maggidee
08-05-2012, 12:55
its only about 3 weeks ago that all the pot holes were filled in, and today the road is closed and they are resurfacing the whole of normanton hill what a waste of time and money.
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View Full Version : I dont believe it normanton hill maggidee 08-05-2012, 12:55 its only about 3 weeks ago that all the pot holes were filled in, and today the road is closed and they are resurfacing the whole of normanton hill what a waste of time and money. bus man 08-05-2012, 13:09 its only about 3 weeks ago that all the pot holes were filled in, and today the road is closed and they are resurfacing the whole of normanton hill what a waste of time and money. They cant win can they if they had left the pot holes saying "its going to be done in 3 weeks" and some one had an accident due to them they would sue the council . So if they filled them in they then get told off for wasting money :loopy::loopy: V.Rossi 08-05-2012, 13:11 They cant win can they if they had left the pot holes saying "its going to be done in 3 weeks" and some one had an accident due to them they would sue the council . So if they filled them in they then get told off for wasting money :loopy::loopy: So why couldn't they just resurface the road properly 3 weeks ago? truman 08-05-2012, 13:13 So why couldn't they just resurface the road properly 3 weeks ago? 'cos the resurfacing gang was working elsewhere? V.Rossi 08-05-2012, 13:14 'cos the resurfacing gang was working elsewhere? So who were the gang that filled the holes in? The hole filler gang? truman 08-05-2012, 13:28 So who were the gang that filled the holes in? The hole filler gang? Probably .... :) I don't know for definate but I suspect you need different kit to resurface a road as opposed to just filling holes in and patting them down.. JFKvsNixon 08-05-2012, 13:30 its only about 3 weeks ago that all the pot holes were filled in, and today the road is closed and they are resurfacing the whole of normanton hill what a waste of time and money. Maybe when the holes were being filled in it became apparent that the road would need resurfacing? gunner1980 08-05-2012, 14:12 The waste of money is resurfacing the road and putting traffic calming measures in. They may as well just leave it in its current state as that does a perfect job of calming the traffic! maggidee 08-05-2012, 15:55 well said gunner didnot know about them doing calming measures, 2 speed cameras would have done that gnvqsos 08-05-2012, 16:03 its only about 3 weeks ago that all the pot holes were filled in, and today the road is closed and they are resurfacing the whole of normanton hill what a waste of time and money. The filling pot holes levels the road which can then be resurfaced-because there is now a uniform surface.I think you have very little idea of road engineering and owe the authorities an apology. dazzle66 08-05-2012, 18:21 So why couldn't they just resurface the road properly 3 weeks ago? The guys that do the potholes are working for streetforce and are working from instructions from the highways department to do the potholes as a makesafe repair either from a safety inspection or a complaint from the public until the sub-contractors get round to the resurfacing programme of this particular road.This road has been in the programme of resurfacing work for a least 2yrs but because of budget cuts and safety scheme implications all the council has been able to do is keep it safe.Im sure once all the pfi work starts the sheffield public will be complaining about our roads actually getting repaired!!!!! jackeith 08-05-2012, 20:04 does anyone know when all the road repairs are supposed to start dazzle66 08-05-2012, 22:04 The works are due to start end of August begining of September and the main core of the work is due to last for 5 yrs with a further 20 yrs of maintenance to the end of the contract. V.Rossi 08-05-2012, 22:15 The works are due to start end of August begining of September and the main core of the work is due to last for 5 yrs with a further 20 yrs of maintenance to the end of the contract. Dazzle, seeing that you appear to be quite well informed (Where did Planner1 go?? :huh::hihi:) What are they doing exactly, do you know? Are they fully resurfacing just about every road in Sheffield, just that I imagine over such a short period, this will cause some major traffic chaos. The forum will be full of moaning gits, tahititwo 08-05-2012, 22:31 The work on Normanton hill started today and is expected to last approx. 10 weeks depending on the weather. The works are in preparation for the traffic calming measures that are being put into place along with parking restrictions along the road to the coisley hill island. speed cushions/bumps ( whatever they want to call them are also being installed. A crossing will also be installed between the island and the junction with Dyke Vale Rd. gunner1980 09-05-2012, 07:59 The filling pot holes levels the road which can then be resurfaced-because there is now a uniform surface.I think you have very little idea of road engineering and owe the authorities an apology. I could understand that if they just put a new layer of tarmac down on top of what was already there but they've skimmed the top layer off so there's currently raised ironworks. The bit that they have actually resurfaced from Linley Lane upwards though is lovely and smooth :D V.Rossi 09-05-2012, 08:32 I could understand that if they just put a new layer of tarmac down on top of what was already there but they've skimmed the top layer off so there's currently raised ironworks. The bit that they have actually resurfaced