i have a 4yr old staffie and he is a real pain he goes out to the toilet be as soon as we put him in his cage if we go out or to bed he wee's and poos in there we cannot let him run around as he destroys everything and chews ! he is not a loyal dog we have had him from 8 weeks and really dont no what to do now ?

Any advise please we would be very great full ! he is driving me crazy i have never considered rehoming an animal before as you all may no we do alot in the way of rescue but dont no what to do with him.

he also has a skin condition thats been treated by the vet they did skin scrape and said it was a thing passed from his perants this keeps coming back they said it would when he got stressed and to be honest he is always winning

please help :confused::help::help::help::help::help::help:

4 years are you joking? He needed training when he was young you seem to think he can teach himself? Take him for a walk. Does he have fenced off garden to run about in? Sounds like he's bored when he chews and stressed to boot

yes he has a 70ft garden to run about in yes its fenced off i do every thing with him i take him for walks never wee's or poos on walks goes in garden when we get hom .i am not a lazy dog owner i just dont no what to do with him

not asking for negativity here asking for advice if you dont have any please dont comment

i have a 4yr old staffie and he is a real pain he goes out to the toilet be as soon as we put him in his cage if we go out or to bed he wee's and poos in there we cannot let him run around as he destroys everything and chews ! he is not a loyal dog we have had him from 8 weeks and really dont no what to do now ?

Any advise please we would be very great full ! he is driving me crazy i have never considered rehoming an animal before as you all may no we do alot in the way of rescue but dont no what to do with him.

he also has a skin condition thats been treated by the vet they did skin scrape and said it was a thing passed from his perants this keeps coming back they said it would when he got stressed and to be honest he is always winning

please help :confused::help::help::help::help::help::help:


Hello,
As for the defecating his own "cage" that is some thing your dog has learned over time.
You really need to go back to basics with him on this issue.

You say you can't allow him to run around without destroying everything... This is down to boredom. He needs physical as well as mental stimulation.

Also having a 70ft garden isn't exercise. Go into your garden with him have a game of fetch.

An average staffy needs a minimum of 2-3 hours of exercise per day, (not in all in one go).

Have you thought of getting some basic agility equipment or going to a local club? As well as getting physical exercise he is getting mental stimulation.

Kong toys are good too for down time at home, stuff them with yummy goodies. If you freeze them they take longer to eat.

Saying he is not loyal... a dog only knows what you teach him.

Please don't think i'm "having ago" I'm not.

Hi

What have you done to train him so far?
Do you use the cage as a method of punishment at all?
How much exercise does he get a day?
Is he the only dog you have?

Just from what you have said, it sounds to me like he is suffering from anxiety and/or stress. Do you remember when he started to behave like this and what changes to his routine was at that time maybe?

I would start by getting him a fresh bone from the butchers every week. This will allow him to chew to his hearts content and will keep him occupied for a few hours. My three love their bones and stand at the door wanting to go out just so they can chew their bones. They do this all day long for a few days. They bury them and dig up their old bones too lol.

Do you have a set routine for him? My dogs were a pain when I left PAHome to set up Hardwick Hounds and I was home all day unlike ever before. They couldn't settle outside and all three stood at the back door all day waiting for me to let them in. I think this was because, in the past, i used to let them in as soon as I came home from work so they were only ever outside when we weren't home. So when I wasn't going out to work everyday for a while, they got confused bless em. I just left them until they got used to me being in the house and relaxed on the garden, then I let them in.

Could you leave your dog outside whilst your out, if you're not going to be out too long? Then you don't have to worry about him chewing your house up and he's not facing the cage which seems to be the cause of his anxiety. My dogs are happy outside for long hours but they're used to it and have a 12ft kennel to go in.

Good luck!!

Denlin, the dog is 4 years old. The OP has only had the dog for 8 weeks.

Denlin, the dog is 4 years old. The OP has only had the dog for 8 weeks.

I was unsure because the OP says 'from' 8 weeks so it could mean from 8 weeks of age. This is what I assumed too as that's the common age to get a pup.

Please clarify OP :)

it sounds a bit like separation anxiety to me
June my basset did the same sort of thing
what you will have to do on the pooing &
weeing side of things is the minute he dose
his mess out side whether its in the garden
or on walks is really go to town on fussing him
let him know its good to mess out side
if he goes in the crate as hard as it is don't tell
him off just remove his bedding & put some clean in
if like June did he goes strait away on the clean bedding
just very firmly tell him no but not enough to scare him
a dog with separation anxiety is very stressful for the owner
it was for us we ended up getting another basset for June
witch help her so much she only has it a little now but will
still pee on the floor if left in a room on her own
you just have to find that happy medium with them & they do
come round try buying some Kong toys that you stuff with food
or balls that you can put treats in June loves these it takes her
mind off her being stressed hope this helps
& also please , please , please put pictures up of him he sounds
like a little tyrant but lovely :hihi:

I agree with Stafford's comments. My dogs have a large garden and apart from using it to bury bones and sunbathe in, they prefer to go in their kennel. But as soon as I go outside they start to play and fight with eachother.

Ido think joining an agility club would be good if you can commit to that. MY cocker would be great at it but me and my hubby work weekends so we could never make it to each session.

I think the Kong toys are expensive and my dogs don't like them either but there are similar toys to Kongs you just have to find which suits yours.

Oh, I see. I totally missed the 'from'. My apologies. I thought the OP said they'd had the dog for 8 weeks.

Also having a 70ft garden isn't exercise. Go into your garden with him have a game of fetch.

