Anyone remember them.

The offices used to be in Pond Street, near the old rent place.
Anyone know any names of the old drivers of the coaches?

When I left school in the late 50s, S U T were just about the only private coach firm in Sheffield. They took us to Belgium on a school trip in 1956, the driver was called uncle Simm by us kids, presumably that was his surname, I well remember the coach being slung aboard the ferry by a crane, this was before roll on roll off ferries. We thought it was really posh, because it had a polished wood bulkhead with a clock set in it, I believe the coaches were A E Cs.

Yep, remember SUT as a kid for the day trips to Brid. etc.
It was all very exciting as we didn't have a car. Those coaches with the wooden bulkhead and clock had a very pleasant, distinctive smell. (No idea what) The coach journey was the best bit.
My parents always gave the driver a tip.

When I was in my teens I travelled SUT with Wednesday Supporters Club which was quite ironic (Sheffield United Travel)
We all ways had a whip-round for the driver most of whom were a tolerant bunch.
There was one who wouldn't stop for me to take a leak though, the b*****d ( 2 pints in the Penny Black before departure) In the end I had to hunker down on the back seat and try my best to get it in an empty sherry bottle. With the narrow neck and the coach bouncing about it was no easy task.
What to do with it then?
The coach dropped us off right outside the ground with the Bill everywhere and as the old Baseball Ground was a bit of a toilet I left it in a corner on the terraces (as I didn't fancy walking though the Derby fans to get to the so-called toilets )
Anyway that driver has left me with a weak bladder by not stopping for a couple of minutes!
Other than that I thought the drivers were a good bunch of blokes.
I couldn't put a name to any though

Brian Brady is the name of one of the drivers. (That was me in 1964!) Mosty of the coaches back then were A.E.C. Burlinghams, under floor engine, centre door on the left side. The coaches used to be called 'goldfish bowls'. I remember driving a coach that we called the 'Golden Coach', it had won a 'concours de elegance' in Brighton in the early '60's. Wood-grain sides, and a radio!!!!! No air conditioning or on board toilet, though.

Hi Old Timer.
You must have worked there then with a Walt Fothergill and Pete Crofts. Do you remember them.
Hows life in Canada treating you?

Knew a couple of guys with those first names, never did know their last names, though. Love it in Canada, been here since 1965, wouldn't want to live anywhere else, (he says, looking out the window at a foot of snow!!!!) Been a bus driver since 1979, city work only, good money, awesome medical benefits!! Could retire with full pension in June this year, but have decided not to!
Been reading with interest about buses in Sheffield, I can't believe how bad it is! I drove for SCTD just before SUT, I don't remember it being so bad, in fact, it was classified as a better job than most. What happened?
I hate to say this, but it looks to me like the 'powers that be' have lost control (if that's the word) of the youth in Sheffield, it seems like they (youth) have no respect, although I am a firm believer that respect is earned, not taken for granted. When I left Sheffield in 1965, vandalism, and all the other forms of violence, were not tolerated, as some of the older posters on this forum will tell you, the copper would give you a clip around the earole, then you got another one when you got home. Also, the bobby lived just down the street! Knew what you were up to all the time, no air-conditioned cop cars to insulate them back then.

In 1955 I worked for a decorating company called "Gabbitas & Wood" A forman there who used to do the sign writing on the S.U.T buses His name was Betts.

I’m not quite sure about this, but wasn’t Sheffield United Tours originally formed out of two companies? One was Hancocks — they had a furniture warehouse, Hancock and Lant, which just after the second world war moved to a site near Lady’s Bridge — and the other was, as you say, Sheffield United Tours. It was a merger rather than a buy-out. I well remember the old Hancock coaches and went on one to be among the first to travel through Liverpool’s Mersey Tunnel!

I used to use the SUT service to race meetings and I think the driver was called Jack. He'd take the bus to Doncaster on the Friday via the old Conisborough route and allow the bookies to leave their tackle in the boot for the following day. After the 'cap' had been brought round, there was a big shout: "He thanks you one and all"
There was a period when the car was becoming popular when SUT wouldn't run unless they'd got 15 wanting to go. As a result, people who needed to be there went to Rotherham to travel on the Riley's bus and this was the beginning of the end. I remember before it moved to Pond Street, you could book down the Arcade off The Moor.
Another driver who took the SUT coaches, including the team bus of Sheffield Wednesday, Colin Parsons, otherwise known as 'Big Col'.

Now I'm going to show my age!

Befor it was called SUT (Sheffield United Tours) it was called UMS (United Motor Services). Can't remember when they changed the name. It could have been in the 1940s or early 1950s - a long time ago.

In addition to all the other services, I think they ran a daily bus to Blackpool. It may not have been an all-year-round service, just the summer and for the Illuminations. Anybody remember it?

You’re quite right Falls! Now you’ve jogged my memory, United Motor Services was the name given to the merger! Before that, Hancocks was a bus company on its own but still owned by Mr Hancock of Hancock and Lant.
Thanks for enlightening me!

I remember the name U.M.S as well. Perhaps it was they that had the booking office on the Union Street arcade, at the head of which the blind man selling lavender stood?
I can also recall occasions when Sheffield Wednesday's fixture at Bloomfield Road, Blackpool, clashed with the town's illuminations and the match excursion bus was extended to take in a tour of the lights about 7pm.
One such occasion would have been 29 August 1964!