from Linley Lane upwards though is lovely and smooth :D Are you just being silly or are you serious? Of course they can't just re-lay new on old, if you were to spray your car, would you just go right ahead with a spray can and spray on top of your existing paint? Besides, the raised ironworks that are there, well if they weren't raised before resurfacing, then afterwards there would either be a great big hole in the road or the covers would be buried? gunner1980 09-05-2012, 08:53 Are you just being silly or are you serious? Of course they can't just re-lay new on old, if you were to spray your car, would you just go right ahead with a spray can and spray on top of your existing paint? Besides, the raised ironworks that are there, well if they weren't raised before resurfacing, then afterwards there would either be a great big hole in the road or the covers would be buried? If you see the quote from gnvqsos, they stated that the potholes are filled in to level the surface before resurfacing. That was a response to someone saying the pot holes were filled in 3 weeks and what a waste of money it was. Therefore gnvqsos was trying to justify it wasnt a waste of money when it clearly was seen as they skim the top layer off. So my post was merely a response not a silly one. I am intelligent enough to know they dont just lay one layer of tarmac down on top of another. V.Rossi 09-05-2012, 09:28 If you see the quote from gnvqsos, they stated that the potholes are filled in to level the surface before resurfacing. That was a response to someone saying the pot holes were filled in 3 weeks and what a waste of money it was. Therefore gnvqsos was trying to justify it wasnt a waste of money when it clearly was seen as they skim the top layer off. So my post was merely a response not a silly one. I am intelligent enough to know they dont just lay one layer of tarmac down on top of another. Ah, I see now. I must have had my morning head on (My apologies :blush:) kidneystone 09-05-2012, 10:04 Are you just being silly or are you serious? Of course they can't just re-lay new on old, if you were to spray your car, would you just go right ahead with a spray can and spray on top of your existing paint? Besides, the raised ironworks that are there, well if they weren't raised before resurfacing, then afterwards there would either be a great big hole in the road or the covers would be buried? They did on my road (Griffiths Road). They just laid the new on top of the old surface after the road sweeper had cleaned it. They then came later to raise any iron work that was too low V.Rossi 09-05-2012, 10:07 They did on my road (Griffiths Road). They just laid the new on top of the old surface after the road sweeper had cleaned it Are you sure they didn't skim off the surface, by what I said above, I know they don't rip up the entire road so it's down to the earth surface but they should at the very least skim the top off and leave a rough surface. It is Sheffield CC though so I wouldn't be massively suprised if they didn't. kidneystone 09-05-2012, 10:08 Are you sure they didn't skim off the surface, by what I said above, I know they don't rip up the entire road so it's down to the earth surface but they should at the very least skim the top off and leave a rough surface. It is Sheffield CC though so I wouldn't be massively suprised if they didn't. They did nothing to the surface except sweep it clean V.Rossi 09-05-2012, 10:10 They did nothing to the surface except sweep it clean Must be excellent driving down there then, does your car move a little further from your house every morning? :hihi: kidneystone 09-05-2012, 10:16 Must be excellent driving down there then, does your car move a little further from your house every morning? :hihi: I don't own a car but to be serious they did a fine job. It is without any pot holes now and is very smooth. When they did it they put two layers on a few hours apart jubby 09-05-2012, 17:39 Does anyone know of any details about this (Normington Hill) and also nearby Stradbroke Road. Work was meant to start on same day (Tuesday) but nothing on the SCC website. Emailed them and all I got was a link to the page about roadworks but their is no mention there. On both signs it doesn't state anything about road closures but the OP says the road has been shut. The sign just says delays, I thought this would be due to one side of the road being worked on and therefore traffic light or stop/go boards being used. Anyone got details of the schedule of planned closures. kidneystone 09-05-2012, 17:51 Does anyone know of any details about this (Normington Hill) and also nearby Stradbroke Road. Work was meant to start on same day (Tuesday) but nothing on the SCC website. Emailed them and all I got was a link to the page about roadworks but their is no mention there. On both signs it doesn't state anything about road closures but the OP says the road has been shut. The sign just says delays, I thought this would be due to one side of the road being worked on and therefore traffic light or stop/go boards being used. Anyone got details of the schedule of planned closures. When they did our road they closed it off and put up signs saying any parked cars would be towed jubby 09-05-2012, 20:00 There's nothing on either sign - normington hill or stradbroke road saying roads will be closed. Can't get any info from SCC as they just point me to the website that doesn't have any of these works listed. All it mentions is delays not diversions. Strix 09-05-2012, 20:37 well it was CLOSED yesterday when our bus was diverted round the block... and couldn't negotiated the right hand turn on the way back out of town :rolleyes: jubby 09-05-2012, 21:29 well it was CLOSED yesterday when our bus was diverted round the block... and couldn't negotiated the right hand turn on the way back out of town :rolleyes: I'm not saying it wasn't closed just saying closures aren't on the signs. How did you did out it was closed other than when the bus was diverted. What diversion route did you have to take? As I can't see where you mean when you say round the block. From top of normington hill it would have to go via stradbroke road to get to Woodhouse and miss out normington hill, coisley hill, Sheffield road. jubby 09-05-2012, 21:32 Council website says updated weekly but was last updated 19th April. POINTLESS dazzle66 09-05-2012, 22:49 Dazzle, seeing that you appear to be quite well informed (Where did Planner1 go?? :huh::hihi:) What are they doing exactly, do you know? Are they fully resurfacing just about every road in Sheffield, just that I imagine over such a short period, this will cause some major traffic chaos. The forum will be full of moaning gits, Hi,Amey the contractor who is going to carry out the road repairs to sheffield roads has stated that roughly 78% of roads and footpaths in sheffield will be repaired to a satisfactory standard for the first 5 yrs of this contract which will obviously cause major traffic congestion when it all kicks in.Nearly half of the trees will be taken out and new more appropriate trees planted as a lot of them are too big for the areas they are in at the moment.New street lights with white led latest technology lighting that dim themselves.Me personally cant wait for our new roads. dazzle66 09-05-2012, 22:57 [QUOTE=V.Rossi;8851027]Are you sure they didn't skim off the surface, by what I said above, I know they don't rip up the entire road so it's down to the earth surface but they should at the very least skim the top off and leave a rough surface. It is Sheffield CC though so I wouldn't be massively suprised if they didn't [/QUOTE Theres no need to skim off every surface to resurface the road as long as the base is solid underneath and theres plenty of depth for the new layer of tarmac.I remember the parkway getting resurfaced into town stretch and they just overlaid the existing and raised the gullies and manholes and thats lasted. gunner1980 10-05-2012, 07:30 Does anyone know of any details about this (Normington Hill) and also nearby Stradbroke Road. Work was meant to start on same day (Tuesday) but nothing on the SCC website. Emailed them and all I got was a link to the page about roadworks but their is no mention there. On both signs it doesn't state anything about road closures but the OP says the road has been shut. The sign just says delays, I thought this would be due to one side of the road being worked on and therefore traffic light or stop/go boards being used. Anyone got details of the schedule of planned closures. They closed the stretch between Linley Lane & Hollybank Road during the day but it was open during the rush hours, not sure the exact times theyve been closing it but it's been open when i've been coming to/from work and thats around 8am & 5pm. However that stretch is now done so I assume the next stretch is between Dyke Vale Road & Linley Lane. I can only guess the diversion will be Dyke Vale Road, Silkstone Road, Birley Moor Road then either back down Linley Lane or Hollybank. jubby 10-05-2012, 08:24 They closed the stretch between Linley Lane & Hollybank Road during the day but it was open during the rush hours, not sure the exact times theyve been closing it but it's been open when i've been coming to/from work and thats around 8am & 5pm. However that stretch is now done so I assume the next stretch is between Dyke Vale Road & Linley Lane. I can only guess the diversion will be Dyke Vale Road, Silkstone Road, Birley Moor Road then either back down Linley Lane or Hollybank. Yeah looking on a map that would seem the least disruptive diversion and anyone living on Woodhouse road would have to get off at the stop just before Motormania. For the previous road closure up hollybank road and then down linley lane would have been best. Which right turn could they not make as plenty of room for a bus to turn right onto hollybank road. jubby 10-05-2012, 08:25 Be nice if there was some information from the highways section of the council though so you can try and plan routes and therefore easing congestion. Strix 10-05-2012, 10:17 I'm not saying it wasn't closed just saying closures aren't on the signs. How did you did out it was closed other than when the bus was diverted. What diversion route did you have to take? As I can't see where you mean when you say round the block. From top of normington hill it would have to go via stradbroke road to get to Woodhouse and miss out normington hill, coisley hill, Sheffield road.Well I kind of concluded that 'Road Closed' on a big red sign meant that the road was closed, which was WHY the bus was diverted It came down Sheffield Road, across Coisley Hill Roundabout, then took the first left (refusing to stop for a woman with her hand out :mad: ) gunner1980 10-05-2012, 10:34 Perhaps jubby is referring to signs that were put up before the roadworks started which state the dates etc. I know on those it just states delays possible but nothing about actually closing the road. jubby 11-05-2012, 19:33 Well I kind of concluded that 'Road Closed' on a big red sign meant that the road was closed, which was WHY the bus was diverted It came down Sheffield Road, across Coisley Hill Roundabout, then took the first left (refusing to stop for a woman with her hand out :mad: ) I'm referring to the signs that are at either side of the planned work not any sign that may be out up during work on small parts of the planned area. Also that would be going into town and not out of it so would be no right turn to make as it turns left at the top of normington hill ( on its normal route). jubby 11-05-2012, 19:35 Found out more about stradbroke road. Work will now start on 15 may (due to diversion with normington hill) There will be traffic lights outside the school with two planned closures on the two Sundays after work starts. This is via email from highways planning section of SCC Greengeek 11-05-2012, 19:53 You guys seriously have nothing to complain about. You should see my road. Granted, it's private so it's no-one's responsibility than ours to resurface but it sort of stops the postie using it as it as a race course. vanman10 11-05-2012, 23:08 the road works are all to do with the the work being done on city school,to make sure all the pupilswho have to cross the road can do so safely,this road is a rat run of speeding inconsiderate drivers evan adults struggle to cross it so well done street force for making it safer.ring andy thirlwall on 01142735261 and let him explain jubby 12-05-2012, 20:42 You guys seriously have nothing to complain about. You should see my road. Granted, it's private so it's no-one's responsibility than ours to resurface but it sort of stops the postie using it as it as a race course. I'm not complaining about the work just the lack of information about how it will affect me. Due to me living in the area - stradbroke road is at te end of my road and I can't avoid it as their is only one way on and off and normington hill is only about 1/2 mile from my house and I use the r/a at the end all the time so any work could have a knock on affect to me getting to work/home etc. Our estate only has the pot holes filled about once every 3 month. They refuse to resurface as closing of the entire estate to do the work for min two weeks would be too disruptive and also cause problems for emergency services and other services like school and hospital transports. jubby 12-05-2012, 20:44 the road works are all to do with the the work being done on city school,to make sure all the pupilswho have to cross the road can do so safely,this road is a rat run of speeding inconsiderate drivers evan adults struggle to cross it so well done street force for making it safer.ring andy thirlwall on 01142735261 and let him explain I don't use the road as a "rat run" as I live just of the road and have no other way of getting to my road except via stradbroke road. As mentioned before no problem with the works but not knowing how it will affect me is vital as I have no other alternative except using stradbroke road to get out/come home. vanman10 12-05-2012, 23:25 jubby did you not get a letter off street force telling you what was happening we did ring the number i gave outhe is the man incharge of the works hope this will help jubby 13-05-2012, 12:52 jubby did you not get a letter off street force telling you what was happening we did ring the number i gave outhe is the man incharge of the works hope this will help No letter - first found out when I saw the signs. Looked on website nothing - sent email hot reply 3 days later. Personally i feel it should be on the website the week before the signs go up as it directs you to the website. jubby 13-05-2012, 12:57 No letter - first found out when I saw the signs. Looked on website nothing - sent email hot reply 3 days later. Personally i feel it should be on the website the week before the signs go up as it directs you to the website. I feel it's the work at City School that is causing the most problems as the road is chock fill with works vans and lorries. You get blocked at any point from the old entrance to the bridge now. Let's see what knock on effect this work has on these as they won't be allowed to park when work starts tomorrow. Will they move up towards Richmond end or Woodhouse end. jubby 13-05-2012, 13:01 jubby did you not get a letter off street force telling you what was happening we did ring the number i gave outhe is the man incharge of the works hope this will help First saw the sign last Saturday so couldn't phone. Went on website on the Sunday no information there. Sent email as still couldn't phone - was passed onto correct dept on Monday. Got reply Thursday. Work is starting a week later than sign states. Cookingfat 13-05-2012, 21:36 its only about 3 weeks ago that all the pot holes were filled in, and today the road is closed and they are resurfacing the whole of normanton hill what a waste of time and money. cause they are cheap skates and use crap materials they should have done it right the first time maggidee 15-05-2012, 15:24 cant believe the new sign thats, gone up showing a car sideways saying slippery surface, where?, NOTHING WRONG WITH THE SURFACE AT ALL. PS I THINK THE WAY THEY HAVE JUST DUG IT UP END OF HAXBY STEET AND CONED IT IS VERY DANGEROUS WITH IT DOWN TO SINGLE TRAFFIC AND NO LIGHTS TO CONTROL LINLEY LANE AND CARS COMEING DOWN THE HILL SUDDENLY FINDING A FENCE OF STEEL BARRIERS, ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN Jimmy Lasers 15-05-2012, 15:31 cant believe the new sign thats, gone up showing a car sideways saying slippery surface, where?, nothing wrong with the surface at all. Ps i think the way they have just dug it up end of haxby steet and coned it is very dangerous with it down to single traffic and no lights to control linley lane and cars comeing down the hill suddenly finding a fence of steel barriers, accident waiting to happen You should probably get out more |