That is so true.
My dog will not usually toilet in the garden, and very rarely uses it for fun and games unless we try to initiate anything.

So our garden certainly isn't any form of exercise for our dog.
And it's the same with all dogs. Even those that run around a bit in it - Cesar Millan said a garden is like chucky cheese for dogs, but it is not 'work' for the dog like a good, structured walk is. That's what dogs need.

Have you done any training at all with him? Obedience?

i have had him from 8 weeks he was a rescue that we took from a druggie who had stabbed him he still bears the scar .

he only started going in the cage when i got up one morning to he had chewed my kitchen door frame its not a punishment .its just for at night or if i pop out i dont go out for long lengths of time someone is normaly in and he has a bed in the dinning room that he goes in or he can sit in here nr the fire .

he does have a run out side and my children and i both play with him in the garden

i will def try the kong bone with him .i normaly get him a rosted bone he loves that !

yes he is my only dog ( i have cats) aswell

i dont have a routine for him no but never have ?

thank you both for the advice i will try some if not all of the tactics
He is a big softie its just this pooing and weeing i am struggling with

Thank you again

Oh, I see. I totally missed the 'from'. My apologies. I thought the OP said they'd had the dog for 8 weeks.

It is confusing. I did have a think about it cos 4 years is a long time to cope with an unruly dog, unless it hasn't been unruly until recently.

it sounds a bit like separation anxiety to me
June my basset did the same sort of thing
what you will have to do on the pooing &
weeing side of things is the minute he dose
his mess out side whether its in the garden
or on walks is really go to town on fussing him
let him know its good to mess out side
if he goes in the crate as hard as it is don't tell
him off just remove his bedding & put some clean in
if like June did he goes strait away on the clean bedding
just very firmly tell him no but not enough to scare him
a dog with separation anxiety is very stressful for the owner
it was for us we ended up getting another basset for June
witch help her so much she only has it a little now but will
still pee on the floor if left in a room on her own
you just have to find that happy medium with them & they do
come round try buying some Kong toys that you stuff with food
or balls that you can put treats in June loves these it takes her
mind off her being stressed hope this helps
& also please , please , please put pictures up of him he sounds
like a little tyrant but lovely :hihi:

i will pop some pics on maybe it is separation never thought of that :rolleyes: he likes to dive down my daughters slide lol

aw what a poor thing! good on you for rescuing a dog that had been through that.

i will pop some pics on maybe it is separation never thought of that :rolleyes: he likes to dive down my daughters slide lol

:clap::clap::clap:
look forward to them
i must admit i thought you said you had for 8 week
booming eyes playing tricks on me again :hihi: :hihi:

hi i have 2 staffies ,one is lazy and the other drives me crazy ,10 &11 years old ,the ten year old thinks hes 2 he goes on &on &on ,i take him for big walks ,it doesnt stop him ,i take him a short walk same thing ,i feel for you with your dog ,try to keep going on your garden with him ,him might go to the toilet,throw him some balls ,to tire him out ,then you never know ,my little nightmare does when hes tired out :)

i cannot get a link on here i will keep trying or will link to a facebook photo x

Denlin, the dog is 4 years old. The OP has only had the dog for 8 weeks.

OP said they'd had it from 8 weeks not FOR 8 weeks so basically they have the issue go on for 4 years and then come on here asking for help:huh::huh:

Doncaster - this is hard - and its never going to be easy. I believe that sometimes, this is why so many dogs end up being passed around and around, because they are really so hard to cope with - and to live with in a normal life.
We give them so much, we ask so little, and yet still they just can't calm down.

I know you try and have tried with him - but things are obviously still not right for all of you.

I would pick up on 2 things here

Firstly - this dog is bored - he has way too much energy. He needs 100% more lead work and walking - not playing - but fast lead walking. I know this isn't easy to do - with children around, and working - but that to me is the basic problem. He's like a 10 year old boy cooped up in a block of flats - he is fit, well fed, nice and warm and raring to go - you are his assault course - the house is his play ground.

I think his toileting in his bed is definately down to stress. He is going in there, for you to get some peace and quiet - but for him - he's too stressed to be crated.

So, he needs the burn off.
Use it as either your's or your partners relaxation time. It will do you 2 both good also to get out of the house and just walk. Once you get into the groove - set yourself a timewatch of say a minimum of 45 mininutes morning and night - and build it up. I know not easy - but its the best way forward.
Good luck

So, he needs the burn off.
Use it as either your's or your partners relaxation time. It will do you 2 both good also to get out of the house and just walk. Once you get into the groove - set yourself a timewatch of say a minimum of 45 mininutes morning and night - and build it up. I know not easy - but its the best way forward.
Good luck

I think that is great advice. A tired dog is generally a happy one! We both work a 55 hour week (some of it from home) but still manage to get the dog a good 2 hour walk a day and spend 30 minutes faffing around on basic training/ tricks. On fridays he gets 3 hours on the off chance we go out in the evening (we pay for a dog walker for two hours) so we get an afternoon off dog walking and just have to do the early morning walk, it's our treat!

He is a large bull breed cross so does not have quite as much energy as some other breeds. However when we first got him out of rescue kennels he was like a coiled spring and moved at 4 times the speed he does now!

Maybe try it for a month or two and see if it has an effect? I'm a bit of an excerise freak so maybe make it into ' your time' so take up running or cycling (great for tiring them out!) Then it is improving your fitness and health and the dog's well being? If the kids are old enough tey always love a bike ride too!