There is a serious and dangerous, situation that appears to be local to Sheffield.
Leaflet posters are suffering serious and disfiguring injuries from innocently posting political leaflets in to households.

Dogs are biting their fingers as they post the leaflets, with reports of three leaflet posters sustaining serious injury while performing their duties.

I'm shocked and stunned that this is allowed to happen to people in todays modern society, but it begs the question are these people suitably trained and experienced in posting leaflets, are postmen and paper boys and girls subject to the same risks and put in harms way in the same conditions.

If the same injuries are sustained upon postmen and paper delivery people why isn't it a national problem that should be highlighted and the risk minimised to prevent reoccurence.

If this was a company three injuries sustained in such a short period doing the same operation would be subject to a thorough and indepth investigation by the Health and safety executive.

My heartfelt sympathy goes out to the party representatives who have suffered from this atrocious situation and would hope they are seeking recompense from there repective parties for putting them in a situation of high risk and such a hazardous environment.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/sheffield-dog-bites-horror-delivering-political-leaflets-1-4504934

Lesson 1 that every paperboy/girl knows: Do not stick anything through letterbox unless you don't want them back.

Whilst I have sympathy if you lose a finger, my immediate thought is "why did you stick your finger in there".

I knew the lib dems would get their fingers bitten :hihi::hihi::hihi:

I knew the lib dems would get their fingers bitten :hihi::hihi::hihi:

Anyone who voted for them got their fingers burned, so just deserts really

Was a risk assessment performed prior to the leaflet posting operations?

jb

At least these 'Representitives' of the people only come out of the woodwork when they want something, if they want to waste my time putting landfill through the letterbox, then they're gonna get their fingers bitten.

And it might not be the dog that does it :lol:

I have sympathy but it's not like the owners are letting the dogs out on the street. If you go on to someone's property uninvited or without warning the owner of your presence or put your fingers through their door then they can't be held responsible for what happens.

Surely this is not a serious thread?

What do people think will happen if they put there fingers through a letterbox at a house where a dog may live.

Maybe its time to stop wasting peoples time and money with all the junk mail?

"Mrs Ross, who broke a leg while canvassing for her husband 10 years ago after falling on uneven pavement, had to return to the Northern General yesterday for an operation on her finger."

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/alberteins133991.html

*chuckle*

At least the dog owners gave her finger tip back.

Anyone who voted for them got their fingers burned, so just deserts really

So an old lady deserved to lose a finger?

I have sympathy but it's not like the owners are letting the dogs out on the street. If you go on to someone's property uninvited or without warning the owner of your presence or put your fingers through their door then they can't be held responsible for what happens.

The postman is uninvited and without warning so does this apply to him too?

So an old lady deserved to lose a finger?

Deserved may not be the right word - but if you go sticking your fingers in places that might have something capable of separating you from your finger, then it's not entirely unexpected.

The postman is uninvited and without warning so does this apply to him too?

He's probably had training (or possesses common sense) to tell him not to stick his fingers through the letterbox

I deliver leaflets and you have to be very careful and be wary of dogs. Not understand all this bad feeling against the likes of me delivering leaflets. If you do not want the service or product then just put the leaflet in the bin. I've had people come after me down the street to hand it back even.

I deliver leaflets and you have to be very careful and be wary of dogs. Not understand all this bad feeling against the likes of me delivering leaflets. If you do not want the service or product then just put the leaflet in the bin. I've had people come after me down the street to hand it back even.

The amount of junk mail where I live is ridiculous and annoying I must get at least 5 lots per day and even some on Sundays, I don't suppose people are really against you personally but just somehow want to get across the fact that they are sick of all of the junk mail.

Re the fingers being bitten by dogs when posting leaflets (or what ever) it would be a good idea if signs could be made and put by the letter box telling people not to put fingers in as a dog is at the other side perhaps.

In my case I am training my Pit Bulls to bite such people when they put information relating to the LABOUR party.

Already Tyson can spot a red rosette through the window and runs to the door in anticipation of a tasty snack.

