hi all, just a quick question.

Can smoeone who has been to the shaolin class give me directions to get there and if they would be so kind as to give me some general info, like what the instructor is like, age group that train and the place where they train, is it a gym , a hall, that sort of stuff.

thanks :)

Off the top of my head it’s in a Gym in Sheffield on a Tuesday night and Saturday morning can’t remember the name. I have not met the instructor but I know who his sifu is and he is one of the top in the UK.

A point of note just because it has the word shaolin appears before kung fu, will not always mean it is from the shaolin Temple.
A lot of traditional kung fu arts have a connection some were to shaolin i.e. wing Chun, Hung Gar, White Crane, Choy lee fut, and 7 Star praying Mantis.

If you cant find the place drop me a line and ill try and help you out.

there are 2 kung fu instructors in sheffield

james lee angel , who is a bit of a fruitcake
and
pete allsopp , who again is a bit nutty but seems like a nice guy
some of the AFK guys have trained in kung fu under pete allsopp.

james lee angel has popped into AFK before and offered to "swap a form for the lesson"
Farhad was totally bewildered!

james lee angel , who is a bit of a fruitcake
and
pete allsopp , who again is a bit nutty

good ol' freddy - mr. diplomatic as usual :hihi:

I bet Farhad was totally Farhad bewildered Farhad ooooooh I love Farhad I dooooo Farhad Farhad (wot's the name of your teacher again Freddie, I've just forgotten)

Mind u, I know James, he's a good bloke but I don't think he should be teaching quite yet

Farhad Farhad, I love you!!!!!!

Off the top of my head it’s in a Gym in Sheffield on a Tuesday night and Saturday morning can’t remember the name. I have not met the instructor but I know who his sifu is and he is one of the top in the UK.

A point of note just because it has the word shaolin appears before kung fu, will not always mean it is from the shaolin Temple.
A lot of traditional kung fu arts have a connection some were to shaolin i.e. wing Chun, Hung Gar, White Crane, Choy lee fut, and 7 Star praying Mantis.

If you cant find the place drop me a line and ill try and help you out.


i know that there are other styles with a connection to shaolin, but from the books iv read, shaolin is the only style that i have found so far that can train my internal and external force with very good results. Thats why i am also interested in the 5 animal styles because each animal trains different parts of the body internally and externally.:)

dogwash or pugwash or whatever your name is
why shouldnt james be teaching eh?
becos you know better thna him?
is that it?
also you seem to have a big issue with my instructor, since you have a problem with him go and tell him to his face!

Lets all get real at the Monday night Poi Club shall we...find out if you're really cut out for kung fu.... :-)

....and separate those who know the path from those who actually walk it ;-)

....that includes instructors...

....ESPECIALLY instructors... :-)


K

Lets all get real at the Monday night Poi Club shall we...find out if you're really cut out for kung fu.... :-)

....and separate those who know the path from those who actually walk it ;-)

....that includes instructors...

....ESPECIALLY instructors... :-)


K

trust you to say something like that.

i will hopefully see you at poi club tonight?

I mean every word of it matey.... :-)

See you later...

K

Be r8
What book you got??????????

All kung fu styles should do both Internal and external even wing chun, or a hard styles like Hung Gar they focus a lot on the internal.

My advice would be to try a couple of kung fu schools as well as non Chinese arts don’t get to hung up on this style or that style they are all as good as each other. No style is better than the other it’s just down to if the instructor can teach and if you can learn what he is giving.

I know of some schools that do separate internal training for them that want it as well as in the class.

I visited someone that clamed to teach 5 animals once and it was no different from when I did my Choy lee fut training.

You can get a good DVD on Kung fu it has some of the top people in the UK on it, 2 of them teach 5 animals and both of them look totally different.

If you want ill pm you with a number.

Kato
How will going to your class help him find out if he is cut out for Kung Fu?????????

Davemantis.... you seem like you know your stuff...I only have one suggestion.... Come and have a go... it'll cost you nothing apart from time and you will leave somewhat enlightened ;)

Look forward to meeting you...

K

dogwash or pugwash or whatever your name is
why shouldnt james be teaching eh?
becos you know better thna him?
is that it?
also you seem to have a big issue with my instructor, since you have a problem with him go and tell him to his face!

lol

it's Dogwash - i can recommend a good reading teacher if you like

James shouldn't be teaching cos he's not good enough (not when i last trained with him, and we were on about the same level) - simple as - he is a really nice guy with a good heart but in my opinion he should spend another ten years or so learning before he tries to pass stuff on

there's too many people trying to teach before they properly know their system - someone who practises as many systems as James will obviously know each system a little rather than knowing one system well, which further devalues the teaching in my eyes

and i wouldn't say i know better than him, apart from knowing to leave the teaching to the more experienced practitioners

what makes you think i've got a problem with your instructor? i've never met him, so i've obviously got no reason to have a problem with the guy - i just find it pure comedy (and a bit sad too) that you feel the need to drop his name in most of your posts, like you're the one man Farhad fan club

KATO
Tell me why I would want to go ???????????
Nothing you have put on the forum about what you do makes me think yes this is what I have been missing all along.

I don't Get It ???????????
And curiosity killed the cat so I cant use that as an excuse to come and have a go.

That's why I asked the question. Although BL made it look good in demos, as far as I'm aware he never actually competed. I guess my question is, does Wing Chun work in a real fight? It looks good in demos but then so do most martial arts.
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Just because you have learnt to fight in a ring does not mean you can fight on the streets, decide what you want from martial arts. If you want to learn how to fight in a real life or death situation fast, then you learn, Wing chun, or many various forms of Gong fu...aka kung fu...or learn Muay Thai defence techniques, or Krav maga, or street self defence started my an ex Royal marine.
If you have the luxury of time, then learn Aikido or Wadu Ryu, or Ti chi chuan traditional style.
If you want to learn MMA then dont do a traditional style. I know many champion fighters who kick ass in the ring but can not fight on the street. On the street there are no rules bub ;), and no ref !!!

Why are you using my OP from another thread on this and several others? And what's a 'bub' ?

I'm getting deja vu here.

hi overseer
yes Wing Chun work in a real fight but only if trained correct, the problem is not every club trains it correct allot just do Chi sau

NEW TRADITIONAL NORTHERN MANTIS KUNG FU CLASSES IN WORKSOPhttp://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=507036&highlight=kung

What's chi sau and why isn't it correct?

sisisi
Allot of clubs only focus in the forms and chi sau (sticking hands a wing chun exercise) and think that’s all they need to do to be able to defend themselves. That would be a little like a boxer doing shadow boxing

So what don't they do? What should they do? I'm not being contentious, just curious.

Sisisi a little hard to explain via my blackberry on sheffield forum but feel free to email me. Stma.dave@yahoo.co.uk

Chi sau is sensitivity training, like pushing hands, it is not exclusive to Wing chun, most gong fu systems have a form a chi sau. Chi sau teaches sensitivity, and conditions and enhances reactions to offensive movement. It is also like rolling with the punches, Ali comes to mind, he was famous for rolling with the punches, the Russian Speks are still taught how to absorb and redirect energy. The same principle applies in all basic gong fu. Also it teaches you to stop power at the root, this is a Chinese translation, it means to stop power at the source, so the root/source of most punches is the shoulder, u trap/destroy the shoulder, u stop the power of the punch, a kicks power is easily stopped by moving in fast and stopping the hip movment etc ;).

Chi sau is sensitivity training, like pushing hands, it is not exclusive to Wing chun, most gong fu systems have a form a chi sau. Chi sau teaches sensitivity, and conditions and enhances reactions to offensive movement. It is also like rolling with the punches, Ali comes to mind, he was famous for rolling with the punches, the Russian Speks are still taught how to absorb and redirect energy. The same principle applies in all basic gong fu. Also it teaches you to stop power at the root, this is a Chinese translation, it means to stop power at the source, so the root/source of most punches is the shoulder, u trap/destroy the shoulder, u stop the power of the punch, a kicks power is easily stopped by moving in fast and stopping the hip movment etc ;).

Nice one overseer.

I went to see the new IP man movie a coulpe of weeks ago, some awsome kung fu, one of the best films ive seen for ages. :clap::clap::clap: