What is going on with traffic flow in and out of the city centre? My experiences are based on getting around in the south west but am certain that things are no better elsewhere.

As travel into the city centre from the south west is based on utilising Fulwood Rd, Ecclesall Rd, Chesterfield Rd and Abbeydale Road along with the selected use of secondary roads why is the council gridlocking the main roads by closing the 'rat runs'?Some drivers prefer to stay on the main roads whilst others use their knowledge of the city to cut their journey short. By forcing everyone to use the main roads a complete grid lock is inevitable.

Getting out of the centre during the rush hour is a complete nightmare with drivers being directed away from their intended routes thus putting miles on their journeys and adding to greenhouse gasses.

Is this just another example of the council declaring war on the car?

Because the council wants no cars in the city centre and for us to all use the monopolised overpriced inconvenient public 'transport'.

Because the council wants no cars in the city centre and for us to all use the monopolised overpriced inconvenient public 'transport'.

Would you pay £1.80p to travel by bus:rant:

I think the increase in cars on the roads is a reflection of the period of prosperity through which this city is going.

Would you pay £1.80p to travel by bus:rant:

No, they dont go to where I need to be, so its the car / bike for me

I think the increase in cars on the roads is a reflection of the period of prosperity through which this city is going.

Or possibly a reflection on the appalling state and high cost of public transport.... and the fact that it never goes WHERE you want, WHEN you want...



"A do-gooder is someone who thinks they know what is best for other people, regardless of what the other people's opinion is. Such men are dangerous"

Or possibly a reflection on the appalling state and high cost of public transport.... and the fact that it never goes WHERE you want, WHEN you want...



"A do-gooder is someone who thinks they know what is best for other people, regardless of what the other people's opinion is. Such men are dangerous"
Couldn't agree more, in sheffield a car is a neccecity(?) not a luxury if you dont live on the 53 bus or tram route or need to get to work any where around the city

Assuming increased economic activity in the area accounts for some of the increase in road traffic it will in the long run be self-defeating. Every new business or existing business expansion just contributes to the conjestion.

The council should realise that MDs and senior managers don't want to spend a couple of hours a day sat in a traffic jam commuting the few miles from the leafy western suburbs to the industrial north and east of the city, even if they expect their employees to live with it.

Because the council wants no cars in the city centre and for us to all use the monopolised overpriced inconvenient public 'transport'.
They also want to P off the "rich" drivers so that only poor people are left in the city. And who do poor people vote for?

They also want to P off the "rich" drivers so that only poor people are left in the city. And who do poor people vote for?

I take it your forum name is meant to be ironic? I was speaking to people in a less affluent area of Sheffield yeaterday and their complaint was that the 'richer' citizens of Sheffield who work at the DVLA and Norwich Union were using their roads to park in. Hardly upsetting for the 'richer' folk of the South West is it?

Originally posted by Crookesey

Is this just another example of the council declaring war on the car?

Of course it is. They want to force all cars on to the main roads until they're gridlocked and then people will have no choice. In the meantime, local and central Sheffield businesses suffer and pollution never gets chance to clear because cars are stood for ages, not moving, revving engines, etc. Obviously, they don't have to use peak times on these roads in their 'flexible' roles, or is it that they get free or reduced tariff on public transport? You've only got to look at the tram system to see where the council's priorities are. If there's a tram a mile away, all the lights go red and you have to wait for 10 minutes at the lights 'til it's gone.

dont forget the congestion and increased traffic is having serious consequences for air quality in the city - leading to poorer health.

They want to force all cars on to the main roads

Tell that to people around H'boro who have the exact opposite complaint that they want to force traffic off the main roads and onto the side roads.

Which is it? :loopy:

I dont usually rate local newspapers, but Sheff City Council and First seriously need to realise that a lot of what The Star is printing about Gridlock City is serious stuff. Rather that issuing statements that blame First or SCC, why not try what working WITH the paper and, god forbid, THE PUBLIC to find a solution.

My local paper back home has formed a partnership with the council in a bid to clear the streets of graffiti and flytipping - the paper praises them for responding quickly and shames them if they dont (up to now, I dont think they've failed).

The Star get enough people writing into them about congestion, bus lanes and so on, so why don't they form a partnership with the council and First - and work towards SOLVING the problems instead of playing the blame game.

I dont usually rate local newspapers, but Sheff City Council and First seriously need to realise that a lot of what The Star is printing about Gridlock City is serious stuff. Rather that issuing statements that blame First or SCC, why not try what working WITH the paper and, god forbid, THE PUBLIC to find a solution.

My local paper back home has formed a partnership with the council in a bid to clear the streets of graffiti and flytipping - the paper praises them for responding quickly and shames them if they dont (up to now, I dont think they've failed).