Loretta positions herself similarly when the Tories come round, but she justs licks them. She is a bit moody about UKIP however. They both ignore the Liberals.

Vote Conservative

Or Else (Loretta is watching)

The moral to this story is Dont put your fingers in other peoples letter box's.

Deserved may not be the right word - but if you go sticking your fingers in places that might have something capable of separating you from your finger, then it's not entirely unexpected.

So you agree from a health and safety point of view that anybody with a dog should have their letter box removed so as not to put anybody in danger?

The moral to this story is Dont put your fingers in other peoples letter box's.

Well yes indeed so, its well known enough that dogs can be behind the letter box, people should really be a bit more wary if they value their fingers.

So you agree from a health and safety point of view that anybody with a dog should have their letter box removed so as not to put anybody in danger?

It's hardly rocket science - anyone who has any common sense would not stick thiir fingers in somebody else's letter box but at the same time if dog owner knows their dog has a penchant for attacking things that come through door there are plenty of remedies such as the wire mail boxes that fit behind your letter box or the outside metal letterboxes

So you agree from a health and safety point of view that anybody with a dog should have their letter box removed so as not to put anybody in danger?

No - If I had a dog, i'd still want mail - why should i have to remove my letterbox? Why the need to stick your fingers through the letter box? Why is this an issue?

When I was a kid delivering newspapers and leaflets, i never once felt the need to stuff my hand through the letterbox and waggle my fingers about, and i never once encountered a dog that could bite me through the letterbox.

So you agree from a health and safety point of view that anybody with a dog should have their letter box removed so as not to put anybody in danger?

So you agree from a trolling point of view that anyone on the wind up should have their computer removed so as not to put society in any danger?:hihi:

So you agree from a health and safety point of view that anybody with a dog should have their letter box removed so as not to put anybody in danger?

Anyone with a dog that attacks things that come through the letterbox should fit a mail cage to the back of the door. Any responsible dog owner would do that, but this thread just shows the disregard people have for others just doing their job.

The laws should soon be changing though to make dog owners responsible for attacks on people entering their property for a legitimate reason. That should stop the brain donors in this thread thinking it's funny for their dogs to bite people.

Yes it's common sense to not put your fingers through a letterbox, but if you'd actually tried delivering a thin leaflet through most boxes with brushes etc in the way then you'd know how difficult it is to actually get the thing to stay in there.

I'm a Postie and dogs that jump at the letterboxes are a serious PITA. What often tends to happen though is that the dog will tear them apart whilst i'm pushing them through, which I find quite amusing as I can hear the owner screaming at the dog to get off them. :hihi:

No - If I had a dog, i'd still want mail - why should i have to remove my letterbox? Why the need to stick your fingers through the letter box? Why is this an issue?

When I was a kid delivering newspapers and leaflets, i never once felt the need to stuff my hand through the letterbox and waggle my fingers about, and i never once encountered a dog that could bite me through the letterbox.

So in other words, you want people to post things through your letter box, but if your dog injures anybody while they do that, thats nothing to do with you?

I had a post woman try to sue me for having to have stitches on her finger after she posted something through the letter box and the dog bit her.

It was the police that came round first and both officers were rather annoyed, especially as she had left it a good few weeks before reporting it. They basically said that she knew the dog was there (everyone walking past knew she was there) and shouldn't have been sticking her fingers through the letterbox.

Apparently, the only reason she had reported it was to get a crime number for the no win no fee service she was using :rolleyes:.

No - If I had a dog, i'd still want mail - why should i have to remove my letterbox? Why the need to stick your fingers through the letter box? Why is this an issue?

When I was a kid delivering newspapers and leaflets, i never once felt the need to stuff my hand through the letterbox and waggle my fingers about, and i never once encountered a dog that could bite me through the letterbox.

When you were a kid did almost all letterboxes have draught exluding brushes behind them, making it nigh on impossible to push a thin leaflet or letter right through? Or did you just leave everything sticking out?

it's not just dogs you know....


