hi there i am a new member. so hey to all who read this :D.

I am trying to find a shaolin kung fu school in sheffield, but nearly all of them are down south.

I want to train in hard and soft chi kung, weapons and various techniques.

Is there a school out in sheffield that can help me? (i hope so).

I found a long fist kung fu adress in the nhs data base but iv lost that, if any body has been to that, could you please give me some feed back :).

thankyou for reading this. waiting to hear from you.

Gaz.

Have you tried the universities? I don't know for sure if there's a Kung Fu club but there are definitely a lot of different martial arts going on. Might be worth checking...

never thought of that, nice one cheers. :)

Your best bets China dude. ....but seriously...have you thought tapping into the local Chinese noodlevine and asking around?? There are any number of Chinese shops and restaurents about full of Chinese people who will probably know best when it comes to all things ...Chinese. Thats exactly how I stumbled across a good Chinese doctor once (years ago).

Persist and prevail........Be r8

K

there's a chinese shop / community centre on london road that has got a good wing chun class

As far as I know there is only 2 reputable clubs in Sheffield one is the long fist and the other is a Lou gar club. I know of a couple of wing chun classes that are ok also.

I have a class in Dinnington just off junction 31 M1.
We do 7 Star Praying Mantis on a Tuesday Thursday and Saturday
and Wing chun on Monday and Saturday.
also San Shou (Chinese KickBoxing) on a Friday Morning.

If you are interested give me a ring Ill pm you with my phone no

Be r8

I have a number for you if you want it I think it’s the same person that teaches in Sheffield but he is from Chesterfield I think??????

Hi i know the lau gar club in sheffield teach a southern shaolin form of kung fu and i am pretty sure they teach chi gung to the advanced students as well as weapons, but you ll have to be determind because these are things that they don't show beginners for obvious reasons,check them out www.prokungfu.com

As far as I know there is only 2 reputable clubs in Sheffield one is the long fist and the other is a Lou gar club. I know of a couple of wing chun classes that are ok also.

I have a class in Dinnington just off junction 31 M1.
We do 7 Star Praying Mantis on a Tuesday Thursday and Saturday
and Wing chun on Monday and Saturday.
also San Shou (Chinese KickBoxing) on a Friday Morning.

If you are interested give me a ring Ill pm you with my phone no

dave, san shou on a friday MORNING?

just out of interest, how many people do you get to that class? enough to make it worthwhile i assume, but it does seem an odd time if you don't mind me saying so! :D

Odd place, too - I'd go if it was somewhere a little more accessible!

iceman
lau gar is about southern chinese as the chicken tikka masala is indian :P

JOKE= what do lau gar and the balti have in common?
Answer= they were both made in birmingham

LOL

Hi freddy i think you have a problem with Lau Gar Hmm what could it be,
perhaps you've been beaten by a lau gar student, or is it something that you yourself have tried and failed at? after all it isn't easy. .Don't be scared of the unknown freddy be brave and face your demons.

....Waiting for freddy to change the subject to kickboxing...

...her goes...

lol@iceman
yeah really difficult,... ho ho ho

we had these twin boys from lau gar who were purple belts graded by graham
when they first arrived they could neither punch or kick properly
maybe not even white/red belt standard!

both boys were from my old school so i knew them from before but even they were shocked at the difference in proper training

so much for standards in lau gar :P

or maybe coz they passed their forms?

Anvil, Crayfish

I only get about 2 or 3 people but I do it more for myself I don’t charge them as they come regular to other classes.
As for the time and place well the place is free and it’s on my door step well almost and it’s the time that’s ok with them.

I thought I had a room in Sheffield but that didn’t come about for 1 thing or another anyway Dinnington isn’t that hard to get to its only just off the M1 and you can get a bus from Sheffield.

davemantis - what do you teach?

It would be a refreshing change to hear about a club other than AFK.

its always the same with freddy - his place is the best and everybody else is crap!

Anyone interested in bench-testing some of thier martial arts skills...?

Monday night Poi club...Highfield Church hall...London Rd...7-9pm

:)

K

pity cos i go to tai chi mondays at that time, otherwise i'd be up for a go

As the weather improves I will be spending heaps of time at Mount Pleasant Park in Sharrow..with loads of spare Poi....and plenty of room to throw lots of big shapes!! :)

K

It's bussable? Oo... I don't do anything friday mornings

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I teach

7 Star Praying Mantis
Tuesday 7pm, Thursday 7.30pm in Dinnington and Sunday 1.30 at Doncaster airport.

Wing Chun
Tuesday 8pm and Saturday 10am in Dinnington

San Shou (Chinese kickboxing)
Friday at 10am in Dinnington

I tend to focus more on the application than what it looks like. If you can’t use it or understand it you might as well just be doing another version of body combat.

