Hi there

I'm doing an assignment looking at the origins of street names in Sheffield City Centre.

Please feel free to post any information you might have....from the factual origins of street names - to the obscure and 'mythical' origins of street names.

Much appricated

Dave

Peter Harvey (of the Sheffield Star) published a book about the origins of Sheffield Street Names. I think I've seen copies on sale in the Sheffield Shop on Surry Street or in the gift shop in the Millennium Galleries.

I agree Peter Harveys book is well worth the read . I understand he has just published another one on South Yorkshire street names but the Sheffiled one is very, very good:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

St Aidan's Road, Close, etc., in Norfolk Park were named after the nearby City Road church of the same name.

Delf Street in Lowfield was probably named after a route to a quarry, that has long since vanished.

There are a number of street names associated with the late Duke of Norfolk, notably the one rarely pronounced correctly Arundel Gate. Also Norfolk Row, Granville Road, Herries Road, Norfolk Park, Fitzalan Square and Howard Street et al.

How do you pronounce Arundel?

I'd say a-RUN-dl...is that wrong?

Southerners pronounce it (wrongly) arunDEL, with the emphasis on the del.But then, they would wouldn't they.
price

Dorothy, Garry and Lennox roads in Hillsborough were named after a local landowners kids i think.

Arun-dl, like the castle by the cricket ground of that name in Sussex by the Duke's estate.

I wounder how Spittal Hill got it's name? :gag:

Broughton Lane was named after the highwayman Spence Broughton.

From the book Sheffield Curiosities.

I wounder how Spittal Hill got it's name? :gag:

Not from what you're thinking as far as I know, and this could be a myth but I vague remember asking my grandma that when I was a kid. She thought it was an abbreviation of 'hospital' because there used to be a hospital there back in the 1800 and somethings or at least that's what I remember her reply being (she was born 1896).

We used to live on Pisgah House Road in Broomhill - Pisgah was supposedly the mount from which Noah got the olive branch - or some thing like.

I wounder how Spittal Hill got it's name? :gag:

It's actually Spital Hill and I guess you were thinking of spittle for it to be of curiosity?

Not from what you're thinking as far as I know, and this could be a myth but I vague remember asking my grandma that when I was a kid. She thought it was an abbreviation of 'hospital' because there used to be a hospital there back in the 1800 and somethings or at least that's what I remember her reply being (she was born 1896).

That is indeed true Spital is an abbreviation of hospital. As well as Spital Hill, theres Spital Lane, Spital Street and Spitalfields (hospital fields).

:rolleyes: Wostenholm rd, was named after a very famous master cutler in sheffield called George Wostenholm,and apparently,owned loads of land around Nether Edge.
Mary Rundel was another big land owner in the area,hence 'Rundel' road.:)

Southerners pronounce it (wrongly) arunDEL, with the emphasis on the del.But then, they would wouldn't they.
price

im from leeds and am as proud and prejudiced as the next yorkshireman...but am bewildered by this obsession with the south which ive noticed on this board.bloody hell it creeps into threads with absolutely no connection with the south.you wouldnt have it to this extent in leeds or manchester and its just embarrassing.weve got enough london in the media without putting it in every post as well.

I supose the funiest was letsbe avenue next to thte police suport building at the air port:D :D :D

how do people say Owlerton? I've always pronounced it O - lerton but have heard others say OWLerton. I know SWFC's nickname comes from the OWL part of the name

I wounder how Spittal Hill got it's name? :gag:

SPITAL HILL is just a corruption of hoSPITAL Hill, its just as simple as that. SNIG HILL got its name from metal wedges put under Waggon and Cart wheels when they were in a stationary position and the SNIGS stopped the vehicles running away.

SPITAL HILL is just a corruption of hoSPITAL Hill, its just as simple as that. SNIG HILL got its name from metal wedges put under Waggon and Cart wheels when they were in a stationary position and the SNIGS stopped the vehicles running away.

Is that right about Snig Hill? I always presumed it was from Snig as in Eel.

Where do Barker's Pool and Balm Green originate from? I think they are lovely names.

how do people say Owlerton? I've always pronounced it O - lerton but have heard others say OWLerton. I know SWFC's nickname comes from the OWL part of the name

I'm with you on this one. One hears Owl-erton on regional news but the newscasters usually live outside the area. I heard Mal-in Bridge last week, as opposed to May-lin!
Not sure about the Wednesday connection. Their motto is Consilio et animis -by wisdom and courage - and I fancy that, allied to 'wise owls', is the reason?

Barker's pool came from a Mr Barker who had a pond there. Every so often he would open the sluice gate and the water would flow out , down Fargate and wash the streets cleaner.

Pisgah was the name of the mountain from where Moses viewed the promised land.

Thanks for all this information.

I found some great stuff about Spencer Broughton.....turns out that he was hung in a gibbet (a cage) for either 27 or 36 years after his execution!

how do people say Owlerton? I've always pronounced it O - lerton but have heard others say OWLerton. I know SWFC's nickname comes from the OWL part of the name

No, the Owls' nickname, afaik, came from a stuffed bird that a fan used to bring to the games as a mascot, decades ago.

(I go with the "ollerton" pronunciation, btw)

As a follow-on from chairboy's comments on the lands owned by the Dukes of Norfolk, and street names:- Shrewsbury road and Talbot streets were named for them, too. The other big landowner in this area were the Dukes of devonshire, we had a number of streets named after them and their family names (or links), in the West Street/ Glossop Road/ Broomhall area, such as Cavendish, Monmouth, Gloucester, FitzWilliam (and out of the city centre, "chatsworth" naturally). I also believe Rockingham was also a name linked with the Devonshires.

PT

Pisgah was the name of the mountain from where Moses viewed the promised land.

It was also the original name of the large reservoir between School lane and Lydgate lane at Crookes. Later it was changed to Hadfield Dam...perhaps the thought of their drinking water coming from Pisgah Dam put some people off :)

There was also a Pismire in Shiregreen - no biblical connotations that I know of ;)

im from leeds and am as proud and prejudiced as the next yorkshireman...but am bewildered by this obsession with the south which ive noticed on this board.bloody hell it creeps into threads with absolutely no connection with the south.you wouldnt have it to this extent in leeds or manchester and its just embarrassing.weve got enough london in the media without putting it in every post as well.


because of the links with the dukes of devonshire, and the dukes of Norfolk, goldpig, and the fact that these "nobles" owned swathes of land up and down the country, there is, by necessity, links between the North and the South.

The dukes of monmouth, (from whose family name we also get local street names such as marlborough) through their links with the devonshire/ chatsworth branch, have links with sheffield, so we cannot get away from the north-south link.

PT

There are a couple of roads in the Fir Vale area named after southern properties owned I think by the Duke of Norfolk - Horndean and Idsworth.

BTW PT, I think you'll be in a minority with the pronunciation of Owlerton, ;) - I've never heard it other than as in 'bowl' , same with Owler lane in Fir vale.

Owler was local dialect for alder in times long past, a tree generally found growing along the banks of streams and rivers.

Pond Street did have a big pond down there, hence also Pond's Forge. There are loads of streets ending in "-gate" in York and I believe it's a Viking word for street.

I agree with the word "Snig" being about chocks for the cartwheels. I have heard that a couple of times before.

I agree with the word "Snig" being about chocks for the cartwheels. I have heard that a couple of times before.
I've heard this too. :thumbsup:

:rolleyes: Wostenholm rd, was named after a very famous master cutler in sheffield called George Wostenholm,and apparently,owned loads of land around Nether Edge.
Mary Rundel was another big land owner in the area,hence 'Rundel' road.:)

He lived at Kenwood Hall (part of the Marriot Hotel), Kenwood being a district of Washington USA. His works were The Washington Works situated behind the Washington pub at the end of Wellington Street. The facination with the USA was because it was his largest customer, the Bowie Knife comes to mind, supposedly designed by George and Jim Bowie and still manufactured on Garden Street.

He lived at Kenwood Hall (part of the Marriot Hotel), Kenwood being a district of Washington USA. His works were The Washington Works situated behind the Washington pub at the end of Wellington Street. The facination with the USA was because it was his largest customer, the Bowie Knife comes to mind, supposedly designed by George and Jim Bowie and still manufactured on Garden Street.wolstenhomes have a letter from mr.james bowie asking them to make 12 knives to his specification, mr.bowie used to give the knives as presents to prominent people,and as he wanted the best craftmanship he naturally contacted a sheffield knife making company

the first knife james bowie carried was designed by his brother raizen, although it was just a converted butcher,s knife he soon became famous for using it in fights,as his fame spread he decided to have a more sturdy and impressive knife made, his own knife was never found at the alamo although copies of it turn up across the united states now and again

Amid the pastures and orchards of Pittsmoor was once an Orchard St , later changed to Apple St now defunct, but Harvest lane is still there.

right here we go,
church st or church lane as it was, took it's name from the parish church where the cathedral is now.
orchard lane, street from the orchards that occupied the space between church lane and fargate.
high st meaning the main street.
haymarket from the place where hay was sold. originally called bull stake due to bull baiting
market place from the market where goods were bought and sold.
pond st from the ponds that supplied water to a number of mills
trippet lane after the trippet family
angel st from the coaching inn the angel
the streets from norfolk street down to the railway station were all laid out on alsop's fields, the agent of the duke of norfolk a man called vincent eyre named all the streets after the duke's family and possessions so we have norfolk st, howard st, surrey st, arundel st etc... not forgetting himself he called one eyre st.
bank st from the small private bank near the end of the street.
figtree lane from the lane where the figtree grew hence figtree lane.
more later if time allows

Wostenholme Road, Montgomery Road, the Laverdene estate, Osborne Road etc were quite simply the pension funds of the wealthy. Damned site better than mine after Gordon Brown shoved his grubby little hands into it.

There are loads of streets ending in "-gate" in York and I believe it's a Viking word for street.

"gate is indeed from the norse word "gata" meaning "street"
Wain gate, far gate....

(in York there is the delightfully named "whipma-whopma gate"! lol lol lol)

The viking influence is not far away from us, here, in words like "riding" -
we are in the west riding, or "thirding" of Yorkshire (from the divisions of our shire, in the Danelaw) and the word "thorpe"- or "torpa" which is norse for farmstead, eg "jorda's Thorpe" or Jorda's farm, or Hackenthorpe - "Haake's" or "haaken's" thorpe.


I will accept your correction Greybeard on "owlerton". :)
PT

fargate simply means the far way, gate being an old word for way.

snig hill is from either the metal shoes slipped under the wheels or from the eels which lived in the small ponds at the bottom of the hill, these being a delicacy for the townsfolk.

There were some very descriptive names for the tiny alleys that ran between the streets, knock em down alley, furnace hill was referred to as the 'cock tail' which was the name of the public house in the area and the landlords daughter was known as the cock tail lady.
The pickle was the district the first midland railway station at the bottom of spital hill and the twelve 'o' clock inn which stood at the corner of attercliffe rd and saville st.
there were two goose greens, one at highfield and the other at attercliffe,
jansen st was called lamb pool lane, and broomhill street was known as black lamb lane, and many names came from the large houses stood in the vicinity such as : chipping house rd, charnock hall rd, dial house rd, old hall rd, new hall rd, cannon hall rd and so on.

On old maps Bellhouse Road (Firth Park/Shiregreen) was once called Pissmire Hill. Can anyone explain that please?

Can't remember the exact details - it's early and gotta got to work - but the family who used to own most of Cardiff and the castle there and gave it away to the city at the beginning of last century, also used to own a lot of land in this area, hence a lot of the Street names in Sheffield and Rotherham town centre. Might be worth looking into that.

This is absolutly fascinating! I live on Wostenholme Road, never knew it had that much history attatched! Amazing!

Any idea where Langdon Streets name comes from? Moving there in the summer!:D

On old maps Bellhouse Road (Firth Park/Shiregreen) was once called Pissmire Hill. Can anyone explain that please?

Well 'Pismire Hill' on the 1855 map seems to be just a placename at the junction with Windmill lane and Bellhouse road, opposite the Endowed Free School and the cottages which stood on the site of the later CoOp furniture store. [The school building and master's house are still there but you can't see them from Bellhouse road].

All I could ever find for the meaning of pismire was that it was an old dialect term for ant..... so Ant Hill ? :)

If Bellhouse road used to be anything different it was probably Common road, which is how it is labelled from Shirgreen down to Hartley Brook on the 1855 map.

Thanks Greybeard!

We used to live on Pisgah House Road in Broomhill - Pisgah was supposedly the mount from which Noah got the olive branch - or some thing like.
Hi Ilived in broomhill went to broomhill school but cant place pisgah house rd where was it

I supose the funiest was letsbe avenue next to thte police suport building at the air port:D :D :D
If you go any where near the CHANTRY pub call in and give Mick my regards from France, Arthur, he will know who you mearn . Cheers.

