In my humble opinion Scolari should have the job.

All this talk that it should definately be an Englishman is bllx.

When a league team needs a new boss they don't look specifically for a manager that supports that team, they choose the best man for the job (in their opinion).

Scolari has the best qualification of any of the candidates.

HE HAS WON THE WORLD CUP.

Anyhoo what do you lot reckon?

O'Neill & Pearce as his assistant,to allow him to get to know the job & be England manager in the future.Personally I think Warnock would be a great England manager he would show Beckham who's boss.LOL

look what has heppend in the past with forein managers they have fkd us up big time so lets have an english man who has england at heart and not just gunna see it as a ob. i say errikson out and alladyce in.

look what has heppend in the past with forein managers they have fkd us up big time so lets have an english man who has england at heart and not just gunna see it as a ob. i say errikson out and alladyce in.

We've only had the one foreign coach mate :loopy:

Plus he's not done a bad job to be fair to him.

We've only had the one foreign coach mate :loopy:

Plus he's not done a bad job to be fair to him.

hes messed us up good style. he talks about the players behind there backs and he cant even speak english right. i hate the guy. :mad:

hes messed us up good style. he talks about the players behind there backs and he cant even speak english right. i hate the guy. :mad:

How has he messed us up?

We've qualified for every tournament, got to the latter stages each time and he has now assembled what most other coaches (around the world) beleive to be one of the best in the world.

Also, the bookies have us a second favourite and these guys make a very healthy living out of being right most of the time.

Whilst I always respect that every is entitled to their opion I always know that if you really beleive what you say you either know little about football or you have something against foriegners.

Don't get me wrong. Erikkson is not my favourite person in the world, far from it.

He is, however, a very good coach and has done a good job whilst in charge of England.

Much like our own Mr Warnock who I thank for turning United into contenders again but who I also know I will NEVER like because he is an ARSE.

Liking a manager is not is not important so long as the manager is doing a good job.

i agree that the stuff about the coach having to be english is c**p. I read where Jamie Redknapp had allegedly said an English coach would have a better understanding of the English media and therefore be able to handle them better. yeah, right, like that really helped hoddle, venables, robson, etc, etc, etc...

i don't know who the best man for the job is (i've voted o'neill), but nationality isn't a big factor for me, only ability. even if people think sven hasn't done a good job, for every one foreign manager who hasn't done well, how many English managers have we had who haven't done well?

O'Neill & Pearce as his assistant,to allow him to get to know the job & be England manager in the future.Personally I think Warnock would be a great England manager he would show Beckham who's boss.LOL

I very much doubt if you will get rid of him in this manner, interesting though can you just imagine?

Average age of team 37

Names 8 strikers in squad

Converts Beckham to centre back

Only names one goalkeeper in squad

Appoints specialst whinging coach

Has away dressing room bugged

Changes strip to red and white stripes

Makes Brian Dean captain

The possibilities are endless.

Up the Owls

yeah crooksey but it would be better to see Warnock going off his rocker,it would take your mind off the crap England result.LOL

In my humble opinion only two coaches are qualified for the job and they are Hiddink and Scolari.

I say this as people like Alarardyce and Curbishley have not won anything significant as managers. Yes, they have turned smaller unfashionable teams into good premier league sides but that does not qualify you as a good international coach. Both managers tactics would be found wanting at International level and teams like Brazil, Argentian and Italy would easily pick us off. Plus they have no experience of handling big name players and moulding them into a team.

Nationallity should not be the main issue, ability should!!

Got to be English.........Its England hes manager of, so got to be English with English Players only, born in England.

the need for English players in an England team is a requirement of international football. where's the requirement for an English boss? There isn't one, so he hasn't GOT to be English at all. Should be possibly (not that i agree with that), but that's a different argument.

Both managers tactics would be found wanting at International level and teams like Brazil, Argentian and Italy would easily pick us off. Plus they have no experience of handling big name players and moulding them into a team.

Nationallity should not be the main issue, ability should!!

Only time will tell if Allardyce and Curbishley have the tactical nouse (if either gets the job), but i must admit i'm inclined to think along the same lines as yourself, and ability should definitely be the main issue. if people had to choose between an English manager who they knew wasn't good enough, and a foreign coach who they knew was good enough, would they really choose the Englishman just because he's English?