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3207208/Royal-Mail-staff-banned-from-using-house-letterbox-after-cat-claws-postman.html

Seriously though, how far through a letter box do fingers have to be to be bitten off ! I presume there was an element of barking/growling before said dog bit fingers - surely that's warning enough not to put your fingers there ?
Surely this lack of common sense is not a great trait if you going to be a councillor maybe Councillor Diana Stimely should consider her career options :)

So in other words, you want people to post things through your letter box, but if your dog injures anybody while they do that, thats nothing to do with you?

That's the attitude of the majority of dog owners unfortunately.

I have sympathy but it's not like the owners are letting the dogs out on the street. If you go on to someone's property uninvited or without warning the owner of your presence or put your fingers through their door then they can't be held responsible for what happens.Oh, yes they are.
By physically existing you give complete, total and unrevocable permission to anybody to access your property in order to make deliveries. You have an complete, total and unrevocable responsibility to make such access safe.
If you wish to trap a dog inside your house, keeping it until it is bouncing off the walls and into such a state that it's going to savage anything that comes near it, place a letterbox outside your house.

Seriously though, how far through a letter box do fingers have to be to be bitten off!Not very far, and often, not at all - a dog can jump up and grab the post quicker than you can react and let go, and actually pull your hand through. I had to have part of a finger medically superglued back together some years ago, but the more noticable scar is across my knuckles where my hand got scraped across the letterbox.

it's not just dogs you know....


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3207208/Royal-Mail-staff-banned-from-using-house-letterbox-after-cat-claws-postman.html

Seriously though, how far through a letter box do fingers have to be to be bitten off ! I presume there was an element of barking/growling before said dog bit fingers - surely that's warning enough not to put your fingers there ?
Surely this lack of common sense is not a great trait if you going to be a councillor maybe Councillor Diana Stimely should consider her career options :)

I often have the mail ripped out of my hands by dogs without hearing a sound from the other side of the door before it happens.

And it's not as simple as common sense. As i've already said it's very difficult to get a single letter or leaflet through most doors without pushing it through with something. We do have plastic pegs but they're nigh on useless and take longer - add that onto hundreds of addresses and you'd be there all day.

It's also worth remembering that it's not a case of going to one door - posties visit thousands of addresses every week and it only needs one lapse to get bitten. I never have but i've had a lot of close calls.

Or wear these

http://www.euroflex-safety.de/e_1024/produkte.html

Anyone with a dog that attacks things that come through the letterbox should fit a mail cage to the back of the door. Any responsible dog owner would do that, but this thread just shows the disregard people have for others just doing their job.

The laws should soon be changing though to make dog owners responsible for attacks on people entering their property for a legitimate reason.
Is posting unsolicited leaflets or junk a legitimate reason?

That's the attitude of the majority of dog owners unfortunately.

I doubt that it is.

So an old lady deserved to lose a finger?

Her age has what do do with it?

Or wear these

http://www.euroflex-safety.de/e_1024/produkte.html

Have you ever tried doing anything that takes manual dexterity (like handling paper) with chain mail gloves on?

Anyway, they may stop the finger actually being bitten off, but they wouldn't stop any broken bones and soft tissue injuries are sometimes made worse by the links of the chain mail being pushed into the wounds.

I often have the mail ripped out of my hands by dogs without hearing a sound from the other side of the door before it happens.

And it's not as simple as common sense. As i've already said it's very difficult to get a single letter or leaflet through most doors without pushing it through with something. We do have plastic pegs but they're nigh on useless and take longer - add that onto hundreds of addresses and you'd be there all day.

It's also worth remembering that it's not a case of going to one door - posties visit thousands of addresses every week and it only needs one lapse to get bitten. I never have but i've had a lot of close calls.

Speak to your boss's. If they arent giving you the correct saftey equipment then its them thats negligent.

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No - If I had a dog, i'd still want mail - why should i have to remove my letterbox? Why the need to stick your fingers through the letter box? Why is this an issue?

When I was a kid delivering newspapers and leaflets, i never once felt the need to stuff my hand through the letterbox and waggle my fingers about, and i never once encountered a dog that could bite me through the letterbox.