Pond Street did have a big pond down there, hence also Pond's Forge. There are loads of streets ending in "-gate" in York and I believe it's a Viking word for street.

I agree with the word "Snig" being about chocks for the cartwheels. I have heard that a couple of times before.
Iseem to remember my father talking about sniggingas being the method of pulling an extra heavy load by snigging an other horse by way of chain to help up a steep hill.

Iseem to remember my father talking about sniggingas being the method of pulling an extra heavy load by snigging an other horse by way of chain to help up a steep hill.

That's very interestin Arthur, I haven't heard the term snigging in that context, but no surprise as it is long out of use :) These days it usually applies to horses being used to extract felled timber with chains.

The horse used to give assistance up a steep hill was known as a 'cock' horse, and there were several 'Cock Hill lanes' and 'Cockshutt lanes' in and around Sheffield, many now lost.

One Cockshutt lane survivor is in Oughtibridge where the sign of the Cock Inn is a horse, which puzzles a few people. It refers of course to the 'Cock Horse' used to help waggons up to Grenoside, Onesacre and Hagg Stones.

I think I disovered one myself (but I'm prepared to stand corrected).

Capel Street at Hillsborough used to be called Montague Street some years ago (I saw it in a book!), and it's right next to Burton Street. I'm presuming they were named after Montague Burton, the owner of the original Burtons store (which was at Hillsborough Corner).

Incidently, and again, I'm not sure how true this is, but the term "The Full Monty" came about from him too. He apparantely had the contracts for the de-mob outfits during the war, and it consisted of trousers, shoes, shirt, jacket, hat, the full monty (after Montague Burton).

Has anyone else heard this?

Southerners pronounce it (wrongly) arunDEL, with the emphasis on the del.But then, they would wouldn't they.
price

Er? i'm a "Southerner" and I pronounce it aRUNdle.

Well I would, wouldn't I? Nice example of your average "friendly" northerner...

How about Archer Road and Archer Lane where arrow heads were made? They had to use ground based chimneys in those days situated on steep hills, apparantly this one ended at the top of Cobnar Road in Woodseats.

They then took the arrow heads by horse and cart to somewhere near Killamarsh for shafting, a business opportunity missed for someone in Sheffield!

Sorry if this has already been posted. I recently heard an old lady say to a miserable child 'what's up wi'thee? You've got a face as long as Norfolk Street!'

I thought - well Norfolk St's only short, but in actual fact it used to extend far longer. I'm not entirely sure how far but I have a feeling it used to be quite a main street. Someone else will tell you better.

I think I disovered one myself (but I'm prepared to stand corrected).

Capel Street at Hillsborough used to be called Montague Street


I think it was called Chapel Street, but there were too many is the city, so it was changed.... but not to upset the residents, only changed the name slightly...they did this to many streets with common names.

fargate simply means the far way, gate being an old word for way.

This is correct, however, as i responded to a previous thread, i think in this case, Fargate was named after a tollgate far away from the main one in the city, to stop people sneekin in...

Sorry if this has already been posted. I recently heard an old lady say to a miserable child 'what's up wi'thee? You've got a face as long as Norfolk Street!'

I thought - well Norfolk St's only short, but in actual fact it used to extend far longer. I'm not entirely sure how far but I have a feeling it used to be quite a main street. Someone else will tell you better.

I stand correction but I think Norfolk Street ran from what is now Furnival Gate to Arundel Gate. I remember one building of old, called 'Tontine Chambers'.

How did Dead Mans Hole Lane get its' name

I think it was called Chapel Street, but there were too many is the city, so it was changed.... but not to upset the residents, only changed the name slightly...they did this to many streets with common names.