Martin Oneill is surely the best person for the job, in my opinion

again though O'neil turned an unfashionable club like Leicester into a solid club (with a League Cup thrown in) and win a few trophies with Celtic in a league that is not the most difficult to win especially if you have Henrik Larsson.

Again he plays a style that would not work in International football as it has to many flaws, again for me not the man for the job!!

This thread illusrates how short we are of top class English managers. At the time of Robsons appointment our clubs were predominantly staffed with UK players and managers. Obviously the influx of foreign players has brought on the influx of foreign managers and we should not discriminate when selecting a manager as there is no rule against it.

I don't consider domestic honours to be the main criteria of the new England manager, neither do the FA looking at the long short list. As far as playing experience is concerned the lack of it hasn't hindered Venger, Sven or The Special One in their respective positions.

Me thinks that the net has not yet been cast wide enough.

Come in on this a bit late but if the new manager can't speak english then he is unlikely to last more than a few months. The press will have him for breakfast.

I think scolari only speaks very broken english

Personally I think Warnock would be a great England manager he would show Beckham who's boss.LOL

Well he will be available at the end of the season when the red and white over achievers miss out on promotion again.

Come in on this a bit late but if the new manager can't speak english then he is unlikely to last more than a few months. The press will have him for breakfast.

I think scolari only speaks very broken english

It never stopped Fergusen, Dalgleish and Strachen did it?

lol (but none of them have been england manager..)

England manager needs to be English it seems daft a foreign manager....whats the point...internationals, should be that,.....our tribe against your tribe

Bernard Matthews. At least he knows how to look after turkeys.

Failing that, someone with passion ... Stuart Pearce.

Come in on this a bit late but if the new manager can't speak english then he is unlikely to last more than a few months. The press will have him for breakfast.

I think scolari only speaks very broken english

i've already alluded to this in an earlier post, but speaking (or being) english didn't exactly help hoddle, venables, robson, etc.

England manager needs to be English it seems daft a foreign manager....whats the point...internationals, should be that,.....our tribe against your tribe

it is - on the pitch, where the game is actually played.

'our tribe' sing a national anthem in honour of a German woman, and we display flags in honour of a Turk...

The turk is a myth nobody knows who he is.....dragons and fairys and things.....and there is no german woman...only English

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/yourlondon/stgeorges/stgeorge_history.shtml

see the above link re: the Turk

Yes i was right, read it your self "it is thought" and "some experts think".....
.......Some experts think otherwise

are you one of them?

any well structured argument works on the basis of claim, then evidence. so far you're just making claims...i'm sure that you're also aware (having read several academic books and papers), that words and phrases like 'it is thought' and 'some experts think' are commonplace as the 'defintive' truth is not eaisly placed. Nevertheless a claim without evidence makes for a lightweight argument and one that i'm no longer going to waste my time with
:shakes: :wave:

and as for the queen being English - depends what you mean by 'English'. she's certainly not as English as some people would like, and neither is Phil, as both have German ancestory

Long live England and Germany then.....right ime off to buy a bmw ....shnell

Back to the next England boss.

I'd like someone with the tactical skills to get the best out of the England team - sadly I can't see any of the English managers with that sort of ability - at either top club level or international level.

Not convinced by O'Neil - Souness achieved a similar record in Scotland with Rangers - to be honest if we're stretching to British managers I'd be more inclined to go for Mark Hughes - Blackburn are doing just as well as if not better than Bolton, Man City and Charlton in the Prem, plus he did pretty well managing Wales considering the players at his disposal. To be honest Hughes comes across as a lot shrewder and cooler than any of the English managers.

As for lots of people wanting a manager with "passion" - any idiot can stand in the technical area gesticulating wildly. The most succesful England manager ever, Alf Ramsey, didn't display any passion.

Is it just me, or is Sam Allardyce becomining more of a knob every time he opens his mouth?

His constant use of the press to push his own agenda is frankly embarassing. If I was the Bolton chairman I would be telling him to keep his mouth firmly shut.
Aside from the fact he isn't tactically aware enough to be national coach, he also appears to have an inflated impression of himself.

