:47
PC-ness is possibly one of the most dangerous things floating around at the moment! It seems to want to coverr up an differences between people linguistically and ignore the fact that the differences are there! Differences are good - it our variations from the grey standards that make us interesting!

BTW - not actually read the article this is just my own deep held opinion!!

Andy78
21-04-2004, 08:59
Summed up very well foxxx.

genesiscouch
21-04-2004, 10:23
Originally posted by Sidla
This is one of the worst written articles I have ever seen. And don't forget - I am a Sun reader.

You are joking right Sidla?

Like I said in my first post I don't agree with his conclusion or how he gets there, but I thought the article nicely summed up the anti-PC arguments I see on this forum all the time.

Sidla
21-04-2004, 11:28
I don't agree. Admittedly, I only skim-read it, but it's all dressed up to be something it's not. I got the impression that the author had barely any intelligence at all, just skill with the written word.

I agree with Tony's post above.

genesiscouch
21-04-2004, 12:48
...skill with the written word.

Exactly. The day I can read polemical articles of this calibre in the Sun is the day I stop stocking it next to the toilet.

Tony
21-04-2004, 13:30
DB, I agree with you, but you missed my point about respect. Respect is a two way thing, not just something that you have to have for other (non British) cultures... they should have the same respect for ours. Maybe a better way of describing it would be mutual toleration and respect

Sidla
21-04-2004, 15:59
Originally posted by genesiscouch
Exactly. The day I can read polemical articles of this calibre in the Sun is the day I stop stocking it next to the toilet. Most people know the Sun's a load of tosh though. As I said, this article is dressed up to be something it's not.

Killian
21-04-2004, 19:55
Originally posted by Sidla

I agree with Tony's post above.

what a surprise.

Sidla
21-04-2004, 20:24
Not really, I've disagreed with Tony many times in the past.

Killian
21-04-2004, 20:28
Originally posted by Sidla
Not really, I've disagreed with Tony many times in the past.

okay, sorry, went a tiny bit hormonal for a second!