Aye, it doesn't have to look pretty if it works!!

Kato are you asking us to test our coordination?? I think you'll find anyone used to training in traditional chinese weapons(forms and applications) will have great co-ordination with those weapons otherwise we'd be walking around with cuts(if live blade) and bruises.

Personally i think i'll stick to sabre, sword or spear mirror style (left hand) for variety...

I teach those who want to learn how to literally see what they are doing in a way I have never come across in any martial arts school...Chinese, Japanese or other. I have no doubts that even those with fine weapons skills would still find a few hours with me a lot of fun :)

I too can make lots of shapes...and apply them with all manner of weapons...

..with both hands....for fun :)

....and yes n_tomo...this would be a great way to test your skills and I openly invite you and anyone game to come and practice with me :)

Keep an open mind..

K

....in addendum...

I work on the fact that you see through your eyes....not with them. My real vision happens somewhere else. Grace, speed and power in what I do only come together as one when my vision is firmly in place...thats the bit that can be learned in a day but takes years to refine. ...and I constantly remind myself about it.

It has to be said..if you really want to excel at something..especially if you want to make it your own..you will be just a touch obsessed with it. I am obsessed with one thing...and thats exactly how my vision is working. I know that when it is in place..I can allow my body to pull any shape I see fit, at any speed; in any direction with as much power as is necessary knowing that it is physically capable of doing so. The breaking has already been done..largely thanks to poi..so for me, now, it is very much a case of allow it to happen as opposed to make it happen.

....and one thing I found out years ago.... the study of time and motion only really pays off if you have a well developed sense of humour :)

K

So are you saying it is a martial art or an exercise program??????
I might be getting it wrong but it sounds like what you are saying is what you do is better than any exercise, meditation or martial arts program out there. If so good luck but as for as I can tell from what you have put it has nothing to do with kung fu apart from you clam it makes shapes the same as kung fu but unless you have studied a lot of KF how can you know that??????????

The energy of each style be it KF, Karate, Kick Boxing, Judo and so on are all different so to me you might get some benefit but in the long run it will contradict the theories and energy of the style that you are doing.

Aye...does sound good, doesn't it :) .....beacause it can be anything you want it to be.

At the end of the day...what is it you are really trying to train? Is it you muscles? Is it your brain? ..how you see the world around you and in you??? ...your sense of humour perhaps??????????????? :)

Are you doing it to become a better person? ..or are you simply trying to share something you love with like-minded people and introduce it to those who havn't seen it?

You wont find me putting many labels on this for the reason I mentioned above.. but for claritys sake, and to give a little more insight into how I see Poi, I shall try to explain a few things..using the odd label now and again :)

First and foremost, the name 'Poi' is one of the very few labels I use. It is a commonly accepted name for a pasttime enjoyed by a great many poeple all over the world. It is only a name.

Secondly, I have taken something that was once a hobby and turned it into an exacting science. I have drawn upon eperience gathered over the years to create a comprehensive system of...yes..exercise.. and dance..and meditation etc etc........and indeed, what could be a beautifully dynamic and formidably powerful fighting system. Ultimately, at least in tangeable terms, you are only playing with physics...no matter what you call it or what you're holding in your mitts :)

Finally, yes, the way I do Poi does make KF shapes (sounds like something on a KFC menu :) ) .....anyway..... please note that in one of my earlier posts I invited people to come and bench-test..some..of thier skills. For example, Poi is not normally associated with kicking, but, with the controllable pendulous momentum I generate in my body with the poi, a well timed and placed kick would have an added energy to it. For the legs, I employ footwork commonly found in Wing Chun, Aikido and Tai Chi...on occasions, stopping just short of kicking. A little ballet here and there doesnt hurt either :) ...really :) I can say that there are energies found in some martial arts that you will rarely go near with the poi. Conversly, there are energies in poi that would seldom be used in certain other arts. What I want is for people like you guys to come and see where we cross over. I sincerely believe we could not only learn a lot from each other...we could also have damn good fun because I know we could relate to one another on similar terms. I see no possibility of contradictions at all...only perfect cross-pollination. As I mentioned in another post, I am familiar with Oriental weaponry...I have practiced with a small arsenal of it for many years...the relevance being that most of the shapes you would throw in my system of Poi are remarkably similar if not identical to many found with those weapons; as taught the East. They follow exactly the same planes and can hold just as much energy. I also place as much importance on basics to my practice of poi as you would with your art.