I would love to be a fly on the wall when he finds out he hasn't got the job, the fat headed fool.

my nan would do a cracking job

and she's already got one of those coats

O Neill - looks like he may take the Newcastle job but I think he is the most talented British manager by a mile or the metric equivalent! The rest of the chasing pack lack vision and have no track record of winning things - the person who takes over will inherit one of the top five squads in the world - its a big job - we need a big manager - has anyone mentioned the current Chelsea manager?

Is it just me, or is Sam Allardyce becomining more of a knob every time he opens his mouth?


Pretty accurate analysis.

Fat Sam could easily build a team to get us knocked out early doors - they'd probably battle, have "passion" - and be tactically clueless - unless "hoof the ball up the field" counts as tactics.

According to the press this morning Scolari has entered the frame as strong candidate for the England job. McClaren is also stongly tipped and Big Sam at Bolton is being seen as a 'compromise' candidate. No mention of O'Neil

I would go with Scolari

So, this is it, judgement week.

According to the press, there are three candidates left.

McLaren - has the continuity factor, and is said to be keen to involve Peter Taylor (worked with many of the current players at U-21 level) and Stuart Pearce.

Allardyce - of all the candidates Big Sam is said to have given the best presentation to the FA board, including a DVD for each board member.

Big Phil - well, he's won the world cup. Okay, he may not have great English, but it's hardly the most difficult language to master.

Personally, I would always go for experience over potential when you are talking about such a high profile job. I would be surprised if the FA chose Scolari though.....

Scolari for me - at least he has a track record of success.

So Allardyce gave the board a DVD each - probably a freebie from the Sunday papers, often wondered what happened to them on a Monday.

Could it have been "Big Sams cup winners montage" or " How to win a world cup in less than four years", howabaout "Bolton - beautiful football the easy way".

Medals on the table - no one can touch big Phil.

Scolari for me - at least he has a track record of success.

So Allardyce gave the board a DVD each - probably a freebie from the Sunday papers, often wondered what happened to them on a Monday.

Could it have been "Big Sams cup winners montage" or " How to win a world cup in less than four years", howabaout "Bolton - beautiful football the easy way".

Medals on the table - no one can touch big Phil.

Bang on.

Did anyone watch the Semi? Did you see the blank expression on McLaren's face with about five mins to go? It reminded me of a certain S.G. Ericsson when we played Brazil....

Bang on.

Did anyone watch the Semi? Did you see the blank expression on McLaren's face with about five mins to go? It reminded me of a certain S.G. Ericsson when we played Brazil....


what ... An expression like :roll: and :o you mean.

what ... An expression like :roll: and :o you mean.

Yup.

Looking down at the ground, not even attempting to motivate his players or change anything.....

SCOLARI has to get it.

There's very few managers with "Won the World Cup" on there CV's.

For my money;

1 - Louis Philipe Scolari

2 - Fabio Capello

3 - Martin O'Neil

4 - Bobby Robson (why not?)

5 - Sam Allardyce

Though I suspect McClaren or Allardyce will get it.

Scolari would have us playing PROPER football as well.

We've got so many gifted players but they're forced to play very orthodox football.

JUST GIVE IT TO ROOOOOONEY!!!

For my money

1. O'Neill
2. Allardyce
3. Curbishly

the rest nowhere

I think it's important to have someone with an understanding of the English game and the players. Also someone who will be respected by players and their club managers. I would like the manager to be English but I would rather have O'Neill as at least he was part of the English game for decades and he'll command instant respect.

i personnally feel that the best man for the job would be martin o'neil like said by others. I mean every club he has been to no matter how crap theyy where doing he turned them around and made them a success. I also think if ferguson was to leave man u like he was meant would be just as good. one of the moast successful managers of all time.

i personnally feel that the best man for the job would be martin o'neil like said by others. I mean every club he has been to no matter how crap theyy where doing he turned them around and made them a success. I also think if ferguson was to leave man u like he was meant would be just as good. one of the moast successful managers of all time.

I agree he would be a good choice, but he seems to be out of the running, for whatever reason.

i have no one to pick.... the choices dont appeal to me.

id be tempted to pick someone who can work with teams instead of throwing money at them...because if you have a **** england team you cant buy your way out of trouble....so in that respect...harry redknapp :) woop! although it would mean he cudunt bring in any 38yr old 'used to be good in some italian league 15yrs ago' kinda players