You must be under the assumption that every letterbox is the same,and the post must literally drop through the box as soon as the postie puts the mail to it.When you deliver mail to 100,000+ letterboxs per year,its very possible to switch off for 2 seconds and have your finger slightly in the letterbox.
And as for this whole story,,,Im appalled that 3 counsellors get bitten,and the Star make a story out of it,yet 5000+ posties nationwide get bitten every year without much thought about it.

Is posting unsolicited leaflets or junk a legitimate reason?

Is that activity illegal? If it isn't then yes it is a legitimate reason.

When you were a kid did almost all letterboxes have draught exluding brushes behind them, making it nigh on impossible to push a thin leaflet or letter right through? Or did you just leave everything sticking out?

Yes, quite a few did. I managed fine. 455 papers on my route and I managed to get it done without ever getting bitten. I did have some close calls, but as I never used the ham fisted "just stuff it in" approach and actually took my time to carefully post the leaflet it wasn't a problem. It took me longer on the houses like that, but I had pride in doing a good job rather than just rushing it and concentrating on where to drop my next pile of elastic bands. :hihi:

(Only kidding, I have a very good postie) I don't quite buy this myth about impenetrable letterboxes with draught excluders though. Dont you posties have the option of not delivering to houses where you feel there is a risk? I realise that might be too late by then.

When I had dogs, I had a cage, but have to admit this was to stop the dogs chewing up my stuff rather than to save the postman - very selfish, sorry. The argument about "I deliver to hundreds of houses so might have a slip or forget" - I kind of want to reply with "well, if you have a slip and forget - why is that my fault" get on to your union or boss if you feel you cant concentrate enough because of your workload - for me "must not get fingers bitten off" was quite high on my list of priorities.

I cant get past the thinking that if you don't want your fingers to be bitten off, don't stick them in places where they might get bitten off.

You must be under the assumption that every letterbox is the same,and the post must literally drop through the box as soon as the postie puts the mail to it.When you deliver mail to 100,000+ letterboxs per year,its very possible to switch off for 2 seconds and have your finger slightly in the letterbox.
And as for this whole story,,,Im appalled that 3 counsellors get bitten,and the Star make a story out of it,yet 5000+ posties nationwide get bitten every year without much thought about it.

I'm under no such assumption - if youre a lorry driver and switch off for 2 seconds and kill a bunch of people in a crash, i suppose thats not your fault either?

Seriously, three pages of posts because some people can't use a letterbox safely.

Whatever is at the other side of the letterbox, be it a dog/axe wielding maniac/bumhole - the answer is very simple.

DON'T PUT YOUR FINGERS NEAR IT!

Ive every sympathy for anyone who's bitten whilst innocently delivering letters/leaflets etc pushing them through a letter box. (It must be a nightmare for postal workers)

The last thing anyone deserves is getting bitten by an animal.

Yes, I appreciate that the dog is only protecting its domain and responsible dog owners should either use a post cage which protects the letters and the persons fingers, or a wall mounted post box.

All responsibile dog owners I know provide these, just to bury ones head in the sand and say a person should be more careful doesnt cut the mustard.

Children and elderly people dont always think 'Theres a dog behind that door'

Ive every sympathy for anyone who's bitten whilst innocently delivering letters/leaflets etc pushing them through a letter box. (It must be a nightmare for postal workers)

The last thing anyone deserves is getting bitten by an animal.

Yes, I appreciate that the dog is only protecting its domain and responsible dog owners should either use a post cage which protects the letters and the persons fingers, or a wall mounted post box.

All responsibile dog owners I know provide these, just to bury ones head in the sand and say a person should be more careful doesnt cut the mustard.

Children and elderly people dont always think 'Theres a dog behind that door'

^^^What he says.

My dog doesn't bother with the post, but she's still not allowed to stand the other side of the door getting worked up at the fact that someone she doesn't know is there. It really doesn't take much to either not allow the dog around the letterbox or provide a way of looking after fingers like a separate box or a cage.