...nuff 4 now :)

....a.f.q? :)

K

ps: use a search engine and type in 'the literal meaning of kung fu' in the search box...you'd be surprised at how different meanings there really are! :)

pps: I took up skateboarding a couple of months ago....FANTASTIC for the old KF legs!!! AMAZING for the balance!!! VUNDERBARR for ze avareness!!! :)

K

....some more comparisons to paint more vivid pictures for you... :)

Sometimes when I practice poi, I relate to it as... Yoga with afterburners..moving into stillness through the use of orbital, cyclic motion. More often than not I treat it as a sort of calibration tool.. ie, through a series of specific movements I can accurately guage how evenly my power is being distributed throughout my whole body...taking into account that the whole system has to work as one. I can effectively re-align my entire machine with very little effort. I also see it very much as the art of getting it wrong gracefully.. because of all the objects I've picked up over the years and learned to swing round my head, poi have to be the most infuriating in terms of testing ones patience :) Even the seven foot three-section staff beasty falls way behind with respect 'difficulty' in my view :) ..(that is, of course, for those who like to take poi as far as I do)

K

Yet still after all you say i don’t see any thing from what you put that makes me feel like im missing anything from my training (get all you say from my own training)

to me it down to how you think and train in your given Art.

Your training sound as good as mine :)

I couldn't agree more on the thinking and training bit, ..but when you say you get all that I get..I, with the utmost respect, must ask you to reserve judgement until I have shown you, first hand, what it is I'm talking about. Words will never do justice to reality in debates like these. Neither of us are the most eloquent of writers and this whole excercise is all part of the learning process. If what you say is true then I am genuinely excited at the prospect of swapping shapes with you at some point :) It is precisely people of your calibre I want to work with...alongside those who just want to have a bit of fun in the park on a sunny day :) You defend your arts with an almost religious zeal and I like that..although, I do like being able to draw outside the borders :)

Come and make some circles and straight lines with me Dave...go on......, it'll be fun :)

...and never say never :)

K

ps..does it annoy you that I use the word 'shapes'? I dont wish to demean anyones art in doing so...I just like the uber-objective approach to the big picture :) (kids pick up on things far quicker when I say.. 'ok, pretend you can make..this shape!.. ;) )

KATO
I have classes on the same night

RE Shapes
To me most if not all things have shape it’s a way of life. to do something you need your body to form a shape to sleep your body makes a shape, to think you need to shape your mind, nature also has shapes, you shape your destiny. But its what you do with it that counts.

I like to play with my shapes :) :) :)

I know about your Mondays ;) ..I really meant whenever..wasn't being too specific because I know you have commitments throughout the week. I'll let you know when more is happening over the summer and perhaps we could hook up and have a spin :)

...peace...

K :)

Be r8

did you find the club ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????

iv have just got back from holiday, so i havent looked yet. but its on my list on things to do.
thanks for the check up though :)

Be r8
If you send me a private message ill give you the phone number that I have

Sifu Sam Kwok and Sifu Trevor Jefferson will be holding a joint Wing Chun seminar on Sunday 14th May.

£30 per person
The Bridge Hotel
Newcastle
12-5pm

Be r8
I have a new website now; mind you it’s not fully completed yet.
You can find it at www.mfcba.co.uk

it might help you find what you want good hunting.

Just to let everyone know Cung Le the world sanshou / sanda / Chinese Kickboxing champion is now a world MMA champion after beating shamrock the year ;-)

Part of Cung le’s interview
Sanshou in MMA
"Sanshou is the perfect stand-up art for MMA because it has all the elements – the punching, the kicking, the wrestling. It has all the elements that you need for the stand-up game for MMA. The only missing element is the ground stuff – the jiu-jitsu and the ground and pound. I think sanshou is effective because when you throw someone, you get more points in sanshou when you stay standing. If you go down with them, you're at more of a threat to be submitted. In sanshou, you stay standing and that limits your chance of being submitted. When you take someone down in MMA, they got guillotines, they can transition to arm bars, they can roll for your leg.
"I think for me as a fighter, what I bring to the MMA cage of the ring is more exciting because I keep things going, instead of going down where there's more of a stalemate. So if I throw someone down, people get to enjoy the throw and the action doesn't stop because someone's working the guard or working trying to get position. That guy gets to get up and exchange again. Now if there's a scramble, like I had against Frank, and I'm able to scramble out of danger, that's more exciting than being in someone's guard and looking to pass his guard. There's some elements of excitement when there's ground and pound. When you get a good punch on the ground, the guy gets rocked and you get position. You're punching him and you transition into submission. But you see that a lot. What I feel you don't see a lot is you take one down with a high altitude throw, and you walk away and you let them come back. That was my game plan. I said I was going to sanshou Frank. And I did.
"Frank is one of those guys who likes to get in your head before the fight. During the weigh-ins, every chance he gets he's going to try to get in your head and that's what he tried to do to me. So basically, he got taken down, so instead of being embarrassed and getting back up, he neutralized it. People were like, ‘Ohh, look how Frank's inviting Cung in!' People almost forgot. How did he get down on the ground? It was a sanshou takedown. I caught his kick. I swept out his leg. He fell down. He invited me in and I said ‘no thank you.'
"What I feel is, there's a lot of guys that are a lot smoother and a lot more fun to watch on the ground than I am. So those are the guys that you go to watch them perform and do their stuff on the ground. Now people, they get a little different element of that when they come watch me fight. My ground game is getting better. But I feel like I'm not like a Jake Shields or someone like B. J. Penn. And I'm not trying to be like them. I'm trying to make my mark as Cung Le, the kung fu sanshou fighter, transitioning into MMA. It's who I am and it's where I came from. I'm sticking to my roots and I'm evolving with this whole sport – a new explosion of mixed martial arts."


Highlights of some of his fight are at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDqlB5aMY40&feature=related

for more info on chinese kickboxing and sanda feel freeto contact me

That's why I asked the question. Although BL made it look good in demos, as far as I'm aware he never actually competed. I guess my question is, does Wing Chun work in a real fight? It looks good in demos but then so do most martial arts.
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Just because you have learnt to fight in a ring does not mean you can fight on the streets, decide what you want from martial arts. If you want to learn how to fight in a real life or death situation fast, then you learn, Wing chun, or many various forms of Gong fu...aka kung fu...or learn Muay Thai defence techniques, or Krav maga, or street self defence started my an ex Royal marine.
If you have the luxury of time, then learn Aikido or Wadu Ryu, or Ti chi chuan traditional style.
If you want to learn MMA then dont do a traditional style. I know many champion fighters who kick ass in the ring but can bnot fight on the street. On the street there are no rules bub ;), and no ref !!!

I know many champion fighters who kick ass in the ring but can bnot fight on the street.

Who, and how do you know they can't fight in the street? Do you make a habit of jumping MMA champions?

Hey bub, just google your question poised, you will get 150000 at least dependent upon how you phrase your search parameters bub ;). I can tell you of what I have witnessed, but your better of reading and watching news reports bub ;), that way you know it is reliable, and will have no more doubt in your mind. It is a good reality check for you bub ;).

NEW TRADITIONAL NORTHERN MANTIS KUNG FU CLASSES IN WORKSOPhttp://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=507036&highlight=kung

hi there i am a new member. so hey to all who read this :D.

I am trying to find a shaolin kung fu school in sheffield, but nearly all of them are down south.

I want to train in hard and soft chi kung, weapons and various techniques.

Is there a school out in sheffield that can help me? (i hope so).

I found a long fist kung fu adress in the nhs data base but iv lost that, if any body has been to that, could you please give me some feed back :).

thankyou for reading this. waiting to hear from you.

Gaz.

kung fu come from CHINA. and Bluce Lee (http://www.kicknike.com)has perfect kungfu, but he is dead.

Oh God, another one. Is this some sort of convention?

Awwww SiSiSi is having another tantrum, someone give her a new dummy ...fast....poor little love, we all love u SiSiSi old love :D.

Maybe there's been a mass escape frome somewhere?

from somewhere

There's a great range of martial arts and Kung Fu in Sheffield. I hope you find one that's suitable for you :-)

There's a great range of martial arts and Kung Fu in Sheffield. I hope you find one that's suitable for you :-)

Yes you're right there Daniel Sheffield has some great kung fu schools probably one of the longest established is the Sheffield Academy of Martial Arts
( www.prokungfu.com ) i know they have been teaching kung fu since the early eighties.

I used to train and it is all of what you say above if not more :)

What are the prices?

Krate shotokan enywhere in sheffield?

Everybody gets a free kung fu lesson with us :-)