I think my Uncle Lol Francis worked for SUT some years agoas a driver.Might be wrong.

At one time S.U.T. was based on Olive Grove Road, opposite the bus depot.

I think my Uncle Lol Francis worked for SUT some years ago as a driver.Might be wrong.

It's over 35 years ago now and I rather think my memory of 'Jack' might be wrong because LOL rings more of a bell. I think he was smallish, stocky man with wavy hair? He always took the racing bus. I think Jack (Room) was the tic-tac who took the hat round!

My uncle Lol was about 5'9" with blonde wavey hair,lived on the Arbourthorne.

Would that have been about 1964-74 time? I think he is the man who took the racing bus and he was excellent. He understood the needs of the workmen who had to be on course by a given time and if it was a Friday/Saturday meeting, you could leave your tools in the boot.
The excursions died a death because cars came more into being and the numbers wanting the bus dwindled.
There was a day when there were twelve wanting to go. SUT said they needed 15 to run. We offered to buy the extra three seats between us but they wouldn't accept it. It then became a case of will they/won't they? and people needing to be there started to make alternative arrangements.

Used 2 go on day trips from the SUT below pond street b4 it was taken over by National travel.

Would that have been about 1964-74 time? I think he is the man who took the racing bus and he was excellent. He understood the needs of the workmen who had to be on course by a given time and if it was a Friday/Saturday meeting, you could leave your tools in the boot.
The excursions died a death because cars came more into being and the numbers wanting the bus dwindled.
There was a day when there were twelve wanting to go. SUT said they needed 15 to run. We offered to buy the extra three seats between us but they wouldn't accept it. It then became a case of will they/won't they? and people needing to be there started to make alternative arrangements.
Yes it could have been around that time.

Went to loads of Owls away games in the 70s on the SUT, Wednesday started running the ICO (Inter City Owl) in the 80s and many fans started booking with them that must have put a big hole in the SUT business.

SUT became National Travel east. They continued to operate until possibly the late 70s early 80s. The business ended up as part of West Riding and was used to run normal service buses as Sheffield & District . The depot ended up as Sheafline after it had been bought out by SYT (First South Yorkshires a Mainline predessor) For a limited period during the late 80's early 90's buses were run from the depot under the SUT banner .

The fleet name Sheffield Untied Tours is now onwed I believe by Wallace Arnold , which is of course now part of Shearings

Anyone remember them.

The offices used to be in Pond Street, near the old rent place.
Anyone know any names of the old drivers of the coaches?


My late father Walt Fothergill worked for the SUT before that it was UMS.
I also knew Pete Crofts

I worked in the offices during the school holidays of 1955, whilst waiting for my GCE results. They were situated somewhere at the bottom of Eastbank Road I think. Would that have been Charlotte Road?

The only driver I remember now is Rodney Garside, a larger than life character with a magnificent beard. I think he worked mainly on continental tours. He turned up again later in my life as my driving instructor

SUT used to run trips to various racecourses in the 70`s. The missus and I used to go to many meetings with them, although they cancelled a few trips when not enough tickets had been sold. However, when that happened they would contact Riley`s of Rotherham to find out if they were running a trip. Great days, especially for us without transport.:hihi:

I can remember going with the SUT on angling trips in the seventies, Sundays and i think Thursdays were the days for the coach from pond street.
In the same era Law Brothers coaches also ran weekly fishing trips if a am right?

I remember the name of the driver, Colin Parsons, who in the 40's drove the Wednesday team coach. He was known as 'Big Col' and sadly he was the driver when the Owls' team coach crashed on the A1 coming back from Wednesday's Boxing Day fixture at Highbury in 1960 - an incident I don't really want to dwell on.

I remember back in the 70's going with the SUT Tours on angling trips, you used to depart from the semi circular building that was in front /adjacent of the Queens head pub ( I think that was the name of the pub) in Pond Street bus station.There used to be, what I thought a very frail old fellow (No idea of his name) running the show & shouting out the destinations, IE Tattershall bridge,Sibsey trader & a whole other variety of locations en route.I was only very young then & on my own but a period of no fear & all seemed very friendly, all had one cause in mind ,course fish & no one ever got water licked because they would fib about their catches!!! Aye the one that got away?.I think the legenday Ivan marks once participated but it was a long time ago.
I just watch my GOLD FISH now

I remember back in the 70's going with the SUT Tours on angling trips, you used to depart from the semi circular building that was in front /adjacent of the Queens head pub ( I think that was the name of the pub) in Pond Street bus station.There used to be, what I thought a very frail old fellow (No idea of his name) running the show & shouting out the destinations, IE Tattershall bridge,Sibsey trader & a whole other variety of locations en route.I was only very young then & on my own but a period of no fear & all seemed very friendly, all had one cause in mind ,course fish & no one ever got water licked because they would fib about their catches!!! Aye the one that got away?.I think the legenday Ivan marks once participated but it was a long time ago.
I just watch my GOLD FISH now
I remember these angling excursions at weekends so well, and the old guy who would shout out the venue (Tattershall Bridge, Chapel Hill, Hubberts Bridge, Wyberton, Malcolm Arms at Antons Gowt, then up the Trader and would park up at Bridge Farm (incidently the coach stop sign is still there, even though i would say these excursion might have stopped around the early 80s), as you say very friendly with no fear (we were at school) and plenty of fishing tips from the old guys on the way down. Happy Days.