I'm under no such assumption - if youre a lorry driver and switch off for 2 seconds and kill a bunch of people in a crash, i suppose thats not your fault either?

Hows that even remotely close to the topic?:loopy:.
So you have been a paperboy as a youngster,and feel that qualifies you as a know it all?.Huge papers can't even be compared to flimsy mail/leaflets.
And as for 455 papers,,what kind of round is that?,are we talking gazettes here?,because that would take you at least 3/4 hours,and need 10/15 bags full just to take them..
Are we speaking from exagerated experience somewhat?,or just plain lyng?.because if you do the maths,you don't add up.:suspect:

I don't know what I'd be more upset about, having my finger bitten, or being called a 'horror' in the local rag.

With any luck the dogs will be killed and the owners fined a massive amount of money.

The moral to this story is Dont put your fingers in other peoples letter box's.

Glad you added the word letter lolololol

Seriously, three pages of posts because some people can't use a letterbox safely.

Whatever is at the other side of the letterbox, be it a dog/axe wielding maniac/bumhole - the answer is very simple.

DON'T PUT YOUR FINGERS NEAR IT!

Well since you put it like that,it all makes perfect sense now,maybe people should just throw it at the letterbox and hope for the best?:suspect:.

so just deserts really
OK. Here are some: Sahara, Gobi, Arabian, Sinai, Colorado- oh, and any UK reservoir, in a year or so.

Kill the Dog, fine the owner.

OK. Here are some: Sahara, Gobi, Arabian, Sinai, Colorado- oh, and any UK reservoir, in a year or so.

Have you SERIOUSLY never heard the idiom "just deserts" before or are you going off-topic and trolling, Mr. Moderator?

Have you SERIOUSLY never heard the idiom "just deserts" before or are you going off-topic and trolling, Mr. Moderator?

I think that the idiom is 'just desserts' ;)

Deserts and desserts are different things.

I think that the idiom is 'just desserts'
Deserts and desserts are different things.
Yes, as an Afters Thought.

With any luck the dogs will be killed and the owners fined a massive amount of money.

Why exactly?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

With any luck the dogs will be killed and the owners fined a massive amount of money.

A bit early to be steaming drunk isnt it?

Why exactly?:rolleyes::rolleyes:The dogs don't deserve to be killed, but the owners certainly need to have a word with themselves.

If they know the dog is likely to sit behind the door waiting to grab anything that comes through the letter box and maybe injure someone, they should takes some steps to prevent that. Either by shutting the dog out of the hallway, training, or a cage.

You cant just blame the person at the other side of the door. What if it was a child who was being allowed to post a birthday card through or something? Have some sense of repsonsbility, dog owners.

Hows that even remotely close to the topic?:loopy:.
Let me explain for you, in simple terms. You asserted that because you, or indeed a postman or whoever may lose concentration for a few seconds and accidentally shove their hand through the letter box, it's not their fault if they get bitten. I compared that to another line of work, i.e. lorry driver, for whom the same loss of concentration may cause a crash - is that the fault of the the other car for being in they way (just like you seem to claim it's the fault of the dog / owner rather than yours for being absent minded)

So you have been a paperboy as a youngster,and feel that qualifies you as a know it all?.
No, but i feel it gives me a good grounding in letter box technology, which is what we've been talking about. I apologise if me having more common sense than you offends you
Huge papers can't even be compared to flimsy mail/leaflets. If you read it all, you notice I said I also delivered leaflets
And as for 455 papers,,what kind of round is that?,are we talking gazettes here?,because that would take you at least 3/4 hours,and need 10/15 bags full just to take them..
Are we speaking from exagerated experience somewhat?,or just plain lyng?.because if you do the maths,you don't add up.:suspect:
I assure you I do add up - you probably mean 'it' doesn't add up. You're wrong about that too though. It was the 'Glaswegian' free weekly paper, which always came with tons of flyers. It took around 6 hours (i did it over 2 days) but only took around 4 or 5 bags worth depending on leaflets. Some of the leaflets you could put inside the papers, some you could not - hence my 'expertise' (if one can have such a thing) in putting thin bits of paper through a letterbox while retaining all fingers.