The change of name is the only thing I am certain of! It was in a local history book with photographs - "A Hillsborough View". It's just the rest that may be made up! :D

I stand correction but I think Norfolk Street ran from what is now Furnival Gate to Arundel Gate. I remember one building of old, called 'Tontine Chambers'.

it actually ran a little further, whats now 'esperanto place' used the be the end of Norfolk Street before the construction of the dual carr..:D

There were some very descriptive names for the tiny alleys that ran between the streets, knock em down alley, furnace hill was referred to as the 'cock tail' which was the name of the public house in the area and the landlords daughter was known as the cock tail lady.
The pickle was the district the first midland railway station at the bottom of spital hill and the twelve 'o' clock inn which stood at the corner of attercliffe rd and saville st.
there were two goose greens, one at highfield and the other at attercliffe,
jansen st was called lamb pool lane, and broomhill street was known as black lamb lane, and many names came from the large houses stood in the vicinity such as : chipping house rd, charnock hall rd, dial house rd, old hall rd, new hall rd, cannon hall rd and so on.
broomhallst

broomhallst
do you remember the pub named theLambpool

I was told that Sharrard Rd was named after a Dr. and I thought all the Gates

ie Arundel, furival, waingate were the gatehouses of Manor castle.

hazel

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OK, where do the "brooms" originate from? i.e. Broomhill, Broomhall, Broomspring lane etc?

Also, there is the Springfield pub - I assume there was indeed a spring there at some point?

I thought all the Gates
ie Arundel, furival, waingate were the gatehouses of Manor castle.

hazel

no, Arundel, and Furnival were some of the names of the Howard family (the dukes of norfolk, who were variously, norfolk, talbot, shrewsbury, howard, arundel furnival etc) and Wain gate is from wain, or cart, IIRC, (gate being the norse -gata- for street or road.)

OK, where do the "brooms" originate from? i.e. Broomhill, Broomhall, Broomspring lane etc?

Also, there is the Springfield pub - I assume there was indeed a spring there at some point?

the area of Broom hall was named after the Broom Hall. Re the pub, the springfield:- not entirely certain which came first, the pub or the road.. I suspect the road was first.

Far gate.. not so sure about that explanation, i thought it was possibly the limit of the town centre way back in viking times.? the furthest of the gata or streets from the castle which was down by where the market is now.

PT

and Wain gate is from wain, or cart, IIRC, (gate being the norse -gata- for street or road.)
PT

Although Waingate is believed to be a late contrivance. On the 1736 town plan it is shown as Bridge Street. It was probably renamed at the same time the Bull Stake became the Haymarket.

A lost 'gate' is Park Gate which appears on the 1736 plan but on later plans becomes Broad Street.

Hi there

I'm doing an assignment looking at the origins of street names in Sheffield City Centre.

Please feel free to post any information you might have....from the factual origins of street names - to the obscure and 'mythical' origins of street names.

Much appricated

Dave

Hi Dave,

Have lived in Sheffield all of my life but don't know the answer to this one. Looking down Commercial St, on the right near Barclays Bank there is a narrow snicket named Jew Lane. If your research uncovers anything I would be interested.

Jew Lane used to be called Jehu Lane - it was probably named after a man called Jehu living nearby.

The "Brooms" are named after an old field once in this area - Broom Field. Likewise Spring Field. Archer road is also from the old Archer Field

Sharrard Rd was named after Albert Sharrard a partner in cutlery manufacturers Sharrard & Hydes.

Get the Peter Harvey book from WH Smith an intresting read

Why is 'Intake' so called?

sea breaze terrace is a small road just off richmond road with half a dozen terrace houses, apparently a bloke won a load of dosh on a horse race, horse was called sea breaze and he bought the land and built the houses
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Southerners pronounce it (wrongly) arunDEL, with the emphasis on the del.But then, they would wouldn't they.
price

I, too, pronounce it 'Arun-DDDel' - and I'm a southener.

:P


I heard Mal-in Bridge last week, as opposed to May-lin!

Yes - it makes common sense for it to be pronounced 'Maaa-lin', and not the local 'Mayyy-lin'. I enjoy pronouncing that wrongly!

:P

I supose the funiest was letsbe avenue next to thte police suport building at the air port:D :D :D
This can't be true, surely.:hihi: :hihi:

No, the Owls' nickname, afaik, came from a stuffed bird that a fan used to bring to the games as a mascot, decades ago.

(I go with the "ollerton" pronunciation, btw)

As a follow-on from chairboy's comments on the lands owned by the Dukes of Norfolk, and street names:- Shrewsbury road and Talbot streets were named for them, too. The other big landowner in this area were the Dukes of devonshire, we had a number of streets named after them and their family names (or links), in the West Street/ Glossop Road/ Broomhall area, such as Cavendish, Monmouth, Gloucester, FitzWilliam (and out of the city centre, "chatsworth" naturally). I also believe Rockingham was also a name linked with the Devonshires.

PT
Thats rubbish, even if a fan did bring a stuffed owl it was because the wendys play at Owlerton.

Why is 'Intake' so called?
I can't remember the details, but I think 'intakes' have something to do with the mining industry, various 'intakes' come up all over the place.

Anybody got any ideas on the origin of the name Campo Lane? Campo is straight Spanish for country or even field. Henceforth 'country lane' or 'field lane.

a lot of the street and place names up Ecclesall have Scottish origin; Dunkeld road, Balmoral court, Montrose court etc.

Good bump, this is an interesting thread!

Well 'Pismire Hill' on the 1855 map seems to be just a placename at the junction with Windmill lane and Bellhouse road, opposite the Endowed Free School and the cottages which stood on the site of the later CoOp furniture store. [The school building and master's house are still there but you can't see them from Bellhouse road].

All I could ever find for the meaning of pismire was that it was an old dialect term for ant..... so Ant Hill ? :)

If Bellhouse road used to be anything different it was probably Common road, which is how it is labelled from Shirgreen down to Hartley Brook on the 1855 map.

"pissmice" are ants, so it could come from that.

"Ecclesall" is actually a remnant of the old Celtic people - it means "eagles' hall" apparently. And "Wales" will have originated because a lot of Celtic people lived around there - in early Saxon times, Celts were all known as "Welshmen" even if they were hundreds of miles from Wales!

Dorothy, Garry and Lennox roads in Hillsborough were named after a local landowners kids i think.

dorothy and lennox is named after people but garry was named after their pet dog i looked this up in the book

Good bump, this is an interesting thread!


"Ecclesall" is actually a remnant of the old Celtic people - it means "eagles' hall" apparently. And "Wales" will have originated because a lot of Celtic people lived around there - in early Saxon times, Celts were all known as "Welshmen" even if they were hundreds of miles from Wales!

'Eccles' is an old english word meaning church. Not sure about the 'all'. Maybe shortened from hall. :confused:source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eccles,_Greater_Manchester)

Anybody got any ideas on the origin of the name Campo Lane? Campo is straight Spanish for country or even field. Henceforth 'country lane' or 'field lane.

There's something written about Campo Lane here. post #4 (http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=4461), though not sure about the football bit. Didn't think footy was played that long ago. :confused: Quite interesting all the same.

Southerners pronounce it (wrongly) arunDEL, with the emphasis on the del.But then, they would wouldn't they.
price

Incorrectly.


Bessemer Rd, Attercliffe.

If you google "Bessemer" you'll get lots of info on steel and it's history, with emphasis on the converter. A method used for converting pig iron to steel.

There's something written about Campo Lane here. post #4 (http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=4461), though not sure about the football bit. Didn't think footy was played that long ago. :confused: Quite interesting all the same.
I had a look at the history site as you suggested and also a Latin dictionary. The nearest I could get in the dictionary was 'Campus', meaning a plain, sports field, any level surface, and as Spanish is strongly influenced by Latin, seems about right.

Sharrard Rd was named after Albert Sharrard a partner in cutlery manufacturers Sharrard & Hydes.
Hi, I was wondering if anyone had any more information about Sharrard & Hydes. In the course of researching my family tree, I've found that Albert Sharrard was my great-grandfather. Family legend had already told me that Sharrard Road was named after my great-grandfather, but it's taken me some time to find out anything more about him!

Sicey Avenue was named after Sicey Ellis, a resident of Shiregreen before the estates were built. I once worked for his son, Jim Ellis who had a TV shop on Sharrow Vale Road.

"gate is indeed from the norse word "gata" meaning "street"
Wain gate, far gate....

(in York there is the delightfully named "whipma-whopma gate"! lol lol lol)

The viking influence is not far away from us, here, in words like "riding" -
we are in the west riding, or "thirding" of Yorkshire (from the divisions of our shire, in the Danelaw) and the word "thorpe"- or "torpa" which is norse for farmstead, eg "jorda's Thorpe" or Jorda's farm, or Hackenthorpe - "Haake's" or "haaken's" thorpe.


I will accept your correction Greybeard on "owlerton". :)
PT


In York,
The streets are gates
The gates are bars
and the bars are pubs!!