Are there any photo,s around of S.U.T coaches Thanks.

When I left school in the late 50s, S U T were just about the only private coach firm in Sheffield. They took us to Belgium on a school trip in 1956, the driver was called uncle Simm by us kids, presumably that was his surname, I well remember the coach being slung aboard the ferry by a crane, this was before roll on roll off ferries. We thought it was really posh, because it had a polished wood bulkhead with a clock set in it, I believe the coaches were A E Cs.

I thought Carnells were the first private coaches in Sheffield.

I have a book called SHEFFIELD UNITED TOURS 1935 TO 1985, a limited company was formed on the 1/March 1935 following the take over of kitsons the name was now Sheffield United Tours but, but the UMS and Hancocks were still used UNTIL THE EARLY YEARS OF THE SECOND WORLD WAR.after the war SUT was then used on all trips etc.

I can remember queueing for hrs to get what I think were S U T tickets for Blackpool for Sheffield Works weeks which were the last wk in July and the first wk in August. The steelworks closed down then and all Sheffield was seen to be in Blackpool. My Dad queued first and we went down later to give him a break.
We seemed to queue down the lane by the side of the old police station and right round to the S U T shop close to the bridge near the wicker. ?
I'm not sure whether this memory is right because it must have been nearly 55/60 yrs ago.
I can also remember queueing for coal in about the same place when Sheffield was covered in snow, must have been the winter of 1948 when Sheffield came to a stand still.
hazel

The SUT coaches were painted red apart from the coach that was
contracted to carry the Sheff Wed Team - That was painted BLUE with
the SUT logo in the usual places.

The fans had to travel in the red coaches but a few blue and white banners
etc. made it feel better !

Are there any photo,s around of S.U.T coaches Thanks.

Sorry can't find any photos but you and others may find THIS (http://www.petergould.co.uk/local_transport_history/fleetlists/sheffield1.htm) Of interest, at the bottom of the page is a fleet list and history of SUT 1935 to 1974.

At one time S.U.T. was based on Olive Grove Road, opposite the bus depot.

Wasn't it on Charlotte Road, just across from Olive Grove, my mates dad a Godfrey Taylor worked in the office?

Spent many happy hours driving SUTs coaches as a part-time driver in the 70s. Boyhood ambition to have a PSV licence achieved.Lovely AEC Reliances mainly with good looking bodywork by Plaxtons of Scarborough.

Spent many happy hours driving SUTs coaches as a part-time driver in the 70s. Boyhood ambition to have a PSV licence achieved.Lovely AEC Reliances mainly with good looking bodywork by Plaxtons of Scarborough.

AEC Reliance/Plaxton Reg. No. 1322 WA which was SUT No. 322 is on display at Sheffield Bus Museum at Tinsley. See the web site at
http://freespace.virgin.net/neil.worthington/sheff/

I know it is - driven it lots of time. Sounded lovely with a typical AEC engine and transmission noise (if that is the right word to describe the sound)

My grandad drove an AEC Reliance for the S.U.T in the late 50,s early 60,s.
He was called Bernard Sellers. It would be amazing if anyone rememberd him.
I do have a picture of him standing next to his coach at Torquey if any wants to email me i'll send the picture

Wasn't there a Geoff/Jeff Cox?

hi brian,you might not remember me after all these years but we both drove at the sut allen jenkins is my name i work there till it changed to national travel what happy days

Hi just recently joined the forum and seen this page. I remember having holidays run by the SUT, in fact my first holiday abroad was with them and I went to Holland with a friend, had a wonderful time. Also had one or two holidays in England with them, e.g. Newquay, Isle of Wight, Torquay, etc. Seems a long time ago now!!

PS: I'm also an owls fan!!

In the early 1970's, I went to Jersey and to Paris via S.U.T.

SUT used to supply their very oldest coaches for the Bradfield school run from Stannington in the late 60's and 70's - I remember them well - chugging up Spout Lane !

While on the subject of transport in the 50's, can anyone remember the Sheffield tram driver who used to wear a bow tie?

SUT had a Scot called McArthur who drove for them. He lived at Millhouses on Hartington Rd. He did a lot of the seaside resorts including Skeggy in the days when SUT parked up at the rear of the Lumley Hotel.
Somewhere on the net is a list of names the coaches were given i.e. "Gay Cutler", "Gay Blade" and "Gay Owl" and many other "Gays" these coaches were called "Gay Class" and were first put on coaches with Windovers bodies (AEC chassis of course). The Duple bodied "Elizabethan Class" were named after famous explorers and the like, then came the Burlington Seagull bodies with place names i.e. Paris, Montreux etc and almost finally the famous Plaxton Panorama bodys whose names all started "Panorama" and had a second name.

regards
neil memmott

I doubt anyone will remember him but as some old SUT driver names are being mentioned I thought I might as well try.... my dad used to drive for them - Jack Booker. He was a bus driver at some point in the '60's too. I'm not sure if he just did it part time for SUT though because I recall him moving on to drive for Drabbles Coaches at a much later stage.

I doubt anyone will remember him but as some old SUT driver names are being mentioned I thought I might as well try.... my dad used to drive for them - Jack Booker. He was a bus driver at some point in the '60's too. I'm not sure if he just did it part time for SUT though because I recall him moving on to drive for Drabbles Coaches at a much later stage.

I remember a family at Commonside called Booker - Gordon was one of them - and I thought his dad was associated with SUT?

I don't know of any Booker connections from Commonside - my dad is originally from Pitsmoor (Grove Street) and then after he married my mum they moved into a brewery tied house on Penistone Road (Shalesmoor), opposite the Globe Works. Sadly this was demolished for the tramline to cut through it after standing derelict for many years. I would presume that it would have been while he was living here that he worked for SUT but I may be wrong, it could have been before or indeed afterwards as I was only 2 when we left the house and moved onto Hyde Park Flats.

My grandad drove an AEC Reliance for the S.U.T in the late 50,s early 60,s.
He was called Bernard Sellers. It would be amazing if anyone rememberd him.
I do have a picture of him standing next to his coach at Torquey if any wants to email me i'll send the picture

I remember Bernard Sellars working as a regulator for sheffield transport in fitzalan sqare.I got made up to regulator from a driver in 1972 and took over from Bernard when he retired.He showed me the ropes.

can anyone remember little ron bird? i believe he drove for SUT prior to driving for national express out of the sheffield depot

While on the subject of transport in the 50's, can anyone remember the Sheffield tram driver who used to wear a bow tie?

Hi malc he was a bus driver later at Townhead Street his mate Beryl was in the Star a few months back his name was Harold and always wore a bow tie for work

nice pics on here
www.pixalo .com
or google images SHEFFIELD UNITED TOURS

Brian Brady is the name of one of the drivers. (That was me in 1964!) Mosty of the coaches back then were A.E.C. Burlinghams, under floor engine, centre door on the left side. The coaches used to be called 'goldfish bowls'. I remember driving a coach that we called the 'Golden Coach', it had won a 'concours de elegance' in Brighton in the early '60's. Wood-grain sides, and a radio!!!!! No air conditioning or on board toilet, though.

My dad still has the wings that were fastened to the right hand side of this coach!

Hi malc he was a bus driver later at Townhead Street his mate Beryl was in the Star a few months back his name was Harold and always wore a bow tie for work

I think his name was Harold Norton. Was he also a good singer?

Duffems

I remember Norman Bird and Ronnie Bird both worked for SUT and both worked for Sheffield Transport.they both lived with their mother prior to getting married at 37 Baker Street Attercliffe which was next door but one t to me before I got married I remember Norman working with his wife she was a conductress in 1956 Norman went on to being a HGV instuctor Ronnie later worked for Sheafline and then when they were taken over worked from Olive Grove.Norman used to live off Staniforth Road where Dexel tyres is then he lived just above Malin Bridge when I lived at Stannington Ronnie lived on Parson Cross.A great pair of guys.I remember Ronnie also working for a small private baker delivering goods.

I remember Norman Bird and Ronnie Bird both worked for SUT and both worked for Sheffield Transport.they both lived with their mother prior to getting married at 37 Baker Street Attercliffe which was next door but one t to me before I got married I remember Norman working with his wife she was a conductress in 1956 Norman went on to being a HGV instuctor Ronnie later worked for Sheafline and then when they were taken over worked from Olive Grove.Norman used to live off Staniforth Road where Dexel tyres is then he lived just above Malin Bridge when I lived at Stannington Ronnie lived on Parson Cross.A great pair of guys.I remember Ronnie also working for a small private baker delivering goods.i remember ronnie always bringing the national travel coach home in the 70s-80s prior to his retirement he ' sadly passed away about 6yr ago after along fight with illness, atop bloke sadly missed

My dad still has the wings that were fastened to the right hand side of this coach!

was the wooden panel coach 336? (1336wj?)

This coach registration number was 336 DWJ and the wooden panels were in fact 'Arborite' which was laminated directly onto the metal. I remember seeing this coach when it was new and looked really nice but I understand that the effect did'nt wear well. The coach was written off in the early seventies.

I have an excellent book written by Trevor Weckert called 'Sheffield United Tours A brief history. It is published by Venture Publications Ltd of Glossop. It gives you the history from the very beginning to it's sad end and it is loaded with photographs of coaches, some with their drivers; a good £10 worth for any enthusiast.

There used to be a list of SUT coach names in circulation at one time and if anyone has a copy I would pleased if they will contact me.

yeah thats the one, how much do you think the wings and shield would be worth off that now as my dad paid £65 over 10 years ago (he's a massive SUT fanatic) he has that book also.

When I left school in the late 50s, S U T were just about the only private coach firm in Sheffield. They took us to Belgium on a school trip in 1956, the driver was called uncle Simm by us kids, presumably that was his surname, I well remember the coach being slung aboard the ferry by a crane, this was before roll on roll off ferries. We thought it was really posh, because it had a polished wood bulkhead with a clock set in it, I believe the coaches were A E Cs.

Not quite the only coach company. There was, from well before
the war and a short time after, Hancock’s; the owner also being the Hancock from furniture repository owners Hancock and Lant. I think, if my memory serves me, Hancock’s coaches were taken over by S.U.T.

A F Hancock was one of the first Directors of SUT although many individual companys actually made up SUT.
I wonder if "Uncle" Simm was one of the two brothers who also had their own companys running coaches in Sheffield in the fifties and sixties. I can remember E. H. Simm and I think the other was J H Simm but I'm not sure what actually happened to either of these two companies. Around this time were Fantoms Coaches whose garage was in Queens Road where the carwash is now, the last coach they had as I remember was a Bedford with a Duple Vega body, the one where the radiator grill resembled a butterfly. There was off cause Jeffcocks, Hirst and Sweeting, Littlewoods (again became two companies) similar liveries, only the initials told the difference between the two company's. There were other companys also but they have slipped the memory for the time being. Carnells came along later with some flashy equipment but I think they went to the wall. Hagues had some nice tackle but gave up touring and stuck to road haulage.

Are there any photo,s around of S.U.T coaches Thanks.
I found these pics, There are lots of other bus companys in the index too. Including some mainline and syt :)


http://thebusgalleryarchive.fotopic.net/c1605513.html

I remember going on holiday as a child to the Isle of Wight with SUT and our driver was called Ashley, I believe he's sadly passed away now. But my fondest memory was of him dressing up as a Sheik, complete with mask sweeping along the floor and I knew it was him because I recognised his shoes !!

Wonder if any one remembers my dad..Jim Rogerson and his mates who were also drivers for sut Jack Stones and Jimmy Kerr,,,they worked there in the 50/60s....my dad did continental tours and also one of his regular ones was to the isle of skye...he loved it:)

Wasn't there a Geoff/Jeff Cox?

In the late 50's we used to go fishing down to the River Trent and on down into Lincolnshire on Jeffcock's coaches. They used to set off from Lady's Bridge and were taken over by SUT around 1960.

SUT had a Scot called McArthur who drove for them. He lived at Millhouses on Hartington Rd. He did a lot of the seaside resorts including Skeggy in the days when SUT parked up at the rear of the Lumley Hotel.
Somewhere on the net is a list of names the coaches were given i.e. "Gay Cutler", "Gay Blade" and "Gay Owl" and many other "Gays" these coaches were called "Gay Class" and were first put on coaches with Windovers bodies (AEC chassis of course). The Duple bodied "Elizabethan Class" were named after famous explorers and the like, then came the Burlington Seagull bodies with place names i.e. Paris, Montreux etc and almost finally the famous Plaxton Panarama bodys whose names all started "Panarama" and had a second name.

regards
neil memmott

I have just joined this forum - and hope this thread is still live!

I have totally failed to find the Name List for the SUT coaches of the 50s and 60s. I used to see them at Bolton Moor Lane Bus Station whilst Ribble Bus spotting. They were presumably on the (daily?) Summer Only Blackpool service. The above info is the best I've ever seen on this. I have an image off the net - a poor resolution one, though - which shows two Seagull bodied coaches with their names on the front corners, but they are illegible.

Anyone help with the names of specific vehicles, or even have the name listing? Any memories may help.

Does anyone know if the Prestige Series book 'Sheffield United Tours - A Brief History' gives the list of names with corresponding fleet nos.? - if so, I'll buy it!

If anyone wants the above image, I'll email it on.

Also, if anyone recalls any other reason for SUT coaches in Bolton, please reply here.

Regards

Dave Gradwell - Derby

Neil,

I've twice tried to reply to your PM, but neither is in my 'sent' box.
Have you received anything from me, please?

DRG

We used to go to Brid on SUT and remember there was a bloke who seemed to do all the co-ordinating, portly bloke with big sideboards who chain smoked. He looked like Bernard Manning come to think of it. He'd be there at Pond St until the last coach had left and then again at the coach park on Hilderthorpe Road at Bridlington. We used to stop half way at a pub near Holme on Spalding Moor. I don't know what I hated most, the diesel fumes whilst waiting for the stragglers or the cigarette smoke in the bus, you could cut it with a bread knife.

Funny thing about reading this I have just got a sheffield united tours coach of ebay not a real one but a corgi toy it looks like it could be around the the late 40s or 50s.

Once went to Birmingham City with SUT,flat tyre this side of Chesterfield, caoch broke down after Chesterfield,ended up getting there just after kick off,in at the first turnstyle and ended up the terrace,this turned out to be where their boys were! I kept very quiet.

Used 2 go on day trips from the SUT below pond street b4 it was taken over by National travel.
until you got barred for trying to pee out of the sliding window....only joking,see you at warp speed next week.

Wonder if any one remembers my dad..Jim Rogerson and his mates who were also drivers for sut Jack Stones and Jimmy Kerr,,,they worked there in the 50/60s....my dad did continental tours and also one of his regular ones was to the isle of skye...he loved it:)

are you any relation to ian rogerson?lives at wadsley bridge.

I dont personally dont remember your dad, but I certainally know of him. Jack Stones also ran the Lyceum Hotel on Pond Hill next to the old SUT/Kitson garage. Jimmy Kerr is also known to me. He used to do Scottish tours. How about Arnie Wilson, Bert Oxley, Frank Carr, Jack Hancock all who were couriers with the company.

A F Hancock was one of the first Directors of SUT although many individual companys actually made up SUT.
I wonder if "Uncle" Simm was one of the two brothers who also had their own companys running coaches in Sheffield in the fifties and sixties. I can remember E. H. Simm and I think the other was J H Simm but I'm not sure what actually happened to either of these two companies. Around this time were Fantoms Coaches whose garage was in Queens Road where the carwash is now, the last coach they had as I remember was a Bedford with a Duple Vega body, the one where the radiator grill resembled a butterfly. There was off cause Jeffcocks, Hirst and Sweeting, Littlewoods (again became two companies) similar liveries, only the initials told the difference between the two company's. There were other companys also but they have slipped the memory for the time being. Carnells came along later with some flashy equipment but I think they went to the wall. Hagues had some nice tackle but gave up touring and stuck to road haulage.

Littlewoods Tours consisted of two brothers each with their own coaches although they were coloured the same maroon and silver grey
One brother was from up burngreave call Ceil G Littlewood and the other was from brinsworth called Fredrick N Littlewood.
All ther coaches had trumpets on and would play " A hunting we wiil GO "
they used to run an overnight service to Torquay setting off from the carpark where they later built the students Union for Hallam

Any one remebere them the brothers used to actually drive the coachs in the 50's

My neighbour Colin Parsons (RIP) was a driver for SUT for years. In the summer he was driving on the Continent (before most people went abroad for holidays) Every Saturday in the winter he was the driver for the Wednesday coach. As a young boy I used to listen to his travel tales.

Regarding uncle Sim. One could have been Eric.H.Sim who as you say was based at Queens garage at Queens Road or John.H.Sim who was based on Bocking Lane with his garage at one time being on Shalesmoor. He also traded as Bradway coaches. There was also a Billy Sim who worked at SUT and Percy Sim. I personnaly think that uncle Sim would have been Sim Rieuwerts, a dutchman who was a courier at SUT of long standing.
E. Sim was taken over by Carnell in 1975-Carnell himself ceased trading in 1986. Ron Hague coaches was taken over by Gordons of Rotherham.Cecil Littlewood was taken over by Skills of Nottingham in December 1983. Cecil had started in buisness coaching in 1947 when he acquired the buisness of Beckett. SUT was made up of 16 companies before they themselves became part of National travel North East in the 1970's.They had garages at Charlotte Road which was the main one and head office, the old Kitson garage at 21 Pond Hill (just opposite the old rent place), Balaclava Road (Jeffcoks), Holme Lane(Hirst and Sweeting), Bradwell(Pashleys) and Langsett Road (Whitelys). Incidently, Littlewoods livery was Plum and Silver.

I dont personally dont remember your dad, but I certainally know of him. Jack Stones also ran the Lyceum Hotel on Pond Hill next to the old SUT/Kitson garage. Jimmy Kerr is also known to me. He used to do Scottish tours. How about Arnie Wilson, Bert Oxley, Frank Carr, Jack Hancock all who were couriers with the company.

Hi there the only name i know from those is Jack Hancock and he is still alive and kicking...Jimmy Kerr used to come to his sunday dinner when my parents owned the Lycum Hotel on Langsett Rd...and Jack Stones was one of my dads best mates..he and his wife mary were always at ours :)just a thought ..can you remember Mary Justice ??she worked in the sheffield office ..come to think of it not sure if she would have been called Justice then she mite have still had her maiden name..an i cant think of that of hand

Hello I am not sure if my mam cleaned there at night I know she worked at law bros for ages again on nights I will ask her in the morning her name was sheila

I dont personally dont remember your dad, but I certainally know of him. Jack Stones also ran the Lyceum Hotel on Pond Hill next to the old SUT/Kitson garage. Jimmy Kerr is also known to me. He used to do Scottish tours. How about Arnie Wilson, Bert Oxley, Frank Carr, Jack Hancock all who were couriers with the company.

I have just read a piece in here about the history of the SUT. In one piece it refers to the 1st Montreaux Coach Rally. My late father Walter Fothergill was the driver who of the coach that was judged the best coach in the rally. My father toured Switzerland and the French Riviera with the SUT during the late 40s/50s. Im almost certain Frank Carr was there at the same time. Another name I remember was a Mr Goodfellow (think he was a manager)

Hi there- Walt Fothergillis known to me, I believe he started driving at SUT around 1947. I imagine he would have been in his early thirties then. Ben Goodfellow was the General Manager at SUT from 1949 until 1967. Frank Carr BEM was a courier with the company having started with A F Hancock who later became part of SUT. He put in over fifty years service with the company.. Incidentally, Aaron Frost Hancock was originally a provisions merchant from Bamford owning many shops in Derbyshire. He later diversified into coaching and bus work before becoming part of SUT in 1935. However, he was nothing at all to do with Hancock & Lant of Ladys Bridge in Sheffield.

Hi DaveGradwell there is list on what your after.Sheffield United Tours:Bus Fleet List 1935-1974 there are 11 pages in all.The Corgi bus I got is fleet no 18-19 I hope it helps Alan

Does anyone remember George Griffiths, he drove continental coaches for SUT in the 1960's

Thanks Alan52 - the pity of Peter Gould's otherwise excellent list (easily 'googled' for anybody interested - Peter Gould SUT Fleet List) is that he has not included the names. That is what I am trying to comprehensively compile now - with the invaluable help of others.
If anybody recalls any specific names - and ideally the reg.no. or fleet no. that goes with it - it just may help our cause. There are just a few gaps left to fill. DRG

We've got some old film of SUT - we'll have to dig it out!

If you do manage to find the film I would be very interested to hear about it, and perhaps buy a copy from you if thats ok ?

Downsunder, yes I know of George Griffiths. A well respected driver/courier at SUT. How long did he work there though cos I have no idea?

When I was a kid in the 50s we used to go on day trip[s to Skeggie, Brid, Clee, etc. on SUT coaches. But if my memory serves me correctly, we used to line up in the a.m. on Snig Hill, not Pond Street. Ring any bells anyone or is my memory playing tricks on me?:huh:

I would be interested in that film too.

When I was a kid in the 50s we used to go on day trip[s to Skeggie, Brid, Clee, etc. on SUT coaches. But if my memory serves me correctly, we used to line up in the a.m. on Snig Hill, not Pond Street. Ring any bells anyone or is my memory playing tricks on me?:huh:

I don't remember Snig Hill but before SUT went into Pond Street we always caught the coach in Union St. , where they had a booking office. I suppose it's always possible that different destinations had different departure points i.e. East Coast from Union St., West Coast from Snig Hill etc. , but this is only a suggestion.

My dad Harold(Chalky)White drove for SUT 50's 60's 70's

I don't remember Snig Hill but before SUT went into Pond Street we always caught the coach in Union St. , where they had a booking office. I suppose it's always possible that different destinations had different departure points i.e. East Coast from Union St., West Coast from Snig Hill etc. , but this is only a suggestion.

Actually I was'nt too far off the mark regarding departure points as I now remember SUT having booking offices in Pond Hill, Union St, Waingate and Attercliffe Road and I can now certainly remember coaches leaving from Waingate and I think it probable that you remember this and not Snig Hill just around the corner.

Actually I was'nt too far off the mark regarding departure points as I now remember SUT having booking offices in Pond Hill, Union St, Waingate and Attercliffe Road and I can now certainly remember coaches leaving from Waingate and I think it probable that you remember this and not Snig Hill just around the corner.

That must be right, neil. Waingate. So close by.

They also used castlegate and I think they used bridge street on sunday mornings which is across from snig hill

Excursions used to set off from Union Street,Waingate, Church Street in Attercliffe and King Street . Pond Street was used mostly for excursions and express. The Palace theatre yard was also used for tours departures from the mid thirties until the fifties. Later tours would depart from the old Kitson garage/office at No21 Pond Hill. Tours also used the bottom platform in Pond Street itself but mostly the main office and garage at Charlotte Road being for this purpose. Castlegate was used as a drop off point for returning excursions and the like from such places as Blackpool. Castlegate was also used for departures by SUT, Fantoms, Jeffcocks etc.

13 x 1960/70's Coach Photos Sheffield United Tours
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Does anyone remember George Griffiths, he drove continental coaches for SUT in the 1960's

Hi, I have found a picture of George Griffiths together with Jack Stones in front of an SUT coach bound for Austria in 1952/53.

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Hi, I have found a picture of George Griffiths together with Jack Stones in front of an SUT coach bound for Austria in 1952/53.

hi sut man im not sure how long george griffiths worked at sut I was brought up with his daughter and we use to go on some of the trips that he did I was about the age of 8 to 10 his daughters name was margaret his wifes name was dorothy they had another son called Micheal i dont know if thats too much info for you or if you really want to know.:huh:
i think the best trip i can remember was when we went to Spain because George knew people so we could go off the beaten track so to speak like when we went to the bull fights we met the matadors and the pickadors and the rest and when we went to france we met a bloke who owned a perfume shop and got a load of free bottles of perfume so thanks to george I had good times and went to a lot of different places abroad .
i would be interested in the photo you have of him and do you know whether hes still living. Thank you

Reference the Ebay photos for sale mentioned above - the images have been scanned to Ebay and there are three lots, so there are about 30 freely downloadable images of coaches from the 50s to the 70s, at quite reasonable resolution, but obviously not as good as the actual prints on offer - hence the price of the pukka thing. There are several named coaches included in the images for the likes of myself to be interested in and the download quality will do for my purposes. It would be nice to think a genuine SUT person would be interested enough to purchase them - and possibly sell on copies through this forum to help recoup the cost.

hi sut man im not sure how long george griffiths worked at sut I was brought up with his daughter and we use to go on some of the trips that he did I was about the age of 8 to 10 his daughters name was margaret his wifes name was dorothy they had another son called Micheal i dont know if thats too much info for you or if you really want to know.:huh:
i think the best trip i can remember was when we went to Spain because George knew people so we could go off the beaten track so to speak like when we went to the bull fights we met the matadors and the pickadors and the rest and when we went to france we met a bloke who owned a perfume shop and got a load of free bottles of perfume so thanks to george I had good times and went to a lot of different places abroad .
i would be interested in the photo you have of him and do you know whether hes still living. Thank you

Downsunder, I have tried to post this photo onto the Forum but so far, have had no success. I will keep trying though !

[http://gallery.myff.org/gallery/765987/Sheffield+Forum+002.jpg][img]http://gallery.myff.org/gallery/765987/Sheffield+Forum+002.jpg

Hopefully this should work

I remember Bernard Sellars working as a regulator for sheffield transport in fitzalan sqare.I got made up to regulator from a driver in 1972 and took over from Bernard when he retired.He showed me the ropes.

Hi gordon3, yep, that was my grandad

Hi gordon3, yep, that was my grandad

http://s787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/fourchairs/

http://s787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/fourchairs/

Brilliant photo of Bernard Sellers. Suggest this was the 1958 tour to Torquay & Ilfracombe which cost £14, 14s for 7 days. The coach was named "Copenhagen".

Brilliant photo of Bernard Sellers. Suggest this was the 1958 tour to Torquay & Ilfracombe which cost £14, 14s for 7 days. The coach was named "Copenhagen".

looks like a Burlingham seagull bodied coach if i'm not mistaken?

Brilliant photo of Bernard Sellers. Suggest this was the 1958 tour to Torquay & Ilfracombe which cost £14, 14s for 7 days. The coach was named "Copenhagen".

Hi SUT man i have message in another thread asking about the coaches used to take kids to the seaside from working mens clubs.I used to go and remember the coaches pulling up outside idsworth road club ..and they were gleaming ..and had names like _Dutchess of York etc and were in a purple livery i think? did these belong to SUT?
Regards

Hi SUT man i have message in another thread asking about the coaches used to take kids to the seaside from working mens clubs.I used to go and remember the coaches pulling up outside idsworth road club ..and they were gleaming ..and had names like _Dutchess of York etc and were in a purple livery i think? did these belong to SUT?
Regards

Dont know what era we are speaking about here, was this in the fifties or sixties? Its a bit difficult trying to remember some of the older liveries of some of the coach companies but it definately wasn't SUT with names like you mention. I think it might have been Littlewoods coaches as they were in a bergundy and silver livery with names like Duchess of Torquay, Duchess of Newquay etc. Hope this is of some help.

looks like a Burlingham seagull bodied coach if i'm not mistaken?

Hi andyrad29, Yes this was a Burlingham Seagull bodied AEC Reliance new in 1956. Fantastic machines although I personally preferred the 1957 deliveries the most.

thanx for that SUTman, I,ve another photo that I found that my grandad had - don't know who it is but I'll post it and you might can help

my dad used to drive for s.u.t or suttie as he called is name was eric ward then he went on to work for j.o andrews when they were down attercliff for a guy called mick sanagar

my dad used to drive for s.u.t or suttie as he called is name was eric ward then he went on to work for j.o andrews when they were down attercliff for a guy called mick sanagar

My dad worked at Andrews when they ran buses!, he and I both knew Mick who was a great character but is now sadly not with us

Another picture which was my grandads (Bernard Sellers), but no idea who they are - may be someone on here recognises them
http://s787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/fourchairs/?action=view&current=Unknownsut.jpg

Another picture which was my grandads (Bernard Sellers), but no idea who they are - may be someone on here recognises them
http://s787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/fourchairs/?action=view&current=Unknownsut.jpg

dont know the people but can appreciate the coach! look at the shine on it!

another Burlingham Seagull AEC i think

Hi Fourchairs, great photo and yes it is a Burlingham Seagull bodied AEC Reliance which was new in 1957. It had the coachname of "Innsbruck" and was regd as YWA 268. The tour was Lands End I believe and this was in 1959. The other courier on the tour was Arthur Jones. Incidentally, the tour was of 7 days and cost £18.9s.0d (or £18.45p). The coach was fitted with Webasto air conditioning.

Wow - thats amazing info SUTman - thank you

some good pics on here

http://regionalbusphotosyork.fotopic.net/c1899028.html

Hi Fourchairs, great photo and yes it is a Burlingham Seagull bodied AEC Reliance which was new in 1957. It had the coachname of "Innsbruck" and was regd as YWA 268. The tour was Lands End I believe and this was in 1959. The other courier on the tour was Arthur Jones. Incidentally, the tour was of 7 days and cost £18.9s.0d (or £18.45p). The coach was fitted with Webasto air conditioning.

Hi sutman did you know Jim Rogerson Jack Stones or Jimmy Kerr ....I ask cos Jim Rogerson was my dad in fact the guy with just his back view in that photo could be him ,but I cant remember him having that much hair lol

Wasn't it on Charlotte Road, just across from Olive Grove, my mates dad a Godfrey Taylor worked in the office?

A friend of my Aunt's used to work in the office there she was called catherine Pharhe, not sure of the spelling.

Hi sutman did you know Jim Rogerson Jack Stones or Jimmy Kerr ....I ask cos Jim Rogerson was my dad in fact the guy with just his back view in that photo could be him ,but I cant remember him having that much hair lol

HI Kazads53, It could well be your dad Jim Rogerson with his back to the camera. All I can say, its definately not Jimmy Kerr or Jack Stones

A friend of my Aunt's used to work in the office there she was called catherine Pharhe, not sure of the spelling.

Hi Aries22, Cath Fahy was the general manager (Ben Goodfellow) secretary and later to his replacement (Ron Burgin) and was stationed at the head office at Charlotte Road.

some good pics on here

http://regionalbusphotosyork.fotopic.net/c1899028.html

Cheers Andy some great photos there.

Hi Aries22, Cath Fahy was the general manager (Ben Goodfellow) secretary and later to his replacement (Ron Burgin) and was stationed at the head office at Charlotte Road.

Thanks for that info SUTman