Happy now, or do you want to call me more names and have a hissy fit because you don't like being wrong?

Yes, it would be nice if every dog owner took steps to avoid incidents like this - but common sense tells you that not every dog owner is nice or responsible, so dont be stupid and dont stick your fingers through letterboxes. If that is inconvenient for you and you choose not to use tools supplied or take the easy route, don't moan if you get bitten.

I deliver leaflets and you have to be very careful and be wary of dogs. Not understand all this bad feeling against the likes of me delivering leaflets. If you do not want the service or product then just put the leaflet in the bin. I've had people come after me down the street to hand it back even.

Conversly, if you don't want the (understandable, IMO) bad feeling that results from posting unwanted leaflets through people's doors, then stop posting them :)

There is a serious and dangerous, situation that appears to be local to Sheffield.
Leaflet posters are suffering serious and disfiguring injuries from innocently posting political leaflets in to households.

Dogs are biting their fingers as they post the leaflets, with reports of three leaflet posters sustaining serious injury while performing their duties.

I'm shocked and stunned that this is allowed to happen to people in todays modern society, but it begs the question are these people suitably trained and experienced in posting leaflets, are postmen and paper boys and girls subject to the same risks and put in harms way in the same conditions.

If the same injuries are sustained upon postmen and paper delivery people why isn't it a national problem that should be highlighted and the risk minimised to prevent reoccurence.

If this was a company three injuries sustained in such a short period doing the same operation would be subject to a thorough and indepth investigation by the Health and safety executive.

My heartfelt sympathy goes out to the party representatives who have suffered from this atrocious situation and would hope they are seeking recompense from there repective parties for putting them in a situation of high risk and such a hazardous environment.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/sheffield-dog-bites-horror-delivering-political-leaflets-1-4504934

could you not just do everybody a favour and NOT post leaflets in the first place? i'd really appreciate it. would make my dog's day a little less exciting though...

could you not just do everybody a favour and NOT post leaflets in the first place? i'd really appreciate it. would make my dog's day a little less exciting though...

very funny. its an election:loopy:

very funny. its an election:loopy:

i stand firmly by my original comment

i stand firmly by my original comment

of course you do, because you have fallen into the apathy plan of the political parties.

OK. Here are some: Sahara, Gobi, Arabian, Sinai, Colorado- oh, and any UK reservoir, in a year or so.
I think that the idiom is 'just desserts' ;)
Deserts and desserts are different things.... just so we all know ...
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/just_deserts ;)

*pedant mode

So, it's just me who can't make any grammatical sense of "Sheffield dog bites horror delivering political leaflets" without insulting Councillor Stimely, is it?

of course you do, because you have fallen into the apathy plan of the political parties.

tell you what, try reading some of these leaflets and then try telling me that they're not utter junk.
and seeing as they're utter junk i would rather not have them appear.

There is a serious and dangerous, situation that appears to be local to Sheffield.
Leaflet posters are suffering serious and disfiguring injuries from innocently posting political leaflets in to households.

Dogs are biting their fingers as they post the leaflets, with reports of three leaflet posters sustaining serious injury while performing their duties.

I'm shocked and stunned that this is allowed to happen to people in todays modern society, but it begs the question are these people suitably trained and experienced in posting leaflets, are postmen and paper boys and girls subject to the same risks and put in harms way in the same conditions.

If the same injuries are sustained upon postmen and paper delivery people why isn't it a national problem that should be highlighted and the risk minimised to prevent reoccurence.

If this was a company three injuries sustained in such a short period doing the same operation would be subject to a thorough and indepth investigation by the Health and safety executive.

My heartfelt sympathy goes out to the party representatives who have suffered from this atrocious situation and would hope they are seeking recompense from there repective parties for putting them in a situation of high risk and such a hazardous environment.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/sheffield-dog-bites-horror-delivering-political-leaflets-1-4504934

Not purely a problem in Sheffield; an easy solution would be for householders to fit a metal hood-shaped guard over the inside of the letterbox to prevent the dog getting within about 6 inches of it. All flats in the block I am in have these, although ironically tenants here are not allowed to keep dogs...;)

tell you what, try reading some of these leaflets and then try telling me that they're not utter junk.
and seeing as they're utter junk i would rather not have them appear.

They want us to think that. They want us poor and uneducated. Docile in a word. Get angry and vote for anyone but the big three. Only by doing this will you see change. BY not voting we give them a free pass.

If you are going to remove my response to off-topic allegations of illiteracy then please also remove the moderators' spam.

I understand that the moderators may be embarrassed when they are shown to be bickering over spelling and subsequently shown to be mistaken, however it is grossly unfair to misuse moderation powers to remove my post whereby I illustrate that I used the correct spelling, and leave the off-topic smart-alec posts that attempted to make me look foolish.

To clear things up, just deserts are when one gets what one deserves, and not what one 'desserves'

My personal view on this is that I do find the fact that it has made the paper completely hilarious, the fact it has happened to three people on the same campaign even more so.

Although the injuries and pain sustained by the victims, isn’t a laughing matter, it could certainly be a scene from a Carry On film.

Just picture the scene:
Where the nominees of all three main political parties complete with bedraggled rosettes and bitten bowler hats are all sat in wheelchairs at the A&E department with bandaged fingers and a fist full of chewed leaflets in the other hand.

Kenneth Williams as the Doctor looking down his nose while shouting Hattie Jakes “Oooooo Matrrrron” And Sid James as the Ambulance Driver pushing the Wheel Chairs with that big beaming smile.

With the next scene showing the dog (just got to be a traditional Bulldog complete with union jack waist coat) contently licking his lips with the bemused “What’s all the fuss about ” on his face being handcuffed by a policeman.

And just wouldn’t be the same without Barbara Windsor’s as the dog owner just out of bed with the lace nightie giving a huge hearty laugh at the whole situation.

All this taking place in a long lost borough of Sheffield with the backdrop of Steelworks and smoking chimneys.

If you are going to remove my response to off-topic allegations of illiteracy then please also remove the moderators' spam.

I understand that the moderators may be embarrassed when they are shown to be bickering over spelling and subsequently shown to be mistaken, however it is grossly unfair to misuse moderation powers to remove my post whereby I illustrate that I used the correct spelling, and leave the off-topic smart-alec posts that attempted to make me look foolish.

To clear things up, just deserts are when one gets what one deserves, and not what one 'desserves'

Dont let it worry you.
You cant fight the machine
Hope you enjoy your holiday.
:hihi:

If you are going to remove my response to off-topic allegations of illiteracy then please also remove the moderators' spam.

I understand that the moderators may be embarrassed when they are shown to be bickering over spelling and subsequently shown to be mistaken, however it is grossly unfair to misuse moderation powers to remove my post whereby I illustrate that I used the correct spelling, and leave the off-topic smart-alec posts that attempted to make me look foolish.

To clear things up, just deserts are when one gets what one deserves, and not what one 'desserves'

I haven't seen the removed post, Squiggs, but from where I'm sitting it seems that they've left their own errors in which seems fair, doesn't it?

... just so we all know ...
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/just_deserts ;)

*pedant mode

Mods in making theirselves look daft shocker. Well I never.

If you are going to remove my response to off-topic allegations of illiteracy then please also remove the moderators' spam.

I understand that the moderators may be embarrassed when they are shown to be bickering over spelling and subsequently shown to be mistaken, however it is grossly unfair to misuse moderation powers to remove my post whereby I illustrate that I used the correct spelling, and leave the off-topic smart-alec posts that attempted to make me look foolish.

To clear things up, just deserts are when one gets what one deserves, and not what one 'desserves'

Lol thanks for the education Squiggs, I learnt something from that. I'm now wondering about the Arabian peninsula, I've heard it's just deserts :confused: