View Full Version : Cremated ashes + placing them in a grave yard?


blossom2
10-03-2012, 14:29
Hi all, Recently my nan passed away:( we had her cremated at grenoside but her parents are buried at city road cemetary... we are basically wanting to know if theres any laws or can's and can'ts you can do with the ashes... we have wanting to shallow bury then under the soil of my great grandparents grave and then have a plaque/gravestone as one has never been bought for that grave.. if anyone knows anything please let me know:) xx

ECCOnoob
10-03-2012, 15:15
Officially and legally I beleive you are supposed to ask permission from the council and pay a fee.

Unofficially I would say, be subtle, do it off peak and just sneak in and do it.

We did with some my father's ashes on his parents grave.

funeral.fd
10-03-2012, 16:53
Hi, I'm a funeral director and can give you some advice...best thing to do is to contact city road crematorium office on 2396068 explain what you want to do and they will arrange for your ashes to be scattered or intered ! It's best to do it legally ! Theirs a chargevof I think 42 to do it, but at lest you know it's all in order. And then you can organise a plaque with them ! If you do it underhandedly and they findvout you won't get your plaque put up unlessvyou pay the scattering fee ! so like I said your better off contacting them...cheers

Oldtrout
10-03-2012, 17:51
My mum recently enquired about how to get my dad's ashes put into an existing family grave. I can't remember specific costs or details, but it was something like 45 to have the ashes interred, and 120 if you wanted to be there when it was done!! I presume if you pay the lesser fee, they just do it when they have some 'spare time'. If they have to arrange a specific time when it is convenient to you it must cost them more for some reason.

Personally, I can't understand anyone NOT wanting to be there, not only out of respect, but also to check that they've actually done it!!

saxon51
10-03-2012, 18:05
Hi, I'm a funeral director and can give you some advice...best thing to do is to contact city road crematorium office on 2396068 explain what you want to do and they will arrange for your ashes to be scattered or intered ! It's best to do it legally ! Theirs a chargevof I think 42 to do it, but at lest you know it's all in order. And then you can organise a plaque with them ! If you do it underhandedly and they findvout you won't get your plaque put up unlessvyou pay the scattering fee ! so like I said your better off contacting them...cheers
My mum recently enquired about how to get my dad's ashes put into an existing family grave. I can't remember specific costs or details, but it was something like 45 to have the ashes interred, and 120 if you wanted to be there when it was done!! I presume if you pay the lesser fee, they just do it when they have some 'spare time'. If they have to arrange a specific time when it is convenient to you it must cost them more for some reason.

Personally, I can't understand anyone NOT wanting to be there, not only out of respect, but also to check that they've actually done it!!

My bolds.

So some clowns are getting rich on the back of the bereaved effectively emptying an ashtray on a grave. How can ashes placed in a shallow grave incur costs to the council? :( One reason why I want my corpse disposing of in the cheapest way possible ...... landfill!!

Oldtrout
10-03-2012, 18:41
Well, until my mum decides what to do, my dad is quietly sitting in his 'ashtray' on the dressing table! The ashes are quite heavy actually, and there are far more than you might imagine (I'm not justifying the interment charges by the way)

We might just do what we did with my uncle ... scatter his ashes up on Burbage Moor, and then nip down the hill to the Scotsmans Pack for lunch.

nexusdee
10-03-2012, 19:02
I think u also need the permission of the grave owner

tara
10-03-2012, 19:16
We had My mums ashes intered at Ecclesfield via the funeral directors who sorted it out . It cost my Dad 300 to have the ashes intered and we were told we would recieve some deed plot papers or something, but never recieved any. We werent told about ordering plaques through them.
I wish Id never had her ashes buried there, we never recieved any papers with plot number on we just jotted the number down that the man from the council or somewhere gave to us on that day.

samsmum
10-03-2012, 19:31
we had my mums ashes scattered after the cremation on the plot where her mother is buried, and are in the process (its nearly 4 years since she died) of getting a small memorial plaque placed - its about 150 including placing it.
when we were arranging mums funeral, the fd asked us what we wanted to do with the ashes - having them interred was an option but she had stated in her will she wanted them scattering on her mothers plot in shiregreen.

spiritangel1
10-03-2012, 20:01
I had my dads,mums,n nanas ashes all interred in wisewood with a proper gravestone because thats what they wanted,dad died first but i cant remember how much it cost to put others in as we had the headstone engraved as well with mums name on

iansheff
10-03-2012, 20:16
My bolds.

So some clowns are getting rich on the back of the bereaved effectively emptying an ashtray on a grave. How can ashes placed in a shallow grave incur costs to the council? :( One reason why I want my corpse disposing of in the cheapest way possible ...... landfill!!

Thats cheap, I think I was quoted about 200 if you want to renew a plaque after 25 years and that was about 6 years ago. Take a look at the prices on here. https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/caresupport/bereavement/cremation/feescharges.html
The price has come down but so has the lease time, it is now only 15 years.

Twiglet
10-03-2012, 20:22
If you are wanting them scattered, they will normally remove a layer of turf before scattering them underneath and then relaying it which is why it costs.

Interring ashes in an urn is essentially a small burial with the associated paperwork hence the higher cost.

Either option will incur a charge but I would strongly advise against trying to 'DIY' as you could get yourself in some trouble for 'interfering' with the existing burial.

Memorial placement is an extra issue and seems to be very expensive for anything you intend to be long term - I've been looking into the options for a family member of my own :(

orbs
10-03-2012, 20:52
My mums ashes were buried with her parents, when dad died just 4 years later his ashes were to go in the same plot in doing so the grave diggers struck mums urn and broke it, her ashes were just left in the soil.

maxwell1945
10-03-2012, 21:18
As said in previous posts,just go and put the ashes into the soil on the grave.Who is going to know.I cannot see how the cemetry can justify a charge for this simple act of burying ashes.Everything regarding some ones death seems to cost a lot of money to the bereaved from placing an obiturary in the local press to the funeral directors.

Twiglet
10-03-2012, 22:00
As said in previous posts,just go and put the ashes into the soil on the grave.Who is going to know.I cannot see how the cemetry can justify a charge for this simple act of burying ashes.Everything regarding some ones death seems to cost a lot of money to the bereaved from placing an obiturary in the local press to the funeral directors.

Someone has to be employed to do the job and they have to be paid somehow. I agree that the charges are extremely steep but there isn't really an alternative.

There are 2 to 3 kilos of ashes - someone will notice if these are scattered onto an existing grave. They'll also notice if they see you digging up the surface to scatter them underneath.