mimicraze
16-04-2004, 15:29
just wondering what all your views are on this sordid subject!
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View Full Version : Porn - good or bad? mimicraze 16-04-2004, 15:29 just wondering what all your views are on this sordid subject! qazitory 16-04-2004, 15:32 As long as it not hurting anyone, how can it be bad? Bedhead 16-04-2004, 15:34 would be interesting to split the poll into male/female and see what that comes up with (yes, was very tempting to include pun there!) mimicraze 16-04-2004, 15:35 haha i know. so have you voted then mate??? tell all! Chris_Sleeps 16-04-2004, 15:41 I voted "love it" but love is a strong word. I do watch it, and i've never spent any money on it, so make of that what you will. :) Chris. Bedhead 16-04-2004, 15:44 i have indeed voted! nowt wrong with it in my book :wink: well as long as it doesn't harm anyone etc but that's another debate mimicraze 16-04-2004, 15:45 dont even start on that one--save it for another thread methinks...:rolleyes: fnkysknky 16-04-2004, 16:10 Nothing wrong with it as long as it's kept in its place i.e. away from kids. I know a few people who make money from the sex industry and why not. fuzzy 16-04-2004, 16:26 Voted - but yes it would have been interesting to see how the if there was a difference in the male/female votes. fittdiva 16-04-2004, 16:46 i never used to like it, but have been converted. Not really into animal porn etc or fetish stuff, but the rest is good.better when you watch it with your partner though innit:thumbsup: FairyNormal 16-04-2004, 17:00 Nothing wrong with a bit of erotic viewing/reading. :thumbsup: Sam Miguel 16-04-2004, 21:20 Originally posted by FetishFairy Nothing wrong with a bit of erotic viewing/reading. :thumbsup: And I couldn't argue with that. Titilation is healthy stimulus. I believe we are so starchy an implosive on this subject, the rest of the Europeans must scoff at our attitude. Take Spain, a devout Catholic country, and the assistants (even female assistants) in the shops will happily talk you through, and flick through pages with you, to assist you in choosing a nice piece of literature to smuggle .(For a friend, you understand). Spain has changed so much.i We are so fuddy-duddy when it comes to the nitty gritty, but show off more flesh in the wrong places ( i.e.page three girls in newspapers when ideally it should be full of news) than any country on the planet, and possibly beyond. In Spain , the newspapers are full of news, the sports papers are full of sport and the sex magazines are full of sex. There. Cyclone 17-04-2004, 08:36 who voted hate it? and what's your rational? I guess it's going to include degrading/exploiting women? evildrneil 17-04-2004, 10:43 Originally posted by Cyclone who voted hate it? and what's your rational? I guess it's going to include degrading/exploiting women? I'm more interested to know who voted "wouldn't know" - do we really have anyone that innocent here?!?! mimicraze 17-04-2004, 16:13 i know!!!i cant believe someone voted that, thats suprising, i only put that choice on for a giggle! pacman 17-04-2004, 16:27 Let's not forget it's also given us great comedy names like 'the blown ranger' and 'g*a*s*h' :) Cyclone 17-04-2004, 20:00 Originally posted by evildrneil I'm more interested to know who voted "wouldn't know" - do we really have anyone that innocent here?!?! There are some younger teenagers on the site aren't there? fuzzy 18-04-2004, 14:25 Originally posted by evildrneil I'm more interested to know who voted "wouldn't know" - do we really have anyone that innocent here?!?! I would say it was me but you wouldn't believe me :D mimicraze 19-04-2004, 22:47 wow how you all love porn! who woulda known... ;) pacman 20-04-2004, 08:22 Originally posted by mimicraze wow how you all love porn! who woulda known... ;) Try asking in public and see if the results are the same ;) Bedhead 20-04-2004, 08:46 i still think that a break down of how the genders voted would have been good Martin_s 20-04-2004, 09:09 Originally posted by Bedhead would be interesting to split the poll into male/female and see what that comes up with (yes, was very tempting to include pun there!) If you wanted to go that route you'd then need to include adult fiction into the debate as that's essentially the female equivalent or so many of my female friends have informed me... As for whether porn is good or bad... Well it has it purpose, ie: titillation but as with anything it has it's drawbacks too... thenewborn 20-04-2004, 09:55 i voted "not bothered" because i never really have been a one for watching it / reading it. i never felt the need, but i dont see how it could harm people so theres nothing wrong with it caz2 20-04-2004, 12:44 What i want to know is why isn't there more porn aimed at women. It all seems to be from a males' point of view. Its all so robotic as well, no real passion just biology! Martin_s 20-04-2004, 12:50 Originally posted by caz2 What i want to know is why isn't there more porn aimed at women. It all seems to be from a males' point of view. Its all so robotic as well, no real passion just biology! Hmm.. there's an interesting topic... what would be a female approach to porn... I always thought it was more the fictional writing aspect that allowed the imagination to run away with itself that was more appreciated by women... Anyone? evildrneil 20-04-2004, 12:56 Originally posted by caz2 What i want to know is why isn't there more porn aimed at women. It all seems to be from a males' point of view. Its all so robotic as well, no real passion just biology! Thats cos women are all pure and innocent (ahem!) Actually a report a little while ago from the states found that the single biggest users of porn were single 30-something women - who almost invariably went for the hardcore end of the market (and often gay male porn) where as men tended to go for the softer fuzzier playboy stylee stuff. Looks like theres a market there for a new porn company - anyone up for a career change ;) caz2 20-04-2004, 14:03 Originally posted by Martin_s Hmm.. there's an interesting topic... what would be a female approach to porn... I always thought it was more the fictional writing aspect that allowed the imagination to run away with itself that was more appreciated by women... Anyone? Porn thats a bit more realistic and focused on sensuality and seduction. Porn is too clinical and all about the male perspective. Something with a story would be nice too (and not one involving a plumber!) sarah_d 20-04-2004, 15:03 .................................... Martin_s 20-04-2004, 15:21 Originally posted by sarah d So i've heard! Uhuh... from a "friend" no doubt ;) :D evildrneil 20-04-2004, 15:28 Originally posted by caz2 Porn thats a bit more realistic and focused on sensuality and seduction. Porn is too clinical and all about the male perspective. Something with a story would be nice too (and not one involving a plumber!) No plumber???? You will be expecting no 'tache next! mimicraze 20-04-2004, 15:49 im up for a career change....;) naa really tho, i think there should be porn aimed at women.. lol... but to tell you the truth i doubt my taste is everyones so i wouldnt know, this erotica story rubbish naaa not for me! FairyNormal 20-04-2004, 15:51 Confession time!! Me and my partner have quite a collection of porn!! Most of it is of the rather 'specialist' variety but we have some regular stuff too. The 'specialist' stuff tends to be different, more words, less pictures I guess!! I suppose it depends on what stuff floats yer boat so to speak! One thing I can assure you is that there are no plumbers in *our* collection!! evildrneil 20-04-2004, 15:52 Originally posted by mimicraze im up for a career change....;) naa really tho, i think there should be porn aimed at women.. lol... but to tell you the truth i doubt my taste is everyones so i wouldnt know, this erotica story rubbish naaa not for me! Probably not - but its the niche stuff thats most interesting ;) Martin_s 20-04-2004, 16:18 I actually had a friend of mine dare me to write some adult fiction a while back of a "specialist" nature *ahem* and needless to say I won that bet and sent her packing for a cold shower.. :D Was quite amusing to say the least :) FairyNormal 20-04-2004, 17:13 Originally posted by Martin_s I actually had a friend of mine dare me to write some adult fiction a while back of a "specialist" nature *ahem* and needless to say I won that bet and sent her packing for a cold shower.. :D Was quite amusing to say the least :) She *dared* you?!!! LMAO!!! Hmmmmm sounds familiar!!! evildrneil 20-04-2004, 17:15 Personally I just write it cos I like writing it :twisted: FairyNormal 20-04-2004, 17:17 Originally posted by evildrneil Persoanlly I just write it cos I like writing it :twisted: Snap!!! evildrneil 20-04-2004, 17:18 I also spell check it!!!! *writes "I must learn to spell one hundred times"*!!! Martin_s 20-04-2004, 18:04 Originally posted by FetishFairy She *dared* you?!!! LMAO!!! Hmmmmm sounds familiar!!! I know... I can actually resist the temptation to take up a dare most days nowadays.. but this one was sooooo guaranteed to blow her socks off I just had to do it... The uncomfortable shifting in the chair, slack jawed pose of astonishment and total re-evaluation of my "geek" persona was worth every second I spent on it.. :thumbsup: SusieP 20-04-2004, 20:28 Those who were talking to me the other night know I'd never seen it before. So I fired up Kazaa and ran a search for porn videos. Rather than being the grotty, sleazy things I expected, it was actually quite well produced and erotic. The women are very beautiful too, and the guys have very nice bodies. MOD - text removed as this is a family forum. I'm not opposed to porn on a moral level, but it's just not something I've ever needed or wanted. genesiscouch 20-04-2004, 20:47 So....where's your normal tag-line.... Susie, flushed. (that's the tamest adjective I could think of) :) Bedhead 20-04-2004, 20:58 Originally posted by SusieP MOD - text removed as this is a family forum. say it how it is why dontcha!! :o SusieP 21-04-2004, 06:50 Originally posted by Bedhead say it how it is why dontcha!! :o I'm sorry! We're all (mostly) adults here! Susie, under pressure to say something here after genesiscouch's comment. Susie, shocked by what people will do. max 21-04-2004, 07:26 MOD - Please try and remember that this is a family forum so refrain from explicitly describing what porn is about. Thanks. Max, trying to be balanced in all this. Bedhead 21-04-2004, 07:41 haha that must get a few people wondering what Susie P had written!!! :D Cyclone 21-04-2004, 08:52 I was under the impression that women bought less porn because they are not visually stimulated to the same degree as men. That is also supported by the erotic fiction thing. bellis 21-04-2004, 20:35 nothing wrong with a porno i do have a large ooer collection of porno dvds:D fnkysknky 22-04-2004, 10:40 Originally posted by Cyclone I was under the impression that women bought less porn because they are not visually stimulated to the same degree as men. That is also supported by the erotic fiction thing. Lots of women love porn, they just don't like admitting it to us men :) mimicraze 28-04-2004, 22:12 why tho? i dunno! i love a bit of good old porn now and again, much to the disgust of my blokey lol Squiggs 28-04-2004, 22:42 Originally posted by fnkysknky Lots of women love porn, they just don't like admitting it to us men :) Only an assumption, but I'm guessing that porn watched by women is more along the erotic line, with at least some attempt at a storyline and build-up Not the "plumber comes round to fix the boiler and ends up 'fixing' a different kind of 'boiler' 2 minutes later...and her 2 housemates while he's at it" variety mimicraze 28-04-2004, 22:52 nope i cant stand the whole storyline thing, i just like a good old... fill in the blank fnkysknky 29-04-2004, 13:38 Originally posted by Squiggs Only an assumption, but I'm guessing that porn watched by women is more along the erotic line, with at least some attempt at a storyline and build-up Not the "plumber comes round to fix the boiler and ends up 'fixing' a different kind of 'boiler' 2 minutes later...and her 2 housemates while he's at it" variety Well to be honest from the women I know who watch it and this may come as a surprise - they couldn't care less about an erotic storyline they just like it dirty :o Maybe it's just the women I know :P mimicraze 29-04-2004, 13:46 fnkysknky your absolutely right! we dont want no boring storyline, we want exactly what yo guys want most of the time!!! t020 29-04-2004, 17:26 Originally posted by mimicraze we dont want no boring storyline, So therefore you do want a boring storyline. (2 negatives = a positive). t020, correcting people. Squiggs 29-04-2004, 17:34 well, I did say it was an assuption... At least I'm more...um...educated now ^_^ assumption was based on a friend who asked a guy @ work for something "softcore, not involving anything that could have been seized by customs" to watch with his g/f. Having been promised that "this video is the ideal thing" it cut straight into scenes which should not be discussed in an open forum =D He spent the rest of the night on the sofa...alone! xD Killian 29-04-2004, 17:50 i'm with mimicraze, who the hell needs a storyline? anyone seen Layla Jade in pornos? she's quite famous in the USA but comes from Teignmouth right here in good ol' Torbay. see, t020, we're not all farmers and village idiots down here. Sony 21-07-2004, 17:47 What are your general views on porn? What are your views on the it, men and women? evildrneil 21-07-2004, 18:00 So long as its consensual and the parties are capable of consenting then I don't see anything wrong with it - though I have a feeling this poll (or something very similar) has been run before? Sony 21-07-2004, 18:04 Originally posted by evildrneil So long as its consensual and the parties are capable of consenting then I don't see anything wrong with it - though I have a feeling this poll (or something very similar) has been run before? It has- but I was more interested in what women and men think about porn. Are men really more interested in porn than women?? Snook 21-07-2004, 18:05 Kinda extreme views there in the poll. Each to their own... i somehow have the feeling its usually more degrading to men. Men will pay lots of money to look at naked women, but women press charges if they have to look at a naked man! There is no justice!!! :D evildrneil 21-07-2004, 18:08 Given that the penis is the single ugliest piece of design ever you can see their point of view! JoeP 21-07-2004, 21:01 There's that old joke about the definition of pornography - I like art, you like erotica, he likes porn. Ignoring the actual definition of porn...... Consensual participation is one thing, but the effect on the wider society of pornography has also to be considered. For example, do users of pornography, especially the harder core material, have their perceptions of 'real world' men and women distorted by their experience of porn? I would say that it degrades and diminishes the user / viewer as well as the person portrayed. Joe Rubber_soul 21-07-2004, 21:12 Originally posted by Sony What are your general views on porn? What are your views on the it, men and women? Aahh so that's why you wanted to know all about DVD/R's Sony 22-07-2004, 06:59 ????????????? No not at all, lol rosie 22-07-2004, 07:18 I am a woman and so here is my opinion. I don`t mind if i want to read my sons magazines i will if i want to watch a movie i will. Having lived in Germany, they don`t try and cover up the porn industry and thats fine. All my sons are cool with me about it, if they have any questions they ask. They have magazines and pictures on their walls and i don`t see anything wrong with that. Magazines are ok if they offend some then don`t pick it up and read it. Being an ex army wife it was part of every day life. Don`t see what all the fuss is about. dylan_61 22-07-2004, 08:23 I find that a well toned female figure is one of the most beautiful things in the world. However some hard up scrubber putting fruit in side herself on the centre page of Rassle is unappealing. A naked female body is beautiful, whilst porn is generally quite seedy. Ange 22-07-2004, 08:39 Theres nothing wrong with porn at all in fact it gives us a lot of pleasure (those that like it that is )and the women takin part enjoy thier role/s and getting paid 4 sumfing they enjoy doing women have beautiful bodies (enjoy )the temple of love x those who dont like porn thats fine but those who do well we can have a little more fun :-0 Wavey 22-07-2004, 09:20 Real hardcore stuff that looks like a biology lesson is boring in the extreme. However, give me Carry On Camping anytime.. cheeky stuff does it for me every time. Chris_Sleeps 22-07-2004, 14:22 I'm starting to consider myself a fan. :) Chris. Fireondaroof 22-07-2004, 14:44 What I want to know is, in this day and age, why can't an erect penis be shown? nomme 22-07-2004, 14:49 Originally posted by Fireondaroof What I want to know is, in this day and age, why can't an erect penis be shown? Can't be shown where? Nomme Chris_Sleeps 22-07-2004, 14:51 Can't be shown while sat on the back of the bus. Chris. :D Fireondaroof 22-07-2004, 15:51 Originally posted by nomme Can't be shown where? Nomme I meant why can't they be shown in Porn, magazines, films? Porn is the title of the thread. Snook 22-07-2004, 16:00 They can is the answer. An example would be the Mainstream french film 'Baise Moi' (I won't translate). miniminch 22-07-2004, 17:59 hi all The other day i accidently pressed the wrong button on my keyboard (coughs) when to my surprise this website came up that contained several thousand links to pictures of porn. Thouroughly ashamed of what I was sat watching I imediately click off after about two or three hours. But while I was there i couldn't help noticing that there was a link to pictures of simulated sex. Simulated sex. What the hell... Who the hell... Who is that for? If you have already made the moral decision to go on a website that contains every concievable deviation of human sexual activity then why oh why would you then say I am only going to look at pictures of naked people who aren't actually doing anything because sex offends me! Ppl tell me is there a moral differance between a picture of a mans penis two inchs away from a womans face or one in which she sucks for real? Why do they have simulated sex? Do they have simulated sex orgies? Could you imagine anything more frustrating? I may be just being dumb again But WHY?:loopy: osiris 22-07-2004, 18:38 I know this is a little off track, but I thought upon seeing this post I would get a few other perspectives. As a teenage lad, of course I had a few magazines. As I got older, I had a few girlfriends. Now I am (supposedly) an adult, I have noticed that it seems women have more to do with porn than men. Certainly, my girlfriends of recent years have all been the ones to suggest renting or buying pornography. In addition, the sex shop has something of a "dirrty old man in a raincoat" stigma attached quite often, yet, they are mostly filled with sex toys for women. So, am I missing someting here or isn't it somewhat hypocritical of women to claim men are obsessed with sex? halevan 22-07-2004, 19:06 What kind of porn are you talkiing about? sexual intercourse between male and female? between male and male? between female and female? adults and children? humans and animals? perversion: i. e. pain, bondage, whipping, suffering? personally, I prefer sex between male and female type of pornography. :loopy: :thumbsup: :P Chris_Sleeps 22-07-2004, 19:13 Originally posted by halevan perversion: i. e. pain, bondage, whipping, suffering? Why is that perverse? If two consenting adults give each other pleasure through pain, bondage and whipping i find it far from perverse. :P Chris. JoeP 25-07-2004, 17:12 I believe there was something called the 'Spanner' case, where sadists and masochists were actually prosecuted for assault - the state does like to interfere in people's consensual private lives.... For many years folks who were into masochism were actually listed in the medical diagnostic manuals as having a specific mental condition that merited treatment. I don't know whether such interests and other fetishes are still listed in DSM-IV or Merck, but there you go.... And just like the flexible definition of pornography.... I'm open minded, you're kinky, he's a pervert. Trekker 25-07-2004, 17:42 I would sooner see that than War, Murder, Crime. Just as long as it's between consenting adults and not anyother rubbish. Trek Fireondaroof 26-07-2004, 14:18 Originally posted by Snook They can is the answer. An example would be the Mainstream french film 'Baise Moi' (I won't translate). But it's not allowed on British TV or anything is it? I've seen that film I enjoyed it, I've only just realised what the title meant though from reading your post ;) Sidla 26-07-2004, 15:12 Well according to the AltaVista translator it means 'Kiss Me'... :confused: mimicraze 26-07-2004, 15:44 its an interesting film, got better as it progressed imo. i recommend watcchinbg, but make sure your not easily offended...!! Ange 26-07-2004, 15:58 i say hold ur head high walk in the sex shops and go buy sum toys ive been in a couple of shops and not felt embarrassed even though theres a male assistant serving they have sum great stuff for all 2enjoy none of us wud b ere if our parents hadnt had sex its the most natural thing in the world 2do so enjoy and make the most of it be a devil hee hee enjoy im not a slapper or anything else just open n honest :wave::o Bedhead 26-07-2004, 16:00 degrading to whom? it doesn't alter any perception i have of women and it probably exploits the user more anyhow - i'm sure women don't find it degrading to men?? i find it pretty boring really and i also think that just as many women as men watch porn probably Snook 26-07-2004, 17:48 Originally posted by Sidla Well according to the AltaVista translator it means 'Kiss Me'... :confused: Doesn't mean kiss... but on the right track... robbie 05-11-2005, 18:02 I personally am not a huge fan of pornography (you may be shocked to hear) but I see no problem in it. As long as the participants are all consenting, legal and no what they are doing. Indeed there are often wonderful creative ideas of uses for household items. I personally don't like it as the women in it are nothing like the women that I'd consider my type or fancy. what does evertyone else think? miniminch 05-11-2005, 18:04 Originally posted by robbie what does evertyone else think? You should get out more!;) Snook 05-11-2005, 18:07 It's kinda been done before here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14273&highlight=pornography) Don't see a problem with it. Can be very useful in a healthy relationship. I think you just have to be careful not to use it too often! As long as it's all legal, I don't see a problem. dawny1 05-11-2005, 18:12 Wouldn't be too chuffed if one of my 3 Daughters or Son appeared in Debbie does Chapeltown, but if all Adults and I stress Adults are consenting (and let's face it, if you don't want to see it don't watch) then I too can't see the problem. Personally - once youve seen one youve seen them all and they are pretty laughable really so it's not something I have got in my video collection of all time greats.:| Berberis 05-11-2005, 18:26 Originally posted by dawny1 ... so it's not something I have got in my video collection of all time greats.:| Oh I dont know, there must be room for a copy of "Shaving Ryans Privates" in there somewhere :hihi: dawny1 05-11-2005, 18:44 Oh - go on then - send me a copy! :D Draggletail 06-11-2005, 00:59 Originally posted by Snook ...... Can be very useful in a healthy relationship. I think you just have to be careful not to use it too often! Sorry Snook. 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