The Star get enough people writing into them about congestion, bus lanes and so on, so why don't they form a partnership with the council and First - and work towards SOLVING the problems instead of playing the blame game.

Thats the thing, SCC have never been known to a, admit they've "got things wrong" b, work with anyone else because "they are always right"

Thats the thing, SCC have never been known to a, admit they've "got things wrong" b, work with anyone else because "they are always right"

Well there's one way to change that, and again I use my hometown as an example - Change the Chief Exec and the Council Leader.

I'd like to know whose bright idea it was to make the road from Chesterfield Road and Little London Road one way - what on earth is that all about ??

I'd like to know why the council have blocked the new road from Coisely Hill to the Parkway today for 12 weeks, what road works are going to take so long (or is it the incompetence of the contractors they will have appointed?)...and caused all the gridlock from Mosborough to Aston to Manor Top to Gleadless into town until 10.30am this morning?

Which bright spark decided to do this now and not wait for the summer holidays when traffic would be less?

I could strangle our councillors and our government. When will any of them get into the real world?

ive just found out our local council tax goes towards parking space at damons restaurant on the drakehouse-but crystal peaks staff park outside my house.as for the roads - what does the council spend their money on!!poor council poor roads .....poor us!!!

ive just found out our local council tax goes towards parking space at damons restaurant on the drakehouse-but crystal peaks staff park outside my house.as for the roads - what does the council spend their money on!!poor council poor roads .....poor us!!!

Yes - I heard that too - the staff at Crystal peaks and Sainsbury's can't take their cars to work - even those who are finishing at 11pm at night.

I know it's horrible - but that will change when a serious accident happens and both Crystal Peaks and the Companies therein will change their policies and will start to consider the safety of their staff.

Ridiculous.

What is going on with traffic flow in and out of the city centre? My experiences are based on getting around in the south west but am certain that things are no better elsewhere.



No problems for me from this end of town since the big snarl up last November. Leave home at 8:40, drop my youngest at school in Crookes, eldest at King Teds (Glossop Road) and am in work in city centre for 9.

Usually leave work between 5:30 & 5:45 - maximum 20 minute journey home, usually less than 10 mins if I leave at the later time.

Well there's one way to change that, and again I use my hometown as an example - Change the Chief Exec and the Council Leader.

labour could put a donkey up for a seat in sheffield & it would still get voted on, the fact is a lot of the voting public vote labour "because my family have always voted for them"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:loopy: :loopy: :loopy:
When will they learn???

I take it your forum name is meant to be ironic? I was speaking to people in a less affluent area of Sheffield yeaterday and their complaint was that the 'richer' citizens of Sheffield who work at the DVLA and Norwich Union were using their roads to park in. Hardly upsetting for the 'richer' folk of the South West is it?

Along with students and other folk who work in the area. Please send proof that every employee that works for NU and DVLA are 'richer folk'.

You've only got to look at the tram system to see where the council's priorities are. If there's a tram a mile away, all the lights go red and you have to wait for 10 minutes at the lights 'til it's gone.
A mile? 10 minutes? Bit of an exaggeration. And what's wrong with half a dozen cars having to wait a few seconds while a tram with many, many more occupants has priority? Isn't that just common sense?
The tram isn't wholly to blame for the traffic in the city. Most of it's down to increasing numbers of unnecessary car journeys.

A mile? 10 minutes? Bit of an exaggeration. And what's wrong with half a dozen cars having to wait a few seconds while a tram with many, many more occupants has priority? Isn't that just common sense?
The tram isn't wholly to blame for the traffic in the city. Most of it's down to increasing numbers of unnecessary car journeys.

If the transport system was integrated / reliable / affordable, a lot of people could cut down on there car use, but as it is at the moment, a lot of these journeys are necessary unfortunatly

I was speaking to people in a less affluent area of Sheffield yeaterday and their complaint was that the 'richer' citizens of Sheffield who work at the DVLA and Norwich Union were using their roads to park in. Hardly upsetting for the 'richer' folk of the South West is it?
They can't be that poor if they own the road outside their houses.

They can't be that poor if they own the road outside their houses.

Top post, why didn't I think of that?

I'd like to know why the council have blocked the new road from Coisely Hill to the Parkway today for 12 weeks, what road works are going to take so long

This (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=96309) might help explain things

The problem is the bus is too expensive. £1.30 from my house down ecclesall road to the city, its a 20 minute walk otherwise. Now i'd walk regardless because thats what i do, but people who don't like walking will not search for £1.30 to waste on the bus.

Of course inept, inconsiderate drivers must